A letter to the New York City protesters

[DarrinS]

They should be at the Capitol and White House then. It is from there the problems are emanating.

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[DarrinS]

Man, the depths you guys have to go to try to make people who just want power out of Wall St's hands is amazing. I would have thought the way people here protested the bail outs and TBTF that EVERYONE would have been behind this. Never underestimate the pride one has in their particular political team, I guess.

They are just 3 years late to the party. Short bus takes longer to get there, I suppose.

[MannyIsGod]

Ah, so now that people with political beliefs close to yours are doing what the tea parties have been doing, you're ok with them?

See, this is what I mean about you being functionally illiterate. Go back and reread my post. Do it a few times if you have to.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

They should take a poll of these protesters and ask who they're voting for in '12.

[clambake]

They should take a poll of these protesters and ask who they're voting for in '12.

who's running?

[MannyIsGod]

They should take a poll of these protesters and ask who they're voting for in '12.

Who should they vote for?

[Spurminator]

So, what is their aim in protesting?

Are you just trolling now? In the very post you quoted I said they have no central goal and that protests these days rarely do. Don't ask me to give you their "aim" when I just told you they don't have, or need, one.

They're gathered together because they're pissed off about the financial district's influence on Washington, and they have the spare time to gather there. Just like the Tea Party was pissed off about government's influence on business and had the spare time to gather together to protest it.

I know you're a puppet but I never took you for a ing idiot.

[MannyIsGod]

They are just 3 years late to the party. Short bus takes longer to get there, I suppose.

Actually, they were there before the Tea Party. They just happened to rally behind someone who didn't have the balls to actually make change int he system.

[Spurminator]

They should take a poll of these protesters and ask who they're voting for in '12.

And that's the only reason you guys are so scared of these rallies, because they're probably voting differently than you. How predictable.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

See, this is what I mean about you being functionally illiterate. Go back and reread my post. Do it a few times if you have to.

I read it. It's not hard to comprehend. Is the question to hard to answer? You obviously have no problem defending these protesters from what im reading here. You took every possible shot at the tea party and now you say you're giving them credit because "the anger on certain issues is parallel with these people". Is that correct?

[CosmicCowboy]

Well, the "power" Wall Street wields just happens to be the power that fuels the economic engine of this country.

Yoni, those wall street leeches do not fuel economic growth. Oh yeah, the ability to do IPO's and connect cash to growing companies is a good thing, but that is just a tiny part of what they do. They make money whether the economy booms or busts and they really don't give a which it is.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Who should they vote for?

I don't tell people what to do or think. I said "poll"

[MannyIsGod]

I read it. It's not hard to comprehend. Is the question to hard to answer? You obviously have no problem defending these protesters from what im reading here. You took every possible shot at the tea party and now you say you're giving them credit because "the anger on certain issues is parallel with these people". Is that correct?

What am I giving them credit for, Viva? I said it in there. What does my second sentence say? Do I agree with their solutions or not? What does my final point say?

I have not changed my stance regarding the Tea Party one bit. Of course its OK that they're angry and it always has been. Of course I'm going to give them credit for becoming a viable political force. That doesn't mean that I agree with what they want to do or I agree that their only motivation is anger over what was going on.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

And that's the only reason you guys are so scared of these rallies, because they're probably voting differently than you. How predictable.

It's amazing how people just talk out of there ass to feel good about themselves. smh

Spurm, I don't really expect everyone to think like me or me to think like everyone. We're all individuals. I don't care if you vote Steve Jobs. I don't care if you vote for Castro. Do whatever the you want. There's no gun at your head.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't tell people what to do or think. I said "poll"

I didn't say you did. I was asking you a question. See, reading, Viva. Reading.

Anyway, what would you be looking for in the poll results?

[MannyIsGod]

It's amazing how people just talk out of there ass to feel good about themselves. smh

Spurm, I don't really expect everyone to think like me or me to think like everyone. We're all individuals. I don't care if you vote Steve Jobs. I don't care if you vote for Castro. Do whatever the you want. There's no gun at your head.

Are you sure you know what I don't care means? You just said they should conduct a poll so obviously you care who they are voting for.

[Agloco]

So, what is their aim in protesting?

tbqh, with the current economic + jobs situation as it is, and after that big bank bailout we had to foot the bill for, if you're still wondering what that people are protesting, you're either dumb or purposely idiotic.

They should be at the Capitol and White House then. It is from there the problems are emanating.

Not sure what angle you're taking here but I'll proceed under the assumption that you're holding Obama solely responsible for this mess.

When did Bear Stearns and Countrywide go under again?

Washington may have provided the arms, but Wall Street chooses to employ them of their own volition. You go after the perpetrator in any case. Immorality runs rampant in the free market. It was laid bare during the financial crisis.

[Yonivore]

Not sure what angle you're taking here but I'll proceed under the assumption that you're holding Obama solely responsible for this mess.

When did Bear Stearns and Countrywide go under again?

It probably would help for you to see this post from another thread...

Exactly what did Wall Street do?

Pay their CEOs too much? It's their money...Oh, and I seem to remember posting an article that pointed our the compensation packages for the top 25, of the Fortune 500 companies, did not amount to the more than $500 million dollars the Obama administration threw down the Solyndra money pit.

Not pay enough in taxes? Government constructed the tax code and businesses would do their stockholders a disservice to throw away money when they are playing by the rules that have been dictated.

Took TARP money? I seem to remember there was a meeting, during the Bush administration, where his Treasury Secretary, Paulson, current Treasury Secretary Tim Geigthner, FDIC Chair Sheila Blair, and Fed Chair Ben Bernanke strong-armed Wall Street Banks into taking TARP money. I said, at the time, they should have let the banks fail.

And, another thing, the "Occupy Wall Street" protests are doing less to big business than they are to the thousands of not-so-rich Wall Street employees just trying to eke out a living like the rest of us.

Washington may have provided the arms, but Wall Street chooses to employ them of their own volition. You go after the perpetrator in any case.

Wall street was forced to take TARP money. Besides, it would be foolish for a company to pass up on a legal opportunity to stay solvent. I was in favor of letting the banks fail. Some still argue they were too big to fail and that if they hadn't been propped up the market would have crashed.

To that I say, great! At least we'd be further along in our recovery than this slow strangulation we're experiencing at the hands of the current administration.

Immorality runs rampant in the free market. It was laid bare during the financial crisis.

Because, morality underpins socialism?

Systems have no morality. Does capitalism have a component of greed? Absolutely. But, in no other form of market is altruism and philanthropy as high as it is in the free market capitalism of the United States.

I like how Milton Friedman explained it to Phil Donahue, years ago.

[Spurminator]

It's amazing how people just talk out of there ass to feel good about themselves. smh

Spurm, I don't really expect everyone to think like me or me to think like everyone. We're all individuals. I don't care if you vote Steve Jobs. I don't care if you vote for Castro. Do whatever the you want. There's no gun at your head.

I'm just saying it's been awfully predictable to see how some of you have reacted to the Occupy rallies.

[boutons_deux]

"altruism and philanthropy as high as it is in the free market capitalism of the United States."

neither of those have ANYTHING to do with capitalism, unless capitalists are altruistic or philanthropic to obtain accounting "good will" and public acceptance for their non-altruistic, non-philanthropic capital-seeking activities.

And no other industrial country is as so ruthlessly, mercilessly sociopathic, eg about health care, as the for-profit health care of UCA.

[DarrinS]

I wonder how many of these hipsters know who Larry Summers is?

[DarrinS]

All the while, paying homage to capitalist extraordinaire, Steve Jobs

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[Spurminator]

Darrin on full attack like a good little soldier.

[ChumpDumper]

Darrin just regurgitating the party lines he's supposed to regurgitate.

[xrayzebra]

How long before they burn a police car or bus? Bust a few windows out of some
windows and loot a few stores.