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So you don't believe he should be a rotation player on a contender with everybody healthy.
I agree.
Good talk.
I wouldn't say its specious. When Brendan Haywood was out with various injuries, Mahinmi was more than adequate in that capacity, logging 13 games in the 2010/11 regular season of 15+ minutes. If there is something inadvertently specious about this, please point it out.
So you don't believe he should be a rotation player on a contender with everybody healthy.
I agree.
Good talk.
Um, at his current foul rate is what I was referring to (in regards to lasting the required 15-20 minutes).
But I'm so glad you could point out the whole TWO games he fouled out in. I'm sure its going to trigger another wave of crying fits for anyone who happens to read it.
Excuse me, now it's my turn.
That's the point. The Sacramento garbage time 7 minute DQ came after a pretty decent performance in Haywood's place on the road against Houston a few days before. Against the Kings he forced Haywood to close out the game.Um, at his current foul rate is what I was referring to (in regards to lasting the required 15-20 minutes).
But I'm so glad you could point out the whole TWO games he fouled out in. I'm sure its going to trigger another wave of crying fits for anyone who happens to read it.
Excuse me, now it's my turn.
He's not consistent enough to be relied upon by a contending NBA team.
Wow, are you always this much of an immature , or do you just really hate having anyone challenge your perspective? I disagree with your opinion that Mahinmi was capable of being "Duncan's front court running mate." Period. And I gave you reasons why. That hardly translates to being a "hater" or a "popsucker."Mahinmi haters/popologists playing the "dumb" card now since they can't play the "foul prone" card anymore
What's going to be next after the "dumb" card?
Oh, btw..ppl used to comment all the time during game threads about how well Mahinmi rotated defensively, how he was always in the right place. Bzzzzt! Try again popsucker!
BTW, you completely missed the point.
The point, is that Ian wasn't simply foul prone (i.e. committing bad fouls was the only negative aspect of his game), but rather that the fouls he committed were often the result of having a low basketball IQ, and therefore committing stupid fouls was but one of the problems with his game.
The context of this thread was the need to find "Duncan's front court running mate." Your quote (in response to the Spurs needing to find an athletic big like Chandler, Camby, or Ibaka):Now, you continue moving the goal posts in a desperate attempt to justify your statement. You've now migrated to "fouls don't matter since he's only going to be a 20-minute-end-of-bench player, which is a contradiction in, and of itself (end of bench players don't get 20 minutes a game), nevermind actually becoming "Duncan's front court running mate," which by definition necessitates that he'd become a starter, (which even you should understand that obviously takes him out of the 20-minute-end-of-bench-player role [lmfao!] which you've now tried to morph this argument into).We had an athletic 6'11 guy named Mahoney or Mahinney or something like that... not sure what happened to him, he must've blocked too many shots for Pop's liking
Epic. Mahinmi. Cheerleader. Fail.
Next.
Yup, good talk. He's a notch below Haywood but still better than Bonner, Blair or Dice. At roughly 1/10 the price. Cheerio.
So says who? You?
He still wouldn't be in the rotation, just like he wasn't before and isn't now.
Says the last two contending teams he played for.So says who? You?
He just isn't as good as you claim him to be.
So even when I quote your post in it's entirety, you still meant something else?Um, at his current foul rate is what I was referring to (in regards to lasting the required 15-20 minutes).
But I'm so glad you could point out the whole TWO games he fouled out in. I'm sure its going to trigger another wave of crying fits for anyone who happens to read it.
Excuse me, now it's my turn.
Sorry if I conclude that your words mean exactly what they say. I was hoping for more from you, but it's still the same old, same old.
I never said Mahinmi was ready for a prime time role as starter. Please show me the quote where I mention this.
And tbh, I don't think Ian could do any worse than Blair if basketball IQ is the primary measuring stick. Blair easily leads the team every season in "dumbest plays".
THE in goods.
Eh, you think he's good enough to be a 0-40 minute per game end of bench rotation sixth man and defensive player of the year on a championship team.
You made that crystal clear.
Like shooting fish in a barrell.
Yet that somehow means that he could have been Duncans running mate. Call me crazy but I think Duncans running mate would have to be on the floor more than 15 minutes.
Duncan would have to actually run.
The player you have compared him with (more than once, btw), has started every playoff game for a Western Conference finalist.
When you say Ian is a "Serge Ibaka type player" you are saying he is ready for a prime time role.
They're your words, quoted in full.
Can't wait to hear what they actually mean or how I've taken your words out of context.
Jump to conclusions much?The player you have compared him with (more than once, btw), has started every playoff game for a Western Conference finalist.
When you say Ian is a "Serge Ibaka type player" you are saying he is ready for a prime time role.
They're your words, quoted in full.
Can't wait to hear what they actually mean or how I've taken your words out of context.
In the paragraph you quoted..
All I said he was the same "type" of player. Doesn't mean he is ready to jump into a starting gig for a playoff team (although its still a relative unknown at this point)
Then I compared their foul prone natures.. since it was an argument used against Mahinmi for most of his career.... again I am not saying he "ready for a prime time role"
Really, how do you manage to misconstrue and misunderstand everything I say so badly?
So he can be like Ibaka, except not start, not play anywhere near as many minutes and foul a lot more often.Jump to conclusions much?
In the paragraph you quoted..
All I said he was the same "type" of player. Doesn't mean he is ready to jump into a starting gig for a playoff team (although its still a relative unknown at this point)
Then I compared their foul prone natures.. since it was an argument used against Mahinmi for most of his career.... again I am not saying he "ready for a prime time role"
Really, how do you manage to misconstrue and misunderstand everything I say so badly?
Bold.
Yes. And the spurs would have been much better off with Ian playing Bonner's role in the playoffs.
Randolph and Gasol would have had more than a traffic cone standing in their path, plus Duncan could have actually caught a breath or two in the middle of the game and gotten his second wind.
By reading them, much as others in thread have done.
Bottom line is simple:
The topic of this thread is "Duncan's front court running mate".
You have:
1. Brought Mahinmi into the discussion.
2. Compared him favorably to Ibaka.
Having done that, and more, you have proceeded to run away from your own words on multiple occasions.
It's really quite amusing, if a bit disappointing.
Well, a sub point was brought up (the lack of athletic big who can play D and block shots), and as a matter of course I felt it was necessary to mention the spurs DID have a player like that on the roster who specialized in those skills.
Never said Mahinmi & Ibaka were the same exact player... but there are similarities. Both athletic, good size with hops, both have prone to foul problems (Mahinmi moreso), both good shotblockers, each has nice touch. I'd even argue Mahinmi has a better developed post game than Ibaka, something else the spurs are currently lacking. I don't think Ian is nearly as polished around the rim as Ibaka or quite as good a shotblocker or defender so ya he is not in the same class currently. But the spurs are really in no position to be fickle.. they need what Mahinmi has, even if in short bursts.
That is all.
Color it any way you guys like...
but Mahinmi is still in the playoffs right now...while the spurs are fishing...
and you could arguably say that the Chandler/Haywood/Mahinmi bigs are better than the
...Duncan/Dice/Bonner/Blair "bigs"
If Mahinmi is so ty...I would think the Mavs would of taken a pass on him.
You can also probably safely say...that any other coach in the NBA...would take Mahinmi over Bonner.
But go ahead and keep making excuses for the complete of a coach and player combo that are Pop/Bonner.
that the Mavs are still in the playoffs has absolutely nothing to do with Ian whatsoever. There's a guy named dirk nowitzki that has just little something to do with that. And the argument that why did Dallas take him then is bull . There's ty players on every team, it's called filling out your roster.
The post you quoted when you introduced Ian to this discussion said that the Spurs need someone like Chandler, Camby, or Ibaka to play next to Tim. You said then, and appear to be saying again, that Ian is that type of player.
But of course you're not saying that Ian is ready for prime time....or are you?
You've backtracked, moved the goalposts and changed the subject so many times that it is impossible to tell.
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