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I was hoping you had found an alternative to flouride that was as effective at fighting cavities.
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I was hoping you had found an alternative to flouride that was as effective at fighting cavities.
http://www.thatsfit.ca/2010/09/13/fl...c2_lnk1|170350
Why Fluoride Should Be Banned From Our Drinking Water
by Doug DiPasquale Sep 13th 2010 9:00AM
Categories: Friends & Family, Health
I woke up to some good news today, when I saw the headline "Green Party of Canada calls for ban on the fluoridation chemicals hexafluorosilicic acid and sodium silicofluoride." It seems that, like me, the Green Party isn't happy with the fact that we indiscriminately pump fluoride into our water supply and wants it banned at the federal level. Go Green Party!
Fluoride has been added to our water supply for the last 60 years, supposedly for the benefit of our teeth. It is widely believed that adding fluoride to the drinking water will help to prevent dental caries (cavities). However, the 1999 Centers For Disease Control study widely cited as justification for the fluoridation of the water supply only looked at topical applications of fluoride in the form of toothpastes and dental fluoride treatments, not ingested fluoride.
The Green Party's reasons for banning fluoride in tap water are mainly environmental, citing the fact that the fluoride chemicals put into our drinking water are actually toxic by-products scrubbed from the smokestacks of the phosphate mining industry. Also, 99% of this fluoridated water ends up being discharged back into the environment, because none of the processes used to treat sewage water can remove fluoride.
The environmental impact is extremely important, for sure, but I come at the issue from the perspective of how fluoridation immediately affects our health. In 2006, a distinguished panel appointed by the National Research Council of the National Academies published a 500 page report about the effects of excessive fluoride ingestion. Their conclusion was that the standard set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) of 0.4 parts per million is unsafe and causing "increased risk of bone fractures, decreased thyroid function, lowered IQ, arthritic-like conditions, dental fluorosis and, possibly, osteosarcoma." Toronto, as an example, currently fortifies their water to 0.6 ppm.
Ethically speaking, even if fluoridation of the water supply worked the way we're told it does (preventing tooth decay), we're being delivered unregulated, unapproved medication via the water supply without our consent. This is completely unethical. Never mind that the daily dose of medications delivered in this way can't be regulated and the effects of fluoridation on the population are not being monitored -- even more importantly, our rights are being infringed upon by our inability to opt out. Fluoride is actually quite difficult to remove from water, requiring expensive reverse osmosis filter systems or distillation. Yet the cost of these systems is not subsidized for those who don't wish to ingest excessive fluoride.
Lets face it, the fluoridation of our water supply has always been a sneaky means for industry to get rid of a toxic by-product. It has never been about the health of the public's teeth. Keep in mind that the effectiveness of fluoride in drinking water for preventing cavities has *never* been demonstrated, it has only been assumed effective given the effectiveness of topical fluoride treatments. Fluoride works to reduce tooth decay from the exterior of the tooth, not systemically from inside the body. It simply makes no sense to drink it. Fluoride toothpastes are cheap and widely available. This is a viable strategy for getting fluoride for dental health, if one chooses, not by exposing the rest of the body to the risks involved in fluoride ingestion.
Ironically, epidemiological evidence largely indicates water fluoridation to be detrimental to the health of the teeth. Excess fluoride in the diet can actually lead to a condition known as dental fluorosis, where brown discolouration of the teeth with white spotting occurs. A 2007 report by the CDC stated that 41 percent of children aged 12-15 now have some form of fluorosis, whereas 36 percent of children 16-19 have fluorosis. While this effect is largely cosmetic, it still brings the wisdom of fluoride supplementation into question.
Fluoride isn't even an essential nutrient, according to the National Academy of Sciences, meaning no human disease, including tooth decay, can ever result from a fluoride deficiency. The human body needs no fluoride in order to function at its optimum. The same cannot be said for true nutrients like calcium or magnesium, for instance.
Take a look at the ample information on the Fluoride Action Network's site to see the multiple, well-reasoned arguments against water fluoridation. We've been scammed on this from the very beginning. Hopefully the Green Party can make water fluoridation in Canada a thing of the past.
Had me for a second with the NAP's Flouride Studies book, but lost me there.Lets face it, the fluoridation of our water supply has always been a sneaky means for industry to get rid of a toxic by-product.
http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question01.html
The chemicals used to fluoridate 90% of public drinking water are industrial grade hazardous wastes captured in the air pollution-control scrubber systems of the phosphate fertilizer industry, called silicofluorides. ("Fluorine Recovery in the Fertilizer Industry - A Review," Phosphorus & Potassium, No. 103, Sept/Oct 1979.) (Also, see 1-1: "Fluoridation: A Mandate to Dump Toxic Waste in the Name of Public Health", George Glasser, Journalist, St. Petersburg, FL, July 22, 1995.)
How about we just ban forms of fluoride that are not sodium fluoride.
I think that would be a fine idea, but it defeats the point. It doesnt cut costs for industry.
I don't really want to go digging around for it because I really don't have the same level of concern about flouride as you...
but you really couldn't quote sources any more recent that 1979 and 1995?
actually, more recent info points to chinese sources, but I'm not interested in doing the research just this minute
huh....
the Chinese have interesting priorities.
who can really ever certify the quality of Chinese products? Lies Lies Lies
anybody watch the vid?
that vid is worth the watch.
Why don't you just put it in a nuts for people who haven't watched it yet? That'd be so much faster than waiting for all of us to watch it.
Don't hoard the knowledge, bro.
local news report from the east coast, confirming that Chinese Flouride is being dumped into the water. Local Public Works employee is concerned because much of what they are dispensing is non-water soluble; he doesnt know whats in the product. Its clogging up the equipment, and they have halted the process. They then give a brief overview of recent chinese products that have been found to be toxic.
There is some discussion of the fact that the chinese products get the contracts because they are offering the cheapest product.
Still think this crap isnt industrial waste?
If I hadn't been drinking tap water steady in Texas my whole life, without any obvious ill effects yet, I might be a little more receptive to what you're saying.
You could turn out to be right, but the tap water ain't ed me up yet that I know of.
Sure was stinky on SPI, tho. Corpus and Port Aransas, too.
In retrospect, the SA tap water was actually pretty good, but I ain't lived there for 25ish years. Been in Austin. What's it like in SanAnto now?
My kids won't drink SA water. It stinks and tastes, so when they visit, I've gotta buy bottled water.
Municipal water is just another aspect of how ed America is, and taxpayers won't pay to fix it. They'd rather pay 10,000 times more for bottled water than have municipal clean, taste free, odor free, x-cide free, pharmaceutical-free. But much of bottled water is municipal water.
It really bothers me that some communities are stupid enough to buy fluoride from China, especially after all the contamination issues we have seen to date. Still, Fluoride is used in such small quan ies that I don't see a too much a risk that the small amounts of contaminates in the fluoride could have.
Still, I'm going to contact our local water bureau and quiz them a bit.
Are you sure?
maybe that's why you are like you are?
Do you know how expensive it is to purify the natural area waters of some places? Oklahoma water is very nasty and must be the nastiest water I ever tasted. TX and OK are competing all the time. Who has the worse water?My kids won't drink SA water. It stinks and tastes, so when they visit, I've gotta buy bottled water.
Municipal water is just another aspect of how ed America is, and taxpayers won't pay to fix it. They'd rather pay 10,000 times more for bottled water than have municipal clean, taste free, odor free, x-cide free, pharmaceutical-free. But much of bottled water is municipal water.
I drink tap water here in Portland. We have some of the best water in the world here. One reason i cannot stand living other places. I'm so spoiled on one of life's most basic necessities.
WH: the flouridation varies, many communities still dont do it, some stopped, some just started. I think SA just started recently, they actually just approved it before Toyata came to town. Whowouldathunkit. Chromedreams.
Also, the flouride is supposedly odorless/tasteless. I can tell you that I am not picky when it comes to water, and have drank it all my life, but that since we moved to North Austin I stopped drinking the tap water because of the chemical after tase, and the fact that it wont quench my thirst.
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