So, colored people can't be racist?

[fraga]

Yes, so can everyone stop trying to pin this on Fox news?

Have you seen all the coverage Fox News gave this "edited" video...how they were so outraged and shocked over this admission of an outspoken racist in the administration...almost every bit of crap reporting they were doing was either misleading or flat out un true...I wish people would come to the realization that this network is nothing more than the National Enquirer televised...rather than actual news where reporters actually report factual events...

[DarrinS]

Sucks when the "racism" charge is so loosely and carelessly thrown about, often as a weapon to smear a political opponent, and, in some cases, ending a person's career. The accusation is so potent, that those accused are somewhat defenseless, even in many cases were the evidence is nonexistent or sketchy. When the race card is played, it's not the weight of the evidence that important, but the seriousness of the charge.

Perhaps it will be played with more care from now on? Somehow, I doubt it.

It has been learned recently that members of the listserv "journolist" actively conspired to bury the Jeremiah Wright story AND planned to blast conservatives with charges of racism.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/2...es-as-racists/

And I think this threads the needle. If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.

[MannyIsGod]

Manufacture a false belief (that only whites can be racist) to feign outrage.

Political Hack Methods 101.

[DarrinS]

Manufacture a false belief (that only whites can be racist).

Who believes that?

[spursncowboys]

Three main choices: librarian, guest, custodian.

guest?

[Wild Cobra]

Why do you have to specifically state "blacks," why not people in general? Or do you feel white people already understand what she's trying to say and "blacks" actually gotta open their ears?

She acknowledged that poverty and problems were not a racial issue, but a class issue. However, she was talking to a black audience and told them it was up to them to make things better. I will agree the population in general is served with her words of wisdom. However, it is primarily blacks who need her encouragement. To know there is a better future if you seek higher goals.

An allusion to baseball? You think "blacks" absorb information better when its placed in the context of a sports? Regardless of where the quote came from, you attached your own thoughts to it. I don't think you'd say the same thing to white folks, considering how easily you seperated Sherrod's words as helpful to blacks if they'd only listen.

It appears you didn't watch the whole thing. I quoted her reference, and added the future part. Those were her words. So you must then ask, does she think "blacks" absorb information better when its placed in the context of a sports?

[Wild Cobra]

guest?

Could just work next door.

[George Gervin's Afro]

She acknowledged that poverty and problems were not a racial issue, but a class issue. However, she was talking to a black audience and told them it was up to them to make things better. I will agree the population in general is served with her words of wisdom. However, it is primarily blacks who need her encouragement. To know there is a better future if you seek higher goals.

It appears you didn't watch the whole thing. I quoted her reference, and added the future part. Those were her words. So you must then ask, does she think "blacks" absorb information better when its placed in the context of a sports?

Wild Cobra-What I see today is that most blacks are racists, and almost no whites are.

[Wild Cobra]

George, you seem to imply that because I recognize statistical reality, I am a racist. Is that your point?

[Supergirl]

In answer to the initial question in this thread: By definition, yes.

Racism=power + prejudice . As in, in order to be "Racist" you have to have be of some privileged class (in this case, white skin) and have prejudicial thoughts about other people. This is Oppression Theory, which came out of the feminist movement of understanding oppression. The same formula can be applied to other privileged classe in this country - economic class, being heterosexual, being Christian, being male.

Thus, a person cannot be "racist" if they lack power and privilege. BUT this does not mean they cannot be prejudiced. We are ALL prejudiced, in some way or another.

[DarrinS]

The NAACP started this crap with their stupid resolution for the Tea Party to rid themselves of racists. What's that old saying about people in glass houses?

Other than busying themselves with idiocy like this and finding phantom racism in Hallmark greeting cards, what exactly does the NAACP do?

[DarrinS]

In answer to the initial question in this thread: By definition, yes.

Racism=power + prejudice . As in, in order to be "Racist" you have to have be of some privileged class (in this case, white skin) and have prejudicial thoughts about other people. This is Oppression Theory, which came out of the feminist movement of understanding oppression. The same formula can be applied to other privileged classe in this country - economic class, being heterosexual, being Christian, being male.

Thus, a person cannot be "racist" if they lack power and privilege. BUT this does not mean they cannot be prejudiced. We are ALL prejudiced, in some way or another.

So, by your definition, that woman is a racist. She has power and prejudice.

[Wild Cobra]

In answer to the initial question in this thread: By definition, yes.

Racism=power + prejudice . As in, in order to be "Racist" you have to have be of some privileged class (in this case, white skin) and have prejudicial thoughts about other people. This is Oppression Theory, which came out of the feminist movement of understanding oppression. The same formula can be applied to other privileged classe in this country - economic class, being heterosexual, being Christian, being male.

Thus, a person cannot be "racist" if they lack power and privilege. BUT this does not mean they cannot be prejudiced. We are ALL prejudiced, in some way or another.

OMG....

You are so wrong!

Racism is the belief that the genetic factors which cons ute race are a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

It has nothing to do with power, money, etc. It is a form of bigotry.

[CuckingFunt]

OMG....

You are so wrong!


It has nothing to do with power, money, etc. It is a form of bigotry.

As I pointed out in a post yesterday, it's an issue of semantics. The use of "racism" as a term to refer specifically to people/actions within the privileged group comes from specific feminist theories that delineate between racism and prejudice.

It's a model not limited to issues of race, either, as it operates similarly to the difference in feminist theory between heterosexism and phobia.

[Wild Cobra]

The NAACP started this crap with their stupid resolution for the Tea Party to rid themselves of racists. What's that old saying about people in glass houses?

Other than busying themselves with idiocy like this and finding phantom racism in Hallmark greeting cards, what exactly does the NAACP do?

So true, then people wonder what a speaker at a NAACP function becomes a target...

[Wild Cobra]

As I pointed out in a post yesterday, it's an issue of semantics. The use of "racism" as a term to refer specifically to people/actions within the privileged group comes from specific feminist theories that delineate between racism and prejudice.

It's a model not limited to issues of race, either, as it operates similarly to the difference in feminist theory between heterosexism and phobia.

A square is a rectangle, a rectangle is not a square.

Racism is bigotry, bigotry is not racism.

[George Gervin's Afro]

As I pointed out in a post yesterday, it's an issue of semantics. The use of "racism" as a term to refer specifically to people/actions within the privileged group comes from specific feminist theories that delineate between racism and prejudice.

It's a model not limited to issues of race, either, as it operates similarly to the difference in feminist theory between heterosexism and phobia.

You are dealing with people who lack critical thinking skills..

[TeyshaBlue]

You are dealing with people who lack critical thinking skills..

Classically, CF is on point. Colloquially, it's a different ballgame. There's been some creep in the meaning over the decades.

[CosmicCowboy]

You guys REALLY think the NAACP came up with this tea party racism on their own? This was orchestrated by the White House/DNC as a November 2010 talking point.

Middle America scares the out of the Democrats.

[ChumpDumper]

George, you seem to imply that because I recognize statistical reality, I am a racist. Is that your point?

His point is because you make up bull and call it a statistic, you are an idiot.

[CuckingFunt]

Classically, CF is on point. Colloquially, it's a different ballgame. There's been some creep in the meaning over the decades.

Oh, no doubt. It's an argument/definition based on a specific movement within feminist theory and not necessarily in line with everyone's understanding of the terms. Unless someone spent a lot of time reading intersectional feminist literature, I wouldn't expect them to have a working understanding of the theory or its implications.

My only goal in this thread has been to point out that when people make the argument that people of color are incapable of being racist, it's because of an established argument/definition within feminist theory. It is NOT a suggestion that people of color are wholly incapable of harboring personal prejudices.

[CuckingFunt]

You guys REALLY think the NAACP came up with this tea party racism on their own? This was orchestrated by the White House/DNC as a November 2010 talking point.

Middle America scares the out of the Democrats.

I don't think the tea party's association with racism needed the NAACP or the "mainstream media" or anything else to develop. After an election in which much of the resistance against Obama was based in secret Muslim associations and secret Kenyan origins, and in which people regularly showed up at rallies with Curious George memorabilia, and an early presidency in which we saw widely circulated photoshopped images of the White House with watermelons growing in the front yard and Obama decked out as an African medicine man...

I personally think it's foolish to label the entire tea party movement as being motivated by issues of race, or to suggest that all of its members are necessarily racist/prejudiced, but to ignore the fact that some of the anti-Obama sentiment is motivated by race would be equally foolish.

[jack sommerset]

I don't think the tea party's association with racism needed the NAACP or the "mainstream media" or anything else to develop. After an election in which much of the resistance against Obama was based in secret Muslim associations and secret Kenyan origins, and in which people regularly showed up at rallies with Curious George memorabilia, and an early presidency in which we saw widely circulated photoshopped images of the White House with watermelons growing in the front yard and Obama decked out as an African medicine man...

I personally think it's foolish to label the entire tea party movement as being motivated by issues of race, or to suggest that all of its members are necessarily racist/prejudiced, but to ignore the fact that some of the anti-Obama sentiment is motivated by race would be equally foolish.

Jesus Christ, you think the tea party people are racist too, for the most part. A few bad seeds and you spring out with watermelons, monkey references, birthers and secret societies to simply say its foolish to label the entire tea party movement racist.

[CuckingFunt]

Jesus Christ, you think the tea party people are racist too, for the most part. A few bad seeds and you spring out with watermelons, monkey references, birthers and secret societies to simply say its foolish to label the entire tea party movement racist.

Not quite, but nice try.

[Stringer_Bell]

It appears you didn't watch the whole thing. I quoted her reference, and added the future part. Those were her words. So you must then ask, does she think "blacks" absorb information better when its placed in the context of a sports?

AHA! I knew you'd use that excuse so I mentioned that you attached your own thoughts to her quote. You expanded upon it with your own words in a way you want blacks (not people in general, but blacks) to hear it.

Also, to the Faux News haters, this is one case that you can't pin on them. I saw it everywhere but with them and everyone was freaked out by her comments. If Fuax is guilty of anything, it's not showing the "really good parts" of the full video, but that's after the fact and should be expected.