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    probably a good time to make a purchase......I do not have the extra 160 bucks lying around to buy even one share, so that sucks for me.
    But I agree it could be a good time to buy
    their stocks will come back and now then is the perfect time to buy.
    I am not sure, but I'll bet that the market reacts well to this.


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    Yeah people are just getting in line to jump on cable or satalite.
    People are already on cable or "satellite". Most families are already on one or the other, so those are the markets that will be targeted. No one is going to a bargaining table for bit torrent and streaming users. It's the majority, not the minority, that drives the market.

    I realize that's a shocker for a troll but take it one bite at a time.

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    One on demand movie is almost a month of netflix

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    One on demand movie is almost a month of netflix
    and you can download movies for free

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    Satellite companies might be doing OK but cable companies are in deep . Neither one has anything to do with netflix struggling, it's netflix needing to pay more for contract rights to stream shows/movies and them shooting themselves in the foot with a price increase that they greatly underestimated the negative reaction too

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    There will be plenty more streaming movie sites to rise and fall long after Netflix has faded.

    The deepest pockets who reach the most viewers on a regular basis (not internet users as many people do not regularly use the internet) will be the ones to secure exclusive contracts. That will keep other players offering movies and second run films, even if it's for cheap, and they will have their niche but without the ability to recover a huge investment quickly, they cannot compete with the big players.

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    Streaming will replace cable in the near future. Exclusive contracts are the only things keeping cable alive, it's a dead technology, and it's almost stupid that we have to use 20 year technology because of these contracts.

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    ...and it's almost stupid that we have to use 20 year technology because of these contracts.
    this would also fit in a Richard Jefferson / Matt Bonner thread.

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    Streaming will replace cable in the near future. Exclusive contracts are the only things keeping cable alive, it's a dead technology, and it's almost stupid that we have to use 20 year technology because of these contracts.
    Technology aside, companies like Time Warner will bully the market around and overbid for things just to push other players out.

    The infrastructure required for upgrading technology (face it, not everyone is going to have super fast download speeds) is decades out for many areas, especially suburban and rural areas.

    While some tech savvy people will cut their cable service and find work around technology, and surely they will feel it's better, the large majority of Americans are not tech savvy (which is why a rep has to come to their home to reset a cable box and why the "Geek Squad" even exists) and they will continue using what they currently have.

    If push comes to shove, large corporations will lower prices to make it hard to abort cable or satellite services.

    I've always thought it was interesting how the younger crowd thinks the liberal mindset of young urban professionals reflects that of the nation. Why do you think Bush was elected twice? Ignorance.

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    this would also fit in a Richard Jefferson / Matt Bonner thread.
    Really? What does either have to do with 20 year technology?

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    Really? What does either have to do with 20 year technology?
    all three ed your mom

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    so if cable's going away due to streaming where will we get our ISPs from to stream our stream

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    People are already on cable or "satellite". Most families are already on one or the other, so those are the markets that will be targeted. No one is going to a bargaining table for bit torrent and streaming users. It's the majority, not the minority, that drives the market.

    I realize that's a shocker for a troll but take it one bite at a time.
    lol you replied.. I won.

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    No because no one watches Amazon. You have to have an internet account for that.

    I am talking about cable or satellite providers offering movies the day they are in theaters.

    It's going to happen. Online outlets like Netflix and Amazon probably won't be able to compete with Time Warner and some of the large satellite providers in terms of exclusive studio deals.
    and I still won't pay 90 bucks for cable just so I can pay 6 bucks for a movie.

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    telling me the markets would react well to Quikster
    I said probably, I said it may react well to the concentration of netflix offering (not qwickster specifically), but I will give you this, netflix is shooting themselves in the foot with all of this back and forth

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    there isnt enough internet or bandwith, data to support going to streaming only. plus the studios and cable companies will collude from prevent things from happening.

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    As much as I've scoffed this stock, a 35% tumble after a quarterly earnings release that actually had better than expected financial performance is dumb. If it drops below 50 I think it's a great buy.

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    well I think that rather than buying the stock, perhaps buying an 80 dollar call might be a good idea. It limits your downside, but I can't help but think that this is way oversold. (of course I was wrong before).

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    I wouldn't buy it right now because at this point there is actually serious risk netflix folds. I think if it gets low enough but still is churning out a healthy profit, the reward outweighs the risk. Losing 800,000 customers when they were projected to lose 600,000 customers really isn't THAT big a deal.

    The problem is Hastings went from looking like the 2nd coming of Steve Jobs as a technology CEO to looking like a weak idiot who just reacts with a weird letter every time his company's stock goes down. I remember just last semester we had a writing prompt in a business communications class related to an article praising what Hastings has done with Netflix. His image has done a 180 since then.

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    Streaming will replace cable in the near future. Exclusive contracts are the only things keeping cable alive, it's a dead technology, and it's almost stupid that we have to use 20 year technology because of these contracts.
    This isn't true at all. Streaming will not replace cable for quite some time if at all. Cable IS streaming for the most part right now and while the delivery methods have already changed quite a bit you're not going to see those companies that make up the networks just fade away or start offering ala carte online. They could have done that a long ass time ago if they wanted but the point is they don't.

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    If you're going to see streaming replace anything its going to be actual media sales much in the way that ebooks have really put a dent in actual book says via ereaders like the Kindle. But even that has a big hurdle because while an ebook takes seconds to download, HD movies do not.

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    I just don't understand what netflix has been doing in the last 18 months or so.
    they had a nice social "experiment" going on where you could review movies, check your friends queues, reviews, send messages, recoomendations. they canned that for no reason: http://blogs.investors.com/click/ind...ing-experiment

    they had a decent recommendation and intelligence to discover movies. sucks now

    they are using the same search engine as 8 years ago! could not improve it in 8 years?? I wanna search keywords, etc

    their website experience keeps getting worse and worse

    their iphone/android/ps3 apps suck major donkey

    not to mention all the foolish decisions on the business side

    IMO the CEO is an undercover working on the demise of Netflix from the inside. this is the only rational explanation. A monkey would have done a better job in the last 18 months.

    and to think I was about to invest a good chunk on Netflix about 8 months ago


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    I just don't understand what netflix has been doing in the last 18 months or so.
    they had a nice social "experiment" going on where you could review movies, check your friends queues, reviews, send messages, recoomendations. they canned that for no reason: http://blogs.investors.com/click/ind...ing-experiment

    they had a decent recommendation and intelligence to discover movies. sucks now

    they are using the same search engine as 8 years ago! could not improve it in 8 years?? I wanna search keywords, etc

    their website experience keeps getting worse and worse

    their iphone/android/ps3 apps suck major donkey

    not to mention all the foolish decisions on the business side

    IMO the CEO is an undercover working on the demise of Netflix from the inside. this is the only rational explanation. A monkey would have done a better job in the last 18 months.

    and to think I was about to invest a good chunk on Netflix about 8 months ago

    yeah whoever decided to go with those redesigned netflix and amazon should be canned. both of those sites suck and seem nearly identical in design.

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    lol you replied.. I won.
    You just forfeited back to me

    oops... nm

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    These companies are not ting the bed accidentally. They start off on the cheap, like a drug dealer, then they "introduce" new features and subsequently raise the price, thinking enough people stick around to make it profitable.

    Netflix, for example, lost 800,000 subscribers (weird how it was a round number like that) but if they doubled their price and lost 40% of their users, they made a 10% profit increase (or more considering they have 40% less people using the system).

    Companies like Time Warner have their down, because cable has been around a long time before most of the posters on this forum, so it's a known cost and they can keep piling on services and programs because they have a load of bandwidth for new channels.

    Like another poster said, you still have to have an internet connection, and that's your bottleneck anyhow. You aren't going to rid yourself of that and just inductively tap into Netflix while you meditate.

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