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"in the behind"?
this is a family forum, man.
Except, apparently against Manu and his 48 points. Joe J took it in the behind.He will be effective, but i don't think it will be as much on offense as on defense. he is one of the players that the suns have that can play decent defense.
"in the behind"?
this is a family forum, man.
i have to agree with Foodie, I like watching the Spurs shut teams down, and playing great D, and it was tough to see open lanes to the basket, no contested shots and the like.
Not many people like to watch the Spurs style of play. As shown in the Finals of a few years ago when the Nets and Spurs played.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that the lowest rated Finals series ever!
Of course you guys will prefer to see a defensive stalwart and chess match, that is what your team is great at.
We've gotten use to watching a team put up 100 plus points on a regular basis. It's fun to see teams just being able to cut loose and play.
Most analysts agree that the Suns and Mavericks series was two teams playing the game how it was designed to be. Fans love it and so do the players.
just think what the media will think if spurs vs pistons in finals
I'll take championship basketball over pretty ball anytime, Suns fan.
Of course, the rich part is that the Spurs bested the Suns at their own game yesterday...
You are right they did. No one can deny that. Nobody has.
the analysts.Most analysts agree that the Suns and Mavericks series was two teams playing the game how it was designed to be. Fans love it and so do the players
and what people THINK how the game should be played.
The game was meant to be played with defending your basket.
That simple.
The game was invented with intention of throwing a ball through a peach basket.
Not to stop a guy from throwing a ball threw peach basket.
I understand your take, but the fact is the NBA has been taking steps to create more offense. 24 second shot clock, hand check rule, 3 point shot, no jump ball after every score, etc. The list goes on.
Tpark, Lucious Harris did stick with the mask for the rest of the playoffs in 2001-2002 after he didn't need it. Then he got pissed off during the Lakers eries and threw it off, so yea, he did wear it when he didn't have to.
As for JJ, of course he would make a difference. He's an excellent jumpshooter from 3 and a good midrange shooter and is also very good at making little 10ft runners and floaters in the lane. He's good defensively, and can play some backup PG. He would essentially make the Sun's swingman/PG rotation Johnson/Jackson/Richardson/Nash which would take away all of Barbosa's playing time which is good for Phoenix.
I don't agree with those who say he would effectively bother TP for long stretches. When coaches put bigger players on TP to effect his game they are usually really long or really quick as well as being tall. Johnson has the height, but he isn't freakishly long and he isn't fast. His offensive moves dont rely on speed, more on evasive moves etc. He may bother TP for a little while as he adjusts to a taller opponent, but I can't see it being an ongoing problem for the Spurs.
JJ in mask=Winnie the Pooh
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"Not many people like to watch the Spurs style of play"
In your Suns homer-biased opinion.
As can be seen in the solid victories over Suns 3 times this season, the Spurs can score in the 120's with anybody in the league AND WIN, can hit 10+ 3Gs just like 3G-dependent teams like the Suns. And the Spurs can score in 80s AND WIN.
All the guards and SFs, even Tim, love to run the break, and do at every chance they get, with no resistance from Pop.
So STFU with your "Spurs are boring" BS.
What we don't have is the hip-hop ballas, balls styles, infantile hand-jive, thugs, the silly strutting and preening and pushups after a single play. You should notice that of the 4 Conference Finalists, only the Suns have the BS ballas behavior, while the other 3 teams are serious, professional teams.
There is no doubt that the Suns will not get past the WCF. Maybe in a couple years when they grow up (and find a true Big like all serious contenders and lists have had)
Tough luck for Joe Johson. I like him as player. I always prefer to beat the other team with no "*" attached. But if JJ had not hung theatrically, irresponsibly on the rim in balla style for the balla demographic entertainment, he would now be helping his team in WCFs.
How effective can he be expected to be coming off that kind of injury. He'll be to worried about re-injury to be able to guard manu and tony's drives down the lane. He'll be avoiding the contact like I avoid salad bars.
NO, the game was invented with the intention of one team trying to put ball through peach basket more times than the other team. Keeping the other team from scoring is half the game.
Speaking of defense, did you see Dwayne Wade actually get some defense played on him last night by Detroit? I'm not a Wade-hater, but it was good to see him thrown off his game somewhat by the Pistons' strong D. He was certainly rattled by it.
"Dwayne Wade actually get some defense played on him"
and was it Magic or Charles who was calling DWade out for not returning the defensive favor?
Charles, of course. He said that he won't be another Michael Jordan until he mans up on the defensive end.
"Not many people like to watch the Spurs style of play"
In your Suns homer-biased opinion.
Boutons, answer me this, which team was involved in the NBA Finals that was rated the LOWEST ever for a television audience?
If you answered the Nets and the SPURS, you would know that it is not my opinion. It's fact. Nothing wrong with that, I'm simpling stating people like to watch a more uptempo style of basketball.
Matty, you made the point. The intention of the game is outscore the other team. You don't get wins for having more rebounds, blocks, steals, forced tos, or any defensive stats. You get wins for outscoring the other team. Such as the Spurs did to the Suns on Sunday. If you consider what happened on Sunday defense at its best.
Speaking of Magic Johnson, have you guys been watching a lot of the conversation on TNT? One day he kept saying the word "penetration", I shivered every time.
Here's my contribution to the debate over the Spurs' appeal to casual NBA fans...Boutons, answer me this, which team was involved in the NBA Finals that was rated the LOWEST ever for a television audience?
If you answered the Nets and the SPURS, you would know that it is not my opinion. It's fact. Nothing wrong with that, I'm simpling stating people like to watch a more uptempo style of basketball.
WGAF?
i'll take two les with low television ratings to none anytime mother er
"Boutons, answer me this, which team was involved in the NBA Finals that was rated the LOWEST ever for a television audience?"
If you know the answer, why ask me? WGAF? People watch brain-dead crap like "reality" TV shows and Pro Wrestling, which proves what?
The 03 Spurs won an NBA le with the tools at hand, which is something the Suns AREN'T going do these playoffs.
The 05 Spurs are a very different team, and win scoring high with no-defense jokes like the Suns and win low against complete teams like the Pistons, Heat, Pacers.
The 05 Spurs win playing thugs like Seattle, or win playing pussies like the Suns.
The 05 Spurs can win so many ways, Mike doesn't have a clue how to win except try to play the same game they've played all season. So far, 0-3 vs healthy Spurs.
You guys are all right. Everybody would rather play and win. Fans love it. See look how proud you guys are.
The Suns might not win this year and it's not because they don't have the tools or a good coach. It'd be because either the Spurs or one of the Eastern teams are betters. Plain and simple.
The Spurs can play a different style of games. That's why they are so good and always competing.
The Suns don't need to change their game plan. If the Spurs and other teams are willing to modify their plans to play the Suns game, that's what they'd prefer, win or lose. The Suns have a better chance at winning when they run and score rather trying to grind it out. That's just the type of team they are.
And yes they are 0-3 vs a healthy Spurs group. The Spurs are a great team. Nobody can deny that.
Just don't be sure to overlook the Suns yet. Only 1 game has played. There is a reason they had the best record in the NBA. It's not because they are a bunch of "pussies".
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