Obama/Romney Town Hall: Who won?

[TeyshaBlue]

Fair enough. I do know that in the early 20th century there was a huge backlash against the oil and RR monopolies for these types of practices. Following WW2 the pendulum swung back in their favor.

Swing pendulum swing:



http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/domaindebate.html

Swing pendulum swing.

Yeah, I agree with your characterization here. And it certainly was an outright abuse of powers in the early 20th.

[DMC]

Fair enough. I do know that in the early 20th century there was a huge backlash against the oil and RR monopolies for these types of practices. Following WW2 the pendulum swung back in their favor.

Swing pendulum swing:


http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/domaindebate.html

Swing pendulum swing.

It's conservative thinking that giving big oil a free pass benefits Americans through trickle down of jobs and lower prices but a hundred billion in profit tells me they aren't playing by our rules.

[TeyshaBlue]

It's conservative thinking that giving big oil a free pass benefits Americans through trickle down of jobs and lower prices but a hundred billion in profit tells me they aren't playing by our rules.

Not really...at least this conservative certainly doesn't share that view in toto.

[TeyshaBlue]

And your characterization of profits is a bit off as well.

Big Oil built entire school systems in my neck of the woods.

[TeyshaBlue]

Big Wind is now doing much the same, tbh.

[DMC]

government owned oligarchs or those who own the asses of the politicians in DC will always get the first/biggest bite at the birthday cake imho. they're the ones who can always make profits despite the health of economy cuz the government will always ensure they're making profits, government is the puppet of those billionaire assholes which's a plain fact that a well-educated mid aged immigrant is supposed to know imho

The term "begs the question" isn't me asking a question, fyi. I know you just reached our shores not long ago (thanks for collecting the syringes and medical waste from the beach for your family's use btw but be careful with used syringes, we don't want to infect our HIV with Chinese H1N1.) but a brief search on the WC owned Google site will quickly show you the ins and outs of logical fallacies and that one is in there as "circular reasoning". Just an FYI from gwai lo.

[TeyshaBlue]

http://www.texastribune.org/library/...nding-schools/

[DMC]

Big Wind is now doing much the same, tbh.

I was waiting for someone to confuse "wind jobs" with "blow jobs". Just wait.

[TeyshaBlue]

I was waiting for someone to confuse "wind jobs" with "blow jobs". Just wait.

WC will be along shortly.

[DMC]

And your characterization of profits is a bit off as well.

Big Oil built entire school systems in my neck of the woods.

lol, no. Big profit built those schools and you pay for it at the pump on a weekly basis.

I'm just taking the top players into consideration.

[Latarian Milton]

The term "begs the question" isn't me asking a question, fyi. I know you just reached our shores not long ago (thanks for collecting the syringes and medical waste from the beach for your family's use btw but be careful with used syringes, we don't want to infect our HIV with Chinese H1N1.) but a brief search on the WC owned Google site will quickly show you the ins and outs of logical fallacies and that one is in there as "circular reasoning". Just an FYI from gwai lo.

be careful with quoting my post too tbh, don't you know that H1N1 can be transmitted via posts? i'd haste to a doctor for a thorough health check right now if i were you tbh

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And your characterization of profits is a bit off as well.

Big Oil built entire school systems in my neck of the woods.

This comes back to the ethics of the individuals involved. Post WW2 America was great --for whitey at least-- because the ethics of the people involved. I don't know when your schools were built but the modern American corporation is not too giving nowadays whereas you used to hear about corporate towns and the like. Instead they lobby for stuff like Kelo v New London so they get for free and put all their money into buying into SuperPACs.

Now I understand that is too broad of a characterization and not each and every one is like that. I am not boutox but from the history that I have read and talking to people that lived as adults in that era, things were quite different.

[TeyshaBlue]

lol, no. Big profit built those schools and you pay for it at the pump on a weekly basis.

I'm just taking the top players into consideration.

@ .18 a gallon (which is what it was when most of these schools were being built)? Not likely.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Big Wind is now doing much the same, tbh.

Which I am fine with because it's an emerging market. Just like the internet and telecom in the late 20th and even into today I get why investment makes sense.

Oil not so much. Allowing them to cir vent demand by just claiming ED is ed up.

[TeyshaBlue]

This comes back to the ethics of the individuals involved. Post WW2 America was great --for whitey at least-- because the ethics of the people involved. I don't know when your schools were built but the modern American corporation is not too giving nowadays whereas you used to hear about corporate towns and the like. Instead they lobby for stuff like Kelo v New London so they get for free and put all their money into buying into SuperPACs.

Now I understand that is too broad of a characterization and not each and every one is like that. I am not boutox but from the history that I have read and talking to people that lived as adults in that era, things were quite different.

I think it's fairly regional, tbh. I doubt the rust belt was very enamored of oil companies during that time while we were getting schools and teacher housing built down here.
And your contrast between corporate stewardship (such a lame term) is spot on. I don't really have a bone to pick there. It truly is a different world on some respects.

[TeyshaBlue]

Which I am fine with because it's an emerging market. Just like the internet and telecom in the late 20th and even into today I get why investment makes sense.

Oil not so much. Allowing them to cir vent demand by just claiming ED is ed up.

agreed.

[DMC]

@ .18 a gallon (which is what it was when most of these schools were being built)? Not likely.

So they weren't making a comparative profit then? How did they become so ing huge if they weren't raking in profit?

The school is paid for, but you're still paying them interest every week.

[TeyshaBlue]

agreed.

And I was speaking more to the tax rewards local communities were reaping from the windfall. *rimshot*

[TeyshaBlue]

So they weren't making a comparative profit then? How did they become so ing huge if they weren't raking in profit?

The school is paid for, but you're still paying them interest every week.

No, they were not making a comparative profit back then. But, they were making a profit in the end. It's the area between production and profit that oil companies used to spend more then than now.

And the answer to your question is spectacularly simple. They became ing huge because they have been profitable for 50-60-70 years.

[DMC]

be careful with quoting my post too tbh, don't you know that H1N1 can be transmitted via posts? i'd haste to a doctor for a thorough health check right now if i were you tbh

I ran Norton disk doctor. You're ok. It did detect a very high level of MSG however.

[LnGrrrR]

Regardless, there're lies told throughout these debates, from both parties. Fact-checking is consistently done after the debate, as well as multiple other resources for the curious voter to find out just what's what.

Eh, I have no problem with moderators playing referee. A lot of people won't stick around to watch the fact-checking after the fact.