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    Now, if there is strong data showing that banning cell phones/texting had little to no effect, that would be a quiver in the anti-ban argument.
    You waved off the industry study without looking at any of the data, so it's a bit premature to demand better data, don't you think?

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    There are a variety of things you can do while driving that are hazardous. Perhaps we need a law for each one we can think of. Even Gov. Goodhair can figure this one out.

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    You waved off the industry study without looking at any of the data, so it's a bit premature to demand better data, don't you think?
    I don't think I have to provide data for and against now, do I? If others want to make the claim that it makes no difference, let them argue their evidence.

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    There are a variety of things you can do while driving that are hazardous. Perhaps we need a law for each one we can think of. Even Gov. Goodhair can figure this one out.
    Are you against drunk driving laws? If not, why?

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    If others want to make the claim that it makes no difference, let them argue their evidence.
    If you dismiss evidence without even looking at it you have only clarified your own bias.

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    If you dismiss evidence without even looking at it you have only clarified your own bias.
    Please point to me where I dismissed the study offhand, thank you.

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    Are you talking about the study referenced by Grits in this article?

    http://www.statesman.com/news/nation...ks-202744.html

    The study that was conducted by the Highway Loss Data Ins ute, that mentions later...

    The Highway Loss Data Ins ute, an affiliate of the Insurance Ins ute for Highway Safety, said its findings "don't match what we already know about the risk of phoning and texting while driving" and said it is gathering data to "figure out this mismatch."
    So the study referred to by Grits that shows that banning texting/cell phone usage has no effect on crashes was conducted by the very same organization that believes texting/cell phone usage has a serious ability to affect a driver.

    Damning evidence, to be sure.

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    Yep.

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    Considering the Ins ute who performed the study found the results startling, and is itself unsure of the reasons, I don't find that particularly compelling.

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    I'd have to see the data points for that though.
    I overread, or hastily read, this statement. The sentence before should have contextualized it for me. My bad LnGrrR.

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    Rick Perry would make a way better prez than Obama, don't kid yourselves.

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    I overread, or hastily read, this statement. The sentence before should have contextualized it for me. My bad LnGrrR.
    Fair enough.

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    this woman nearly sideswiped me this morning at 70mph on i10. She was in a little audi sports car convertible. We were running side by side and i wouldn't have even known she was texting and not paying attention to driving if i hadn't been checking out her magnificent rack lol.
    lmao!

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    The Insurance Ins ute for Highway Safety says that 3 of every 4 states that have enacted a ban on texting while driving have seen crashes actually go up rather than down.


    It's hard to pin down exactly why this is the case, but experts believe it is a result of people trying to avoid getting caught in states with stiff penalties. Folks trying to keep their phones out of view will often hold the phone much lower, below the wheel perhaps, in order to keep it out of view. That means the driver's eyes are looking down and away from the road.
    http://www.ksl.com/?sid=22657873&nid=148

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    I fully support Rick on this one. Just because women are too in stupid to mul ask (i.e. text and drive at the same time) doesn't mean it should be ruined for men fully capable of doing so.

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    Rick Perry would make a way better prez than Obama, don't kid yourselves.
    yeah, his "Lets hold a prayathon to fix the economy!" plan will surely work.

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    I fully support Rick on this one. Just because women are too in stupid to mul ask (i.e. text and drive at the same time) doesn't mean it should be ruined for men fully capable of doing so.


    Seriously though, 80% of people are too stupid to operate a vehicle, let alone mul ask, man or woman. Last week a guy in front of me was texting in stop-and-go traffic. He kept speeding up to catch up to the flow of traffic then proceeded to text, until he finally mistimed and rammed into the woman in front of him. I immediately switched lanes and laughed hysterically at him with my window down.

    Now I'm an awesome driver and could proabably play the violin while driving, but the average citizen is just too dumb.

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    Me being in the 20% annoys me. Laws are continuously made to protect the stupidity of the 80% that ruin it for smart people, like me.

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    Me being in the 20% annoys me. Laws are continuously made to protect the stupidity of the 80% that ruin it for smart people, like me.
    what if the laws meant to protect you from idiots put you in even more danger? the insurance industry study cited above suggests this is a possibility.

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    what if the laws meant to protect you from idiots put you in even more danger? the insurance industry study cited above suggests this is a possibility.
    The unintended consequences bug strikes again. Other than massively invading your privacy, a tactic that is becoming more and more attractive to local law enforcement, what other solution is there but to criminalize the activity that we wish to curb?

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    The unintended consequences bug strikes again. Other than massively invading your privacy, a tactic that is becoming more and more attractive to local law enforcement, what other solution is there but to criminalize the activity that we wish to curb?
    Hows that campaign to have people pledge no to text and drive going?

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    No idea. Emperically, it doesn't seem to be going so well hence the "what other solution is there but to criminalize the activity that we wish to curb?"

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