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    Actually, you made the selection. You quoted it upstream.

    I'm the one who didn't watch your youtube. I just judged your selection from it.

    If you can't tell me in your own words WTF you're talking about, your argument barely exists for me Parkay. I ain't gonna watch your bs youtubes. Your wisdom writing is overrated, and the only reason I have any confidence about that, is I'm slightly familiar with the one person who overrates it. If you can't fill in the blanks shut up and listen for a change. Your bs is weak.
    Why is it that everything posted is my argument?

    Thats your strawman to dismiss it. All day every day.

    Why cant you just shoot straight? If youre skeptical, call it.

    I looked up some info about the great depression, and was able to confirm a couple of cites. But actually, I found one cite that I think the film misrepresented, and in fact it was about the retraction of world currency in 07-08. It has made me a little skeptical.

    HOWEVER: I watched this film. I learned a good bit about the way the fed works. I learned about fractional reserve lending, and the proift potential for banks loaning to the govt. I learned about greenbacks and goldbugs and such. I reinforced my understanding about how boom/bust cycles can be manipulated, and how bankers can benefit from that manipulation. I gained a historical perspective of how European interests have been interested in our currency for centuries. And how several presidents who pushed for greenbacks and decentralized banking were killed or attempted to be.

    All that without having to buy the precis of the film.

    THE BENEFIT FROM WATCHING: When the argument is made to end the fed, I understand that take. I also understand the opposition, that says that the central bank allows security for our economy, and prevents runs and public panics.

    And if you ask me, the only person I've run across with any solid take on these matters is CC, so the rest of those that took time to involve themselves in the discourse might benefit from the film. And though evidently you know enough to dismiss the film you have never watched (your distinction of "Parker's take on the film" is dubious, when you get right down to it), I havent seen any insightful speak come from your direction.

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    Why is it that everything posted is my argument?
    You're mostly too wimpy to stake out a real position. You just throw on the wall and pretend to fence sit. It's incredibly lame.
    If youre skeptical, call it.
    Already did. I'm skeptical of you.
    I looked up some info about the great depression, and was able to confirm a couple of cites. But actually, I found one cite that I think the film misrepresented, and in fact it was about the retraction of world currency in 07-08. It has made me a little skeptical.
    Skeptical about your own emphasis. That's progress, I guess.
    HOWEVER: I watched this film. I learned a good bit about the way the fed works. I learned about fractional reserve lending, and the proift potential for banks loaning to the govt. I learned about greenbacks and goldbugs and such. I reinforced my understanding about how boom/bust cycles can be manipulated, and how bankers can benefit from that manipulation.
    You just fell off the fence, again.
    I gained a historical perspective of how European interests have been interested in our currency for centuries. And how several presidents who pushed for greenbacks and decentralized banking were killed or attempted to be.
    There's the lame bs again.
    All that without having to buy the precis of the film.
    Go fluff a LaRoucheite.
    THE BENEFIT FROM WATCHING: When the argument is made to end the fed, I understand that take. I also understand the opposition, that says that the central bank allows security for our economy, and prevents runs and public panics.
    More uber courageous fence sitting.
    And if you ask me, the only person I've run across with any solid take on these matters is CC, so the rest of those that took time to involve themselves in the discourse might benefit from the film.
    What it offers up, if your precis of it is accurate, is pretty hackneyed. Go blow a LaRoucheite if you think it's so great. I pass.
    And though evidently you know enough to dismiss the film you have never watched (your distinction of "Parker's take on the film" is dubious, when you get right down to it), I havent seen any insightful speak come from your direction.
    Insightful speak. Did you hit your head when you fell off the fence again?

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    You're mostly too wimpy to stake out a real position. You just throw on the wall and pretend to fence sit. It's incredibly lame.
    Already did. I'm skeptical of you.
    Skeptical about your own emphasis. That's progress, I guess.
    You just fell off the fence, again.
    There's the lame bs again.
    Go fluff a LaRoucheite.
    More uber courageous fence sitting.
    What it offers up, if your precis of it is accurate, is pretty hackneyed. Go blow a LaRoucheite if you think it's so great. I pass.
    Insightful speak. Did you hit your head when you fell off the fence again?
    I am skeptical as to whether you know a damn thing about the topic at all. Way to turn the whole issue into another personal attack. Its hard to believe youre still butthurt, WH....but then again I guess not.

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    my argument?

    Thats your strawman to dismiss it. All day every day.

    Why cant you just shoot straight?

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    (Overrated)
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    Your self-quotation only emphasizes the fail and fatuity again. You should quit while you're already behind, Parkay.

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    SOPHISTRY, n. The controversial method of an opponent, distinguished from one's own by superior insincerity and fooling. This method is that of the later Sophists, a Grecian sect of philosophers who began by teaching wisdom, prudence, science, art and, in brief, whatever men ought to know, but lost themselves in a maze of quibbles and a fog of words.

    His bad opponent's "facts" he sweeps away,
    And drags his sophistry to light of day;
    Then swears they're pushed to madness who resort

    To falsehood of so desperate a sort.
    Not so; like sods upon a dead man's breast,
    He lies most lightly who the least is pressed
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    —Polydore Smith
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    [Whatever the strawman, fill in blank here...]

    Why cant you just shoot straight? If youre skeptical, call it.

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    If you can't tell me in your own words WTF you're talking about, your argument....
    What argument? I referenced the film, synthesized the premise, and presented it for discussion.

    You attacked me personally.

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    I'm calling you a bull ter. I don't understand what's not straightforward about that.

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    You attacked me personally.
    You're hardly above picking on others and you can't take it?

    Wah.

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    I dont give a honestly...WH, I know when I post that has any tie toe Alex Jones, I all but guarantee personal attacks such as yours. If I gave a I wouldnt post it in the first place.

    But on this issue, the message is aligned with quite a few historical characters who stood against any centralized bank. And like many of those warnings explicitly point out, when we cease to understand the monetary system, that is when we will lose our democracy. And so we have. And the lack of insight on the currency...the absolute failure of several, including yourself, to discuss intelligently, makes me think that John Adams was right...

    John Adams
    All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Cons ution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.
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    I'm calling you a bull ter. I don't understand what's not straightforward about that.
    And I am saying you're incapable of intelligent debate on the topic. So 1+1=2, I guess we both call-em-as-we-see-em.

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    I'll put it this way, Parker. I'm slightly sympathetic to your cause but it behooves me to to assail your credibility and kill your thread. It's that important to me. You're a bad ambassador for the cause.

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    You have certainly killed it, dumbass.

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    I'm cool with that.

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