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so the 4s isnt better then the Binoc or the s2?
Well, it makes sense why they've been suing the outta Samsung.
so the 4s isnt better then the Binoc or the s2?
Interestingly, Apple usually doesn't say how much RAM their phones have.
That depends on what you think makes one phone better than another.
i try to compare specs first before OS...(ie ram ghz..etc)
I think the fail within a fail right here is apple's attempt at something "magical" this year.
lol Greece
I try to compare performance, rather than specs. Just because something has a higher spec than something else, doesn't mean it's better.
The Apple Product Cycle
An obscure component manufacturer somewhere in the Pacific Rim announces a major order for some bleeding-edge piece of technology that could conceivably become part of an expensive, digital-lifestyle-enhancing nerd toy.
Some hardware geek, the sort who actually reads press releases from obscure Pacific Rim component manufacturers, posts a link to the press release in a Mac Internet forum.
The Mac rumor sites spring into action. Liberally quoting “reliable” sources inside Cupertino, irrelevant “experts,” and each other, they quickly transform baseless speculation into widely accepted fact.Eager Mac-heads fan the flames by flooding the Mac discussion forums with more groundless conjecture.
Threads pop up around feature wish lists, favorite colors, and likely retail price points. In a matter of days, a third-hand, unsubstantiated rumor blossoms into a hand-held device that can do everything except find a girlfriend for a fat, smelly nerd.
Apple issues it customary “we don’t comment on possible future products” statement in response to inquiries about the hypothetical new product.
Mac fanatics are convinced that they're onto something.
The haters enter the fray to introduce fear, uncertainty and doubt. How expensive will the product be? Will it support Windows file formats? Will it work with my ten-year-old Quadra 840AV running Mac OS 8.1?
As Macworld or the Worldwide Developer’s Conference draws near, the chatter builds to a fever pitch. Rumor sites jockey for position, posting a new unverifiable, contradictory rumor every hour or so. eBay is flooded with six-month-old, slightly used gadgets as college students, underemployed web designers and independent musicians struggle to clear credit card space.
Steve Jobs spends the first half-hour of his keynote crowing about how many iPods shipped during the previous six months and how many “native applications” have been developed for OS X. Attempting to appear as though it’s just an afterthought, he finally introduces the new Apple product. The product has sleek, clean lines, a diminutive form factor, and less than half of the useful features that everyone was expecting.
Jobs announces that the product is available “immediately.”
Five minutes later, the new product appears on the online Apple store. Orders have an estimated ship date that is four weeks away.The online Apple store takes 50,000 orders in the first 24 hours.Apple’s stock surges as Wall Street analysts proclaim the new device will be “Apple’s savior” and the key to turning around the decades-long decline in Apple’s share of the global PC market.
The haters offer their assessment. The forums are ablaze with vitriolic rage. Haters pan the device for being less powerful than a Cray X1 while zealots counter that it is both smaller and lighter than a Buick Regal. The virtual slap-fight goes on and on, until obscure technical nuances like, “Will it play multiplexed Ogg Vorbis streams?” become matters of life and death.
The editors of popular Mac magazines hail the new device as the next great step toward our utopian digital future. Wired News runs exclusive interviews with the Apple design team. Fortune publishes another glowing fluff piece about Steve Jobs, proclaiming him to be the great visionary behind all technological innovation. Newsweek declares the device the new “must have” item for any self-respecting urban technophile. All of this is written before anybody outside of Cupertino has held the new device in his or her hand.
In the wee hours of the morning on the initial ship date, as the Mac heads lay snug in their beds or take MDMA and dance to bad music, Apple delays everybody’s ship date by four weeks.Rage reigns in the Mac forums.
Lifelong Mac users who would never consider purchasing anything made by Microsoft or Dell, regardless of how shabbily Apple treats them, vent their anguish and frustration. Failing utterly to see the irony of the situation, they prattle on until their panties are twisted in knots.
The rumor sites abound with half-baked theories blaming the shipping delay on everything from heat dissipation problems to SARS. The most obvious explanation, that Apple lied about the initial shipment dates, is ignored in favor of more elaborate and unlikely scenarios.
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The haters offer their assessment. The forums are ablaze with vitriolic rage. Haters pan the device for being less powerful than a Cray X1 while zealots counter that it is both smaller and lighter than a Buick Regal. The virtual slap-fight goes on and on, until obscure technical nuances like, “Will it play multiplexed Ogg Vorbis streams?” become matters of life and death.
Unstaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaacked
or the 3d
So I am not sure if I read it correctly, but did anyone else see an article (I think it was on engadget or earlier in this thread) that this thing only does EVDO rev A?
I heard it has a built in 56K modem, and comes with AOL.
And I am stuck with a 28.8 modem and PRODIGY on my Android Bionic...
Just watched the Siri video that Apple posted on Youtube.
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
Badass
Wait for the jailbreak to enable it on the iPhone 4
Wait for the jailbreak to enable it on the iPhone 4
Completely forgot
apple dissappints, except their fans dont care and ask how high whenever jobs says jump. hopefully ice cream sandwhich and the prime bring more to the table.
Pretty shocking. Given how much heat they're feeling from Android, I expected Apple to really go nuts on their upgrade this year. Instead... a better camera? They claim it's going to be the best still camera most people ever own? Really? A faster processor that's going to be completely crushed by the Nexus Prime, and they think they can brag about how good games are going to run on their iPhone? It makes absolutely no sense for me for Apple to not try to push for the best hardware but still somehow brag about how they are the best in that department. The Galaxy S II has a faster processor and it's been out a while.
Siri is really cool and that tech has the potential to go a long way, but I hardly ever use Google Voice as it is, and that's a pretty damn stellar voice recognition program. I just don't need to, given that I can usually input what I need as fast as I can say it.
Just an odd lull for Apple after how drastic of a change the iPhone 4 was from the 3GS. Resting on their laurels will get them eaten alive, and everyone would lose in the cell phone game if Apple started slipping.
Oh, and 5GB of online data? Is this 2005? How are you going to upload data to the cloud if you're restricted to 2GB of data per month? I guess you'll have to wait to get home to use Wifi... but doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a cloud in the first place?
I've decided I will just wait, try ios5 on my 4, and upgrade my CPU and motherboard and try Rage instead.
CH, I think they may get eaten alive spec-wise before the 5 comes out, but with them coming on Sprint and the iPhone being a worldphone they will absolutely crush sales-wise.
The real reason there's no iPhone 5: The carriers
By: Molly Wood October 4, 2011 4:15 PM PDT
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In retrospect, it shouldn't be a surprise that Apple released a half-step iPhone this week, instead of a revolutionary and redesigned iPhone 5. Think about it--the real reason for the iPhone 4S is the same as for the iPhone 3GS: carrier contracts are two years long.
The 4S isn't meant to be an upgrade for iPhone 4 users--it's a lure to get new iPhone users in the door, and you iPhone 4 folks will get your iPhone 5 upgrade just in time for a new contract. And if you decide you can't wait and spend big bucks to break your contract or buy the iPhone 4S at full price...well, that was your choice, wasn't it?
Is the most amazing iPhone yet good enough?
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Look back at Apple's iPhone release history and you'll see that the iPhone 4S is just the next step in the product evolution, which went from 3G to 3GS to 4, and now to 4S. It actually makes perfect sense, once the lust for new technology and new Apple hardware starts to subside. If anything, Apple is playing a very clever s game with carrier contracts that allows it to grab new buyers every year instead of every two years.
I polled my Twitter brigade after the announcement, asking them whether the iPhone 4 users in the audience would upgrade to the iPhone 4S. The vast majority of iPhone 4 users said no, and the main reason they cited was their contracts. Examples:
@mollywood No way. Vain nerds (me) don't care about behind the scenes improvements, and siri isn't cool enough to warrant contract breakage.@mollywood I won't. I still have 1 year on my contract, so I'll wait for the next iPhone to "wow" me. The 4GS isn't impressive, IMO.@mollywood it's a no for me Molly. I didn't upgrade from 3G to 3GS for the same reason - nothing to justify the ETF [early termination fee]That was a pretty standard set of responses from the iPhone 4 set and no surprise, really. (A few said they'd get it no matter what, out of sheer Apple love, but that's to be expected.) On the other hand, here are some responses from 3G owners:
@mollywood iPhone 3GS owner definitely upgrading to an iPhone 4S@mollywood I am buying, though upgrading from a 3GS, so the reason is pretty obvious. Always wait for the refined product!@mollywood yes. Wife's 3GS done. She gets my 4, I get 4SThink about the staggering for a second here and you'll see it's a pretty smart strategy on Apple's part. iPhone 3G owners on contract could skip the 3GS and get a meaty upgrade in the iPhone 4, while iPhone 3GS owners can feel great about jumping all the way up to the Siri-enabled iPhone 4S. Meanwhile, iPhone 4 owners get most of the features of iOS 5, minus Siri, and can pay a nice fat premium if they really, really want it. Either way, Apple sells iPhones year after year after year.
Sure, the iConsumer is being played, but the rage is less than what it would be if the forced upgrade march--an inevitability with Apple and all other consumer tech--was moving at a faster clip than the carrier contracts.
Dissatisfied customer, or future satisfied iPhone 5 customer? Well, both, really.
Granted, the strategy has its risks.
Android compe ion is fiercer than ever, with new next-generation phones coming out at a furious clip: the Droid Bionic, the Samsung Galaxy S II, and the HTC Evo 4G are each phenomenal dual-core phones, and the Android OS offers nearly all of what iOS 5 just achieved: notifications, Twitter integration, over-the-air upgrades, more advanced browsing, and yes, speech to text features. Obviously, those features aren't as advanced as Siri, which gives undeniably amazing demo, but is it enough to overcome missing extras like a bigger screen, 4G speeds, and expandable storage (especially considering the $399 with contract price of the 64GB iPhone 4S)?
Plus, the Nexus Prime looms on the horizon, with an event coming October 11 where we may see not only that phone but Google's Ice Cream Sandwich iteration of Android. If the Prime appears in all its dual-core, 4G, 4.5-inch screen, pure Android glory and also supports NFC for mobile payments, plus a camera that's at least equal to the existing iPhone 4 camera, consumers might be wondering why they should bother with a middling upgrade in a sea of superstar phones?
And Apple may be wondering about the wisdom of trickling out minor updates instead of trying to string together a series of grand slams. Me, personally? I had planned to be writing a blog post this week that said I'd preordered my iPhone 5 because Android had its chance and blew it. Now, I'm not so sure. But I'm still not willing to call the iPhone 4S a dropped ball. If anything, it's just the next page in the Apple playbook, and Apple's $90 billion in cash says its been playing pretty well up until now.
New iPhone ever time a contract ends......no really? You'd have to be slower then the processor to not know that already
Their strategy might have been to get people like me, who had a 3GS to upgrade, but they've failed because there's nothing impressive about the 4S that would make me buy it over Android phones that have been released recently.
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