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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Here's a question...

    should sexuals be allowed to work as Pat down TSA workers?

    They defeat the whole purpose of same gender workers....

    How do you feel letting a grope your son's ass and genitals?
    Wow, way to play to the lowest common denominator.

    I wouldn't want anyone, straight or gay, to grope my son. Do you think gay men would like doing that WC?

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    Wow, way to play to the lowest common denominator.

    I wouldn't want anyone, straight or gay, to grope my son. Do you think gay men would like doing that WC?

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    TSA At The 'Tipping Point': Passenger Anger At Airport Pat-Downs Threatens To Boil Over

    How did an agency created to protect the public become the target of so much public scorn?

    After nine years of funneling travelers into ever longer lines with orders to have shoes off, sippy cups empty and laptops out for inspection, the most surprising thing about increasingly heated frustration with the federal Transportation Security Administration may be that it took so long to boil over.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1...tml?view=print

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    It took so long to boil over because Americans are dumbed-down, TV-watching, passive sheeple.

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    I'll repost someone else's comment from Reddit on this topic...

    He's taking the safe route just like W. did. There's no evidence that these scanners and patdowns help anything and they are clear violations of personal freedom. However, if he states that and eliminates them, and then someone actually succeeds in blowing up a plane on Christmas, that becomes his next opponents rallying cry for the next election: "Obama doesn't care about national security and he enabled the greatest American tragedy since 9/11."

    In a cost-benefit analysis, it is politically safer for him to just allow this crap to go on so in case something does happen he can say that they were doing everything possible to prevent it. Anti-terrorism is currently a more valuable political position than pro-personal freedoms. That's why the terrorists won.

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    It saddens me deeply to think the terrorists may very well have 'won' on 9/11, at least to this point. They killed thousands that day, 2 gargantuan wars erupted because of it and many more thousands have died since, and our most personal liberties have been taken away in those terrorists' names.

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    There is no doubt that OBL has won the terrorism war with a much less than $1M spent on 9/11 attack.

    America has greatly assisted a hugely amused OBL by shooting itself in the foot and degrading The Mythical American Dream, with the predatory corps pocketing $Bs in defense and security projects that give very little, if any, return as increased security.

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    They have always treated passengers like cattle. At least we used to be happy cows and bulls.
    Not always. It used to be enjoyable to travel.
    Heck, even at the point where it stopped being enjoyable, at least it was convenient.

    At this point, a 4 hour flight has turned into a 7-8 hour ordeal in which travelers are presumed to be and treated like the worst s in the world under the guise of their own safety. Pathetic, really.

    And I absolutely agree that politicians won't give a unless there's some kind of popular backslash. As I said earlier, this is a byproduct of the fear of being labeled 'soft on terror'. They're going to push until people push back.

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    If there was ever a case for non-violent civil disobedience, this is one.

    I'm flying 23 and 28 Dec. Not looking forward to it. I'll refuse to be scanned and will have a prepared running commentary to dump on the old, fat got groping my balls.

    Taiwanese Animation: TSA’s Enhanced Security Spurs US ‘Airport Rage’

    http://www.breitbart.tv/taiwanese-an...-airport-rage/

    the one with the terrorist watching TV and laughing is the very probably close to the truth.

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    ABC producer says TSA agent felt inside her underwear

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/a...-gynecologist/

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    From the link boutons provided:



    Shame on the TSA agents for searching a five-year-old in such a manner - more shame on the father for allowing it.

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    People just need to get upset about this . Its ridiculous.

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    Does anyone know if the TSA workers themselves get scanned each and every day they go to work?

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    I'll repost someone else's comment from Reddit on this topic...
    I'm not sure if Obama is a coward, or he loves executive power, or both. Probably a mixture.

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    Here's a pilot's take on his first encounter with the new TSA procedures.

    http://www.expressjetpilots.com/the-...ay-was-the-day

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    I'm not sure if Obama is a coward, or he loves executive power, or both. Probably a mixture.
    I don't know if I'd go as far as saying he's a coward but the next bold move Obama makes will be the first.

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    Here's a pilot's take on his first encounter with the new TSA procedures.

    http://www.expressjetpilots.com/the-...ay-was-the-day
    Does anyone realize how ridiculous this is? The man is IN CONTROL OF THE AIRPLANE and they're worried about him smuggling in a bomb?



    The TSA is so ing ridiculous.

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    You can bet your ass that if it was one of his daughters being groped by strangers before they could get on a plane Barack would make a move real fast.

    Or maybe he wouldn't. Maybe he's one of those parents willing to sacrifice his children's dignity and future freedom for what he'd call "the greater good".

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    I'll take the pat down. I wonder if I can get in trouble for making it as uncomfortable for them as possible. I swear if I could I'd fart right when that guy/girl had their hand in between my legs.

    Oops.

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    You can bet your ass that if it was one of his daughters being groped by strangers before they could get on a plane Barack would make a move real fast.

    Or maybe he wouldn't. Maybe he's one of those parents willing to sacrifice his children's dignity and future freedom for what he'd call "the greater good".
    To be fair desflood, some parents don't have choices. Heck, I live in Hawaii, and my family is in New Hampshire, and my wife's family is in San Antonio. It's not like driving is a realistic option for us.

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    To be fair desflood, some parents don't have choices. Heck, I live in Hawaii, and my family is in New Hampshire, and my wife's family is in San Antonio. It's not like driving is a realistic option for us.
    Hey, I get that. We're a military family too - I understand that sometimes you're required to live in places that just can't be driven to. I just wish that more people with the choice made a different one. My family is sad that they won't be able to see my daughter when I go up, but they understand and support my decision not to take her. When I canceled her ticket I made it very clear to the ticketing agency and both airlines we're traveling exactly why I was doing so - and while I have to go, I will also be opting for the pat-down over the scanner, and plan on being as obnoxious and snarky about it as possible (while simultaneously making sure I never actually get close to being arrested ).

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    There's clearly a damndd-if-you-do or don't

    If there ever were another high jacking from a US airport and TSA was not using scanners and crotch/breast/ass fondling (cavity probing up next), then they'd be condemned.

    While using the scanners and fondling gets them condemned for harassment and privacy intrusion.

    Of course, TSA are a bunch loser robots incapable making judgement or cost/benefit analyses.

    Like any organization, including the Catholic Church, the TSA is TSA's number one priority. No matter what it costs to citizens, TSA is always more important.

    RapeScan and Chertoff certainly fear-mongered their way into 10 of $Ms of taxapayer money, and taxpayers get screwed again.

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    Not always. It used to be enjoyable to travel.
    Heck, even at the point where it stopped being enjoyable, at least it was convenient.

    At this point, a 4 hour flight has turned into a 7-8 hour ordeal in which travelers are presumed to be and treated like the worst s in the world under the guise of their own safety. Pathetic, really.

    And I absolutely agree that politicians won't give a unless there's some kind of popular backslash. As I said earlier, this is a byproduct of the fear of being labeled 'soft on terror'. They're going to push until people push back.
    I think we agree here. I always thought they went overboard with many of the procedures implemented after 9/11. This however, is absolutely crossing lines unnecessarily.

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    If there was ever a case for non-violent civil disobedience, this is one.

    I'm flying 23 and 28 Dec. Not looking forward to it. I'll refuse to be scanned and will have a prepared running commentary to dump on the old, fat got groping my balls.

    Taiwanese Animation: TSA’s Enhanced Security Spurs US ‘Airport Rage’

    http://www.breitbart.tv/taiwanese-an...-airport-rage/

    the one with the terrorist watching TV and laughing is the very probably close to the truth.
    Just tell them you heard the new TSA slogan. "We handle more packages than UPS."

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    Does anyone realize how ridiculous this is? The man is IN CONTROL OF THE AIRPLANE and they're worried about him smuggling in a bomb?



    The TSA is so ing ridiculous.
    No . I mentioned that elsewhere this morning I think. Maybe yesterday. The real concern is using a plane as a missile again, and no screening is going to stop a rough pilot from doing that.

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    Just heard on ABCNews a poll that 50% of Americans are ok with the 'enhanced patdowns' and 54% of frequent travelers are ok with it too...

    I can't believe those numbers are real...

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