View Poll Results: Who would you rather build around?

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  • Deron Williams

    48 76.19%
  • Chris Paul

    15 23.81%
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  1. #126
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    Yeah, the Hornets should trade their franchise player because a rookie had a good season. Who cares about selling tickets? Who cares about winning now? If only they kept Collison, they'd be set for the future.

    And 10 assists per game are more than 9 assists per game by one assist, not .2. Oh, you're talking about this season--the one in which Paul was injured for the majority and still managed to play better when in the few games he did play. Got you.
    Per BSPN:

    CP3 = 10.7 assists per game
    Deron = 10.5 assists per game

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    You were saying? Now who gives a about franchise player if he is disgruntled. He wants to leave. I say get something for him now since y'all ain't winning jack for the next few years anyway.

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    Per BSPN:

    CP3 = 10.7 assists per game
    Deron = 10.5 assists per game

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    You were saying? Now who gives a about franchise player if he is disgruntled. He wants to leave. I say get something for him now since y'all ain't winning jack for the next few years anyway.
    Read the second to last sentence of the post that you just quoted.

    Derp.

  3. #128
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    Read the second to last sentence of the post that you just quoted.

    Derp.
    Name calling eh? I just shot a hole in your bull ass argument, linked where I got my facts, and all you can do is call me names? . Just stick to the topic at hand internet tough guy. CP3 has more autonomy with the ball in his hand and still averages only 0.2 assists than DWill. DWill (or any PG with size) kicks his ass on the regular. Give me DWill over this nut-puncher any day. DWill is more durable as well and is tough as nails because he plays for Sloan. There is nothing that CP3 can do that DWill can't do better. Period.

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    Name calling eh? I just shot a hole in your bull ass argument, linked where I got my facts, and all you can do is call me names? . Just stick to the topic at hand internet tough guy. CP3 has more autonomy with the ball in his hand and still averages only 0.2 assists than DWill. DWill (or any PG with size) kicks his ass on the regular. Give me DWill over this nut-puncher any day. DWill is more durable as well and is tough as nails because he plays for Sloan. There is nothing that CP3 can do that DWill can't do better. Period.
    son WTF are you talking about? Paul averages over 1 more assist than Williams (not 0.2). where are you getting your ridiculous information from? your ass?

  5. #130
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    son WTF are you talking about? Paul averages over 1 more assist than Williams (not 0.2). where are you getting your ridiculous information from? your ass?
    LINK <-- Click here, if you dare.

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    I just looked it up. CP3 is a pathetic 3-11 against DWill. Including loosing the last 5 straight.

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    There is nothing that CP3 can do that DWill can't do better. Period.
    Well, besides scoring, passing, shooting, rebounding, stealing and holding on to the ball, you're right.

    at you punching a hole in my argument. You think you got me even though I addressed this season in the post you quoted.

  8. #133
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    I just looked it up. CP3 is a pathetic 3-11 against DWill. Including loosing the last 5 straight.

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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...001040UTA.html

    What a re !

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    - hey don't shoot the messenger!
    You're a pretty ty messenger if you can't even get your information straight. The last time Paul and Williams met, Paul won. In fact, Paul stole one of Williams' passes and sealed the deal.


  11. #136
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    You're a pretty ty messenger if you can't even get your information straight. The last time Paul and Williams met, Paul won. In fact, Paul stole one of Williams' passes and sealed the deal.

    I may be a ty messenger, but CP3 will be watching at least the 2nd round of the playoffs this year - just like me. That has to make you and CP3 feel pretty ty.

  12. #137
    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    cp3 5-15 and 9 ast

    deron 6-11 and 11 ast

    great ing point guard

  13. #138
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    Post their career playoff averages.



    1. Answer my question about head-to-head first.


    I did. Apparently you can't read. How does head to head NOT matter whent hey play the same FREAKING position?
    Okay, I see how it is. Paul takes the defending champs to seven games but he chokes. Williams gets to the WCF and loses to the same team in five but doesn't choke.

    3-2 lead with game 7 at home is a choke ...many on here ALSO point out the Pargo thing ...but i dont believe that indicts Paul ...others do.

    Your logic is astounding. Thank you

    Also, if go right ahead and post the Williams' game five stats against the Spurs compared to Paul's game seven stats, if you want to talk about choking.
    I asked you to compare common opponent playoff stats and head to head stats. That's it. You have failed or unwilling to do so.

    I'm not a stat junkie ... I admit it. And maybe that i swhy I feel the way I do.

    I tend to weigh playoff success and head2head MORE than overall success BECAUSE as a compe or that is what matters. silly me!!!

    Regular season success is IMPORTANT but playoff means much more ...you have better defense, slower tempo and more time for opponents to prepare.

    Paul had a great series against the Mavs and a great first 2 games against the Spurs ...after that I have seen Paul lose 4 out of 5 aginst the spurs amd Nuggs and fail miserably on some nights in doing so ...

    Dude has lost 8 of his last 10 playoff games ...

    AND despite that late win against Utah is still WAYYYY behind head2 head ..

    Great players are defined by playoff success if Paul is one (and i think he is) he needs to do better there and against Dwill to get the #1 spot

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    cp3 5-15 and 9 ast

    deron 6-11 and 11 ast

    great ing point guard
    Oh, so we're looking at stats now? I guess stats only matter in 4 out of 82 games.

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    Dryer than Kunta's ankles Ashy Larry's Avatar
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    Williams

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    Chris Paul is the better player. I'd take Deron just because I like him more.

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    Yeah, Chris Paul does act like a petulant child when he's on the court.

  18. #143
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    And Kobe doesn't act like a child, too? Be honest, Kobe cries foul after half of his shots.

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    Please. Kobe deserves to with the amount he gets screwed by the officials these days. When was the last time a player like Robin got 0-2 free throws in a playoff game?


  20. #145
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    no response to the best PG losing 8 of his last 10 playoff games ...

    I'm guesin the same logic was used by morons that said TMAC was better than Kobe and amare is better than Duncan?

    Amare has a great FG%, better scoring average a better mid-range jumper he is better? Yeah, right.

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    CP3 is the better player so I'd take him

  22. #147
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    This whole debate is about two guys who have put up stats but haven't really won anything.

    D-Will - Bigger, higher vertical, better perimeter scorer, better shooter off the dribble, and better long-distance shooter

    CP3 - Quicker, better ball-handler, passer, vision, FT shooter, more steals, and finishes better in the paint (higher FG% in the paint)

    Defense is not a big difference. CP3 defends quicker guards better while D-Will defends bigger guards better.

  23. #148
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    This whole debate is about two guys who have put up stats but haven't really won anything.

    D-Will - Bigger, higher vertical, better perimeter scorer, better shooter off the dribble, and better long-distance shooter

    CP3 - Quicker, better ball-handler, passer, vision, FT shooter, more steals, and finishes better in the paint (higher FG% in the paint)

    Defense is not a big difference. CP3 defends quicker guards better while D-Will defends bigger guards better.
    That is pretty fair. Most unbiased post on the paul side. If healthy i think they are 1A and 1B and i have no issue if 1B is Dwill ...

  24. #149
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    cp3 5-15 and 9 ast

    deron 6-11 and 11 ast

    great ing point guard

  25. #150
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    2012... still Deron, now more than ever. Deron is straight-up nasty. CP3 is a flopping . I'm glad he never went to the right LA.

    I wonder if BRHornet's stance will change.
    Chris Paul > Deron Williams

    still absolutely no doubt about it

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