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    War/defense/security is an element of the fiasco, but it is just an element. It doesn't carry all the freight you want it to, still less does it carry your argument over the finish line.

    ALL CAPS don't lend any credence to your exaggeration either. Sorry.

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    War/defense/security is an element of the fiasco, but it is just an element. It doesn't carry all the freight you want it to, still less does it carry your argument over the finish line.

    ALL CAPS don't lend any credence to your exaggeration either. Sorry.
    that argument/all caps is aimed at the last bastion of big spending...the conservative right.


    I dont address the far left or those who believe that we can still afford big spending on social programs. THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL FOR THAT PURPOSE. The grim outlook and shaky consumer confidence will take care of that.

    I address those that still think the disasterous spending is necessary to protect our shores. If thats not you then dont concern yourself with my choice of case.

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    the countries debt problems were already in place before the irag war
    to say irag war caused the debt problem sorely is stupid and retarted

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    the countries debt problems were already in place before the irag war
    to say irag war caused the debt problem sorely is stupid and retarted
    this is the longest war in US history. its cost will stretch lpong after our boys come home. but that is never going to happen...occupation will follow.

    you dont fully understand the costs and causes of our imperialistic policies ducks, nor the implications.

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    that argument/all caps is aimed at the last bastion of big spending...the conservative right.
    Uh, bull .

    I dont address the far left or those who believe that we can still afford big spending on social programs. THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL FOR THAT PURPOSE. The grim outlook and shaky consumer confidence will take care of that.
    Naive. The public won't sit still for cuts in services, and politicians don't have the guts to make them. The social pain will be enormous, as will be the political backlash. Nothing about it will be easy, much less occur automatically, as you seem to suggest.

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    Uh, bull .

    Naive. The public won't sit still for cuts in services, and politicians don't have the guts to make them. The social pain will be enormous, as will be the political backlash. Nothing about it will be easy, much less occur automatically, as you seem to suggest.
    on the re-read, bull is correct...I would like to add "last bastion that I want to take digs at..."

    regardless, as you can see, I play fair, and I like those that play fair. and I hate bigots and neocons. everyone else is cool by me.

    I call strikes and balls winehole. if you dont know anything else about me, know that.

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