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    Its also quite possible to apply regulations we already have on the books. Sherman anybody?
    Exactly what I'm in favor of doing. Use Sherman on the banks to break them up into small enough pieces, then get government out of their day to day operations. Less regulation overall.

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    And seriously, Nobody here is questioning the need for more oversight but, rather, the notion that questioning it at all is a problem.
    I never said it was anyone here nor did I say that anyone who questioned it feel into that category. I simply said that there are many conservatives who refuse to believe we need more regulation because they can't handle that it challenges their world view.

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    Exactly what I'm in favor of doing. Use Sherman on the banks to break them up into small enough pieces, then get government out of their day to day operations. Less regulation overall.
    How in the world is that less regulation overall? You're breaking up the banks!

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    Doesn't' it make sense that I would have thought about it in a way that would have supported my point? Doesn't make much sense otherwise.
    No it doesn't.

    I usually demand other fools back up their bs, but since you say your own thinking supports your lame ass (indeed, practically content free) generalization, I'll just take your word for it.

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    How in the world is that less regulation overall? You're breaking up the banks!
    And then I'm leaving them alone to make their own decisions and to deal with the consequences of those decisions. I get that we're going to disagree on this, but that scenario sure looks like less regulation to me than being involved in a bank's day to day business for all eternity.

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    No. I don't remember saying at all wishing the whole industry would collapse. I hope they take it on the chin regarding CDS because that is apparently the only way they'll move away from the an unregulated derivatives market. I don't remember ever saying that I hope it takes down our economy in the least.

    You took a of a lot of liberties with what I said and just ran with it. You did ask for clarification though.
    I wasn't trying to take liberties with what you said. I took hoping they would "fall and fall hard" to mean a collapse of the industry and our economy because that's exactly what would happen. You pick the TBTF but if someone like BofA "falls hard" at this time you can forget about the Lehman ripples through the industry, it'll be a tsunami.

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    I guess it doesn't make sense if you thought I was lying. I'll leave that up to the reader. If you and others think that I meant something else I can live with that. In the end I try to make sure that my conclusions are logical and at this time I feel satisfied they are. This is NOT to say that if you come to a different one it means you're not logical (which is not what I said above).

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    I wasn't trying to take liberties with what you said. I took hoping they would "fall and fall hard" to mean a collapse of the industry and our economy because that's exactly what would happen. You pick the TBTF but if someone like BofA "falls hard" at this time you can forget about the Lehman ripples through the industry, it'll be a tsunami.
    Fair enough

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    It's when we've been wrong that we need love the most.

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    I'm willing to revisit this thread at a later time as right now I don't agree I'm wrong, but I can say that having you, CG, and Teysha all saying to a varying degree that I am isn't taken without note.

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    it's clear you've remained oblvious

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    and that's ok

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    it's clear you've remained oblvious

    I'm gonna go ahead and apologize in advance for misreading the tone of this post too.

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    no blood, no foul

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    no blood, no foul, no intent

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    I dish it out so I'd better be able to take it but that doesn't mean I can't spot it.

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    you're the one who offered an empty generalization. all i did was point that out.

    that's a foul?

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    I'm willing to revisit this thread at a later time as right now I don't agree I'm wrong, but I can say that having you, CG, and Teysha all saying to a varying degree that I am isn't taken without note.
    I think you're wrong.

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    intent to foul?

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    i think you're just sore that you skinned your knee

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    the fact that we're discussing the pro and cons of more regulation at all in this thread clearly suggests to me that someone had a political axe to grind.

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    no biggie, just cop

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    Ah gad.

    The danger must be getting close -- it's being openly discussed...
    Sooooooo........are you giving the article your blessing tacitly?

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    not at all

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    the veracity of financial reporting can be greatly overstimated

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