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  1. #126
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    How many times a season do the Nuggets face the Clippers ?


    I mean, poor Mozgov

  2. #127
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    Clearly New York got the better end of the trade, but equally clearly, Walsh would have gotten the deal done and still had Chandler or Gallinari to move for another upgrade. Denver was in no position to dictate the terms of the deal. James Dolan is now officially the stupidest owner in the league.
    Lock the thread.

  3. #128
    Dropping fuckin' loads! Nick Manning's Avatar
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    Denver did well for themselves, but unfortunately their ceiling is being the WC version of the Hawks

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    After seeing this... Toronto should have traded Bosh last year.. can't believe they didn't pull the trigger.
    The only reason Denver got away with this is BECAUSE of the LeBron and Bosh situation.

    Cleveland and Toronto held on to hope that they would keep their superstars.

    Denver just benefited from their experience, plus you can't expect most teams to be as ing stupid as New York. That front office needs to be purged out. Incompetence is rampant. They can't even use their leverage properly.

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    Just as an aside, man the Poor Nets.

    This is a team that was widely regarded as one of the teams with the brightest futures this last Summer. Talk about a complete an utter train wreck.

    They had a ton of cap space and new billionaire owner willing to spend to win and some nice young pieces. They whiffed massively in FA and ended up giving out some pretty bad little contracts to really terrible players. Then they completely miss out on the trade front so far.

    They have to be on like plan Z.

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    You're a lot higher on Gallinari than I am. I can see him being a really good player, maybe even one who can make an all-star team, but not someone you can build a team around.
    Ehh I wouldn't say I'm much higher then that on Gallinari but I definitely wouldn't trade the guy for a draft pick that isn't even guaranteed to be in the top 5.

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    Yeah Dolan has been re ed for a long long time.

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    If Favors is rumored to be in the deal then that's different. I would do that but I wouldn't get rid of Gallinari and/or Felton for a 1st rounder in a pretty weak draft.
    They're supposed to be 2012 picks, and 2012 is going to be a much much better draft most likely. I have read Kyrie Irving is only going to come out this draft if he can get a guarantee he is picked #1 or #2. Harrison Barnes will likely go back for another year to improve his draft stock unless he has a monster NCAA tournament. The HS talent graduating this season is also pretty strong. Plus I see a lot of players staying in school this year with the lockout coming, so you might be some good talent later on next year.

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    If Denver were to keep all the people, I think they are better than some give credit for. They won't though. Like many have said, it is a "given the scenario" type thing where they did well. It will all depend on the other moves they make.

    If they can keep Felton/Gallo and turn the other pieces into first rounders, then they will have done as good as you can hope.

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    Brewer is also going to Denver from Minny

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    If I were them I would, but you can't come out and publicly admit that.
    I'd keep the players and go for the lottery pick this season. Then next season you can start looking to build and be a perennial playoff team.

    I'd like to see how Nene goes at the focal point. He really is a pretty good player. It'd be good if he got more touches.

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    Denver did well for themselves, but unfortunately their ceiling is being the WC version of the Hawks
    Not even. The Hawks have been a Top 5 team in the East for the past few years, constant playoff appearances.

    In the West? Right now Denver is sitting at #7, with Utah right behind at #8.

    Spurs, Lakers, Mavs, Blazers, Thunder, Hornets.... now Jazz and the Grizzlies are better teams imo. Maybe even the Suns.

    Denver will be lucky to keep their spots and reach the playoffs this season.

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    The only reason Denver got away with this is BECAUSE of the LeBron and Bosh situation.

    Cleveland and Toronto held on to hope that they would keep their superstars.

    Denver just benefited from their experience, plus you can't expect most teams to be as ing stupid as New York. That front office needs to be purged out. Incompetence is rampant. They can't even use their leverage properly.
    I thought that Bosh had made it clear that he didn't intend to resign with the Raptors. Or at least that is what I remembered. Maybe it didn't happen that way.

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    They're supposed to be 2012 picks, and 2012 is going to be a much much better draft most likely. I have read Kyrie Irving is only going to come out this draft if he can get a guarantee he is picked #1 or #2. Harrison Barnes will likely go back for another year to improve his draft stock unless he has a monster NCAA tournament. The HS talent graduating this season is also pretty strong.
    That makes better sense. I would consider sending Chandler and/or Mozgov for a first rounder or something but I still would keep Gallinari and Felton if I was Denver.

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    Just as an aside, man the Poor Nets.

    This is a team that was widely regarded as one of the teams with the brightest futures this last Summer. Talk about a complete an utter train wreck.

    They had a ton of cap space and new billionaire owner willing to spend to win and some nice young pieces. They whiffed massively in FA and ended up giving out some pretty bad little contracts to really terrible players. Then they completely miss out on the trade front so far.

    They have to be on like plan Z.
    What is New Jersey like? I don't know much about it. Is it their location that is holding them back that no one wants to play there?

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    I wouldn't be shocked if after all this, the Knicks are a huge disappointment the second half of the year. Billups isn't exactly a D'Antoni kind of PG. And Anthony and Amar'e aren't exactly a textbook pairing.

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    Does Denver ship off JR Smith now?? He could be a move for a team like the Bulls to make.

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    So where does Minnesota come into play here? They get Randolph and Curry for what?

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    So where does Minnesota come into play here? They get Randolph and Curry for what?
    Brewer

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    daldridgetnt David Aldridge
    Nuggets will NOT move Gallo/Mozgov to NJ. "We got these guys to play for the Nuggets," GM Masai Ujiri says. Updated story soon on NBA.com.

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    I wouldn't be shocked if after all this, the Knicks are a huge disappointment the second half of the year. Billups isn't exactly a D'Antoni kind of PG. And Anthony and Amar'e aren't exactly a textbook pairing.
    That's what I'm thinking. This team has a long way to go still IMO.

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    Denver wasn't going to win anything with Anthony anyway so this actually works out amazing for them, IMO. Carmelo is at best a Pippen but will never be an MJ.

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    Does Denver ship off JR Smith now?? He could be a move for a team like the Bulls to make.
    Read on Twitter that more than likely Nene nor JR Smith would be moved.

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    does melo fit in with dantonis system? methinks not
    Is a guy who is capable of leading the NBA in scoring going to fit in with a coach whose system is to try to lead the NBA in scoring? mehopes you were trying to be sarcastic.

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    So Denver gets Brewer also. They are definitely loaded on the wing.

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