Wojnarowski: Jefferson eyes Knicks, Nets

[ohmwrecker]

why? Because you put it out there that you 'could be wrong' and actually were?

No, because I said myself that I could be wrong and you felt it necessary to point it out again.

[franceout]

sign tmac with LLE, could be a steal.

[Das Texan]

Richard Jefferson doesn’t have a deal with the San Antonio Spurs and would prefer to return to the New York area to play for the Knicks or Nets, league sources told Y! Sports.

Jefferson is seeking a multiyear contract that averages in the range of $8 million-$10 million, sources said. He opted out of the $15 million final season of his contract with the Spurs on Tuesday.

Jefferson has built a good relationship with Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, but doesn’t think the team’s system best fits his skills.

The Spurs could still try to sign Jefferson to a contract that lowers their luxury-tax hit, depending on what other options they find in free agency.

– Adrian Wojnarowski, 4:20 p.m. ET, July 1

http://tinyurl.com/34uvljx

so much for what TPark said.

[Brazil]

Thanks DPG and objective ! now that's clear

[lurker23]

So, the trade exception is more of a long-term benefit? How exactly could the Spurs use that as an immediate help?

If the Spurs got, say, an $8 million TE, they could trade for a player making $1-8 million this year without really giving anything up. The other team would do this for financial reasons.

[jiggy_55]

They have money. FAs will go where the money is to get paid. This shouldn't be a hard concept to understand.

My question is about a sign and trade, you didn't address that. Why would they help the Spurs? As we both agree, they have money. They don't need a sign and trade. They can probably sign RJ to a big contract since I don't see any of the major FA's heading there (doesn't look they'll be getting anyone that significant right now), while also keeping their own players. The Knicks have no incentive to throw in someone unless they can actually get some big time FA.

As for the Nets, their big time players for Lebron and nothing will happen there for RJ until LBJ makes his decision.

[clubalien]

So, the trade exception is more of a long-term benefit? How exactly could the Spurs use that as an immediate help?

it lets us trade with people that don
t have cap space and don't want rj.

lets say we sign and trade rj and get an exemption. we then can trade with lakers for ron artest. we didn;t give them anything besides an exemption and we then can have our new starting player.

sjax or anyone else if a team wants to trade with us.

[ohmwrecker]

If the Spurs got, say, an $8 million TE, they could trade for a player making $1-8 million this year without really giving anything up. The other team would do this for financial reasons.

Righto. Thanks for clarifying that without being condescending.

So, it's like a placeholder, for lack of a better term.

[Seventyniner]

My question is about a sign and trade, you didn't address that. Why would they help the Spurs? As we both agree, they have money. They don't need a sign and trade. They can probably sign RJ to a big contract since I don't see any of the major FA's heading there (doesn't look they'll be getting anyone that significant right now), while also keeping their own players. The Knicks have no incentive to throw in someone unless they can actually get some big time FA.

As for the Nets, their big time players for Lebron and nothing will happen there for RJ until LBJ makes his decision.

Bruno already explained this: the Spurs can give bigger raises than any other team, so RJ could get the same money starting with a smaller salary, saving the Nets or Knicks valuable cap space.

[Bruno]

Lebron needs to make his choice quickly. I'm sure he's thrilled to be the center of attention but he is freezing the whole free agency. Nets won't consider adding RJ as long as they think they have a shot at Lebron.

[objective]

No, because I said myself that I could be wrong and you felt it necessary to point it out again.

I wasn't 'pointing it out again', the other post hadn't been put up with the cap faq quote when I was writing my post.

You were operating under a misconception. I was letting you know that, no need to be so sensitive.

[lurker23]

Not that Spurs fans should expect anything this lucrative, but here's an example of trade exceptions at work:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2943588

SEATTLE -- The Seattle SuperSonics acquired veteran forward Kurt Thomas and the Phoenix Suns' first-round draft choices in 2008 and 2010 on Friday in exchange for a conditional second-round draft choice.

Seattle also sent Phoenix its $8 million trade exception to complete the deal. The Sonics gained the exception from Orlando earlier this month when they completed a sign-and-trade deal that sent Rashard Lewis to the Magic.

[smrattler]

My question is about a sign and trade, you didn't address that. Why would they help the Spurs? As we both agree, they have money. They don't need a sign and trade. They can probably sign RJ to a big contract since I don't see any of the major FA's heading there (doesn't look they'll be getting anyone that significant right now), while also keeping their own players. The Knicks have no incentive to throw in someone unless they can actually get some big time FA.

For their own good, to get rid of players that might become redundent or they're trying to get rid of anyway (bad contracts?). IDK...

[jiggy_55]

Bruno already explained this: the Spurs can give bigger raises than any other team, so RJ could get the same money starting with a smaller salary, saving the Nets or Knicks valuable cap space.

Thanks for clarifying that.

[Das Texan]

wont purposely over the Spurs.


He will go in a S&T if he signs for anything over the mid level.


Win/win for everyone. He gets more coin, Spurs get the ability to use that salary slot still.

[Mel_13]

So, the trade exception is more of a long-term benefit? How exactly could the Spurs use that as an immediate help?

Trade exceptions are valid for up to 365 days after the trade. So it could be used right away or kept for later in the season or even after the season.

Main rule is that the salary of a player acquired with a TE must fit into the amount of the TE plus 100K.

So, if the Spurs get a 6.1M TE in an RJ trade, they can acquire a player from another team whose 2010-11 salary is no more than 6.2M.

Spurs would try to find players that may not be wanted by their current team because of salary or fit or both. That 6.1M TE could get you Mo Petersen (6.2M), but not James Posey (6.5M), for example.

You also can't combine two smaller TEs to get one higher priced player.

[objective]

So, the trade exception is more of a long-term benefit? How exactly could the Spurs use that as an immediate help?

it can be traded for a long term contract, but the exception itself expires after a term of 12 months.

[ohmwrecker]

I wasn't 'pointing it out again', the other post hadn't been put up with the cap faq quote when I was writing my post.

You were operating under a misconception. I was letting you know that, no need to be so sensitive.

You didn't need to say it at all. It was redundant.

I got my question answered without the condescending bull , but thanks anyway.

[lurker23]

Lebron needs to make his choice quickly. I'm sure he's thrilled to be the center of attention but he is freezing the whole free agency. Nets won't consider adding RJ as long as they think they have a shot at Lebron.

As an aside, I'm sure Spurs fans and the Spurs front office thought they would avoid the excitement and/or mayhem that is the "Summer of LeBron." We thought the most interesting thing would be Tiago Splitter's decision. Now we're just as caught up in it as the teams with cap space. I'm not particularly happy about it, but at least it gives us something to talk about.

[slick'81]

god i just want this to all end tonight lol

[Fpoonsie]

You didn't need to say it at all. It was redundant.

I got my question answered without the condescending bull , but thanks anyway.

Wow.

For the sake of your vagina, don't EVER visit the NBA forum.

[ohmwrecker]

Wow.

For the sake of your vagina, don't EVER visit the NBA forum.

What?! Who the are you? I'm not upset at all. Just trying to have a conversation.

[jiggy_55]

McDonald:

http://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/17525528799

Just posted to mysa.com. No deal yet, but Jefferson's return to #spurs looking imminent. http://bit.ly/agdsAq

[Mel_13]

McDonald:

http://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/17525528799

Just posted to mysa.com. No deal yet, but Jefferson's return to #spurs looking imminent. http://bit.ly/agdsAq

If true, it would be the first time Mac was right and Woj was wrong about something Spurs-related.

Whiplash is starting to set in.

[lurker23]

McDonald:

http://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/17525528799

Just posted to mysa.com. No deal yet, but Jefferson's return to #spurs looking imminent. http://bit.ly/agdsAq

"One unconfirmed report Thursday had Jefferson poised to sign a three-year, $30 million with the Spurs. Another had the terms at five years for $45 million, with the final season likely only partially guaranteed."