If 2008 Rondo is a star player, there's probably a 1500 page novel that can be written about every star player in NBA history.
Some of you guys forget that Westbrook played SG at UCLA. And he was more of a defensive player rather than a scorer.
Can he play the PG position better? Yes. However, he is only 22 years old, so there are going to be some growing pains. Steve Nash didn't come into the league possessing the PG skills he has now. In fact, he was more of a scorer at Santa Clara.
So give Westbrook a few more years; he is only going to get better.
Nash also doesn't have the IQ of a banana
Wasn't it kind of assumed in my post that the star player I eluded to at PG would be a complimentary star player?"star at the PG position" like it's a good thing
I don't recall this discussion ever being about a star PG being the "true star" vs a "complimentary star".
You made it about det trying to argue Parker and Billups were the best players on their respective teams.
Regarding the Thunder, I do believe Westbrook's mere presence on the court hurts them as a team.
You said having a star PG was a bad thing. Now you're telling me it depends on the type of star as if that wasn't something I had already said.
Westbrook has a lot to offer but he's hurting the team by trying to take over games when he should be deferring to Durant. He's shown really poor decision making and shot selection.
"10 pts 5 assists = star"
John Stockton's Jazz didnt win because unfortunately they were going up against the GOAT. Kidd's Nets went up against the two best players of this generation in Duncan & Shaq. You can say thats easier to build around SGs and bigman which would probably be true...but saying its impossible to build around a PG is false imho. Its been done, and will probably be done in the near future considering the decline in quality big man and a solid PG generation.
Kidd's Nets were a joke and only made the finals because of a terribly weak Eastern Conference. Do you see that team having a chance against the current day Heat or Celtics?
Probably not. But Rose's Bulls do.
No, he wasnt. Parker was good that year but duncan was still better. Tony may have been better that Finals ...but tim was the MVP of that team on offense and defense. the coverage he drew allowed Parker to flourish ...
Well Rose's Bulls are a much better team that isn't starting Nick Collins at center
Or Jason Collins whatever his name is
True. But theyre still built around a PG that dominates the ball.
pretty sure it was todd mccollouf too tbh
....3 pages later
.BUMP.
LMAO Westbrook, he was atrocious down the stretch, along with Durant, par the course. Dude is a re , tries dribbling through 5 players and wonders why it often leads to turnovers, getting fouled and missing both FTs, taking bad shots, etc.
And people want to compare him to Derrick Rose.
That's because, in the world of the PG, the two have common speed and athleticism. Rose has a higher BB IQ and trusts his teammates. He also doesn't seem as bent on playing the hero..BUMP.
LMAO Westbrook, he was atrocious down the stretch, along with Durant, par the course. Dude is a re , tries dribbling through 5 players and wonders why it often leads to turnovers, getting fouled and missing both FTs, taking bad shots, etc.
And people want to compare him to Derrick Rose
Westbrook needs to learn how to remain aggressive while still being in control of the floor, not just the ball. Those few times he's deferred have often been times that he's simply stopped being aggressive because he's butt hurt at coach or some other player. Then he gets aggressive again and gets a couple good looks, and the rest is turnover and offensive foul festival, or dribble for 20 seconds into the shot clock before dumping to someone else for the turnover.
Westbrook did some really good things last night, but he killed the team with his incessant selfishness and panic-mode style of play late in the game, and the blame for that is on Scrot Brooks.
+ you forgot to mention Westbrook is a 9-year old temper tantrum throwing little bag who loses his cool all of the time.
And I wholeheartedly agree on Brooks, it's hard not to at this point, that guy is just making himself out to be a (just like his PG) every time he talks in the post game press conference. His coaching style can work during the regular season when you have a couple of young stars but it's being exposed in the playoffs. He just seems like he has no control over his team during the games. The funny part is although OKC would be better off without Brooks and Westbrook, neither are likely to be sacked.
And LMAO, just now while typing this I heard Durant say their youth had nothing to do with the outcome
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