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This thread's got me wonderin'.....if the Rockets need help at the one, I wonder if they'd consider James for Arroyo.
RE-RELEASE THE PIT BULLS!!
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This thread's got me wonderin'.....if the Rockets need help at the one, I wonder if they'd consider James for Arroyo.
RE-RELEASE THE PIT BULLS!!
It won't be a dynasty if Bowen's defense goes to because of age. Obviously you don't know about deteriation and James is the most underrated point guard ever the way it sounds here to me.
Ummm.. He's not TPark. So simmer down.
Let's pretend for a second that you do have a functioning neuron and that you're remotely right about Bowen going in the toilet, you've already admitted in this thread that the Spurs have two able replacements in Brown and Barry. Throw in Parker, Beno, along with Barry and Ginobili's ability to run the offense and there's no damn need for an extra ing point guard who was so damn great for the Rockets that they felt the need to get Luther Head.
Or there's the more likely scenario that you are wrong, and Bowen ages a little more gracefully than Christie, in which case the Spurs are right to hold on to him.
So which is it brick? Either you're right that we don't need Bowen and are dumb enough to think that the Spurs need a fifth point guard, or you're wrong about Bowen and this is a stupid trade. Pick your poison-either way you've proven that your head is hopelessly stuck up your ass.
I didn't say Mike James was so great but he was a big part of Houston's improvement from early on in the season to later on. Bowen might age better than Christie but it might not either. Beno and Barry are not good point guards if you consider Barry a defensive liability at point guard and Beno unable to hold on to the ball. Please stop giving Bowen so much credit because if it weren't for Ginobili, Duncan, and Parker that Bowen wouldn't get so much consideration. Just shut up now please.
How do you know James won't fade like any backup point guard over 30?How do you know Bowen won't fade like D. Christie?He only played 27 games for them in the regular season and was up and down in the playoffs.I didn't say Mike James was so great but he was a big part of Houston's improvement from early on in the season to later on.He already has.Bowen might age better than Christie but it might not either.He did before he ever got to San Antonio. Ask the Mike James' coach.Please stop giving Bowen so much credit because if it weren't for Ginobili, Duncan, and Parker that Bowen wouldn't get so much consideration.
Baby, he's a moron. Plain and simple. He wants to add another point guard. A bench player, at that. Who didn't produce much for his team. I watched several games, but even if I didn't, dude, I live in Houston and I watch the news. They needed a pg.
We need another 3, not because Bowen is going downhill (which leads to the question -did you watch any Spurs games? He's the most fit starter we have!), but because we want someone trained to do what he does.
But whatever. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, so keep blowing smoke out of your ass.
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Kori? Why would you say this is the worst thread ever? In addition to trading our premier perimeter defender and three point specialist in a position without great depth for a mediocre bench pg, we've also traded Tim Duncan for a box of rocks, Bowen for a sandwich, and wasn't there also a trade Manu in there somewhere?
Did I mention Sura being injured and how bad Houston would be without Jamea
Dude, Bowen was the most consistent player in the finals series. Did you watch it at all? He was a serious contender for finals MVP.
It's not about Bowen love, it's about reality. Clearly, you are watching sports in an alternate universe.
Now it's on like Donkey Kong, you short bus riding GM wannabe. First off, congratulations on realizing one decent fact. Mike James was a big reason for the Rockets finally getting their together, but that was more by default than anything else. Before him they had been managing .500 basketball without any real point guard to speak of. Any decent point guard could have managed that one.
And Bowen will age better than Christie. Christie has spent the last few seasons racking up injuries that have seriously slowed him down. Bruce, despite being older, hasn't missed a game in three years. He keeps himself in terrific shape and he isn't asked to really carry any of the offensive load. He's going to age just fine.
Beno is going to be a good point guard for the Spurs. People love to point at his struggles in finals as some sort of smoking gun but all that really happened was that a rookie point guard suddenly looked like a rookie point guard when the best damn defense in the league was thrown at him. It happens. Barry's D has been steadily improving, but it still has a ways to go when he's guarding PG's but you just managed to shoot yourself in the foot again. Because if you bothered to watch the finals a big reason the Spurs were able to keep Barry on the floor (which was a big key to their success in game 7, IMO) was because they could move Barry onto Prince and put who on the point guard? BRUCE BOWEN YOU STUPID ! So you're saying that we should trade someone who managed to do exactly what you seem to think that we need Mike James for.
And you're getting your wish. This will be my last post of the day. I'm going home to spend time with more intelligent life forms like my lovely wife-to-be, and our cat.
Sura was injured and they weren't great even with James. T-Mac is the main reason Houston kept afloat.
Is this thread for real or am I missing something?????
let this dumb thread die please.
Just like how great they were with Tyron Lue. You think James is just a backup point guard. I can tell you now Houston would not be the same without Mike James as the backup point guard. Mcgrady can't do everything and you dumb s think Mcgrady could you don't understand how important the point guard position is. Having a great backup is even better for a team like the spurs. This is not as lopsided as you think.
Yes it is.This is not as lopsided as you think.
is not.
I give up if all you wanna do is argue with me. You think Bowen will be the same in 2 years and James sucks huh. I tell you I am changing my mind about being a spurs fans due to people like you who refuse change. Ageing does funny things to players.
And James is already thirty.Ageing does funny things to players.If that's all it takes, you never were a fan in the first place.I tell you I am changing my mind about being a spurs fans due to people like you who refuse change.
"I tell you I am changing my mind about being a spurs fans due to people like you who refuse change. Ageing does funny things to players."......................................... ...............................Can we count on that?
He just turned thirty and I expect 4 solid years left for him.
What if you're wrong? I expect two solid years from Bowen. So what?He just turned thirty and I expect 4 solid years left for him.
I will eat crow than but I don't think Bowen will have 2 solid years left.
Why do you think that? Everyone knows that Bowen is getting older. That's why most people believe that they need to get a young small forward on the roster that can be Bowen-in-training (as opposed to a 6'2 backup PG). But what indicates to you that Bowen will plummet this season (or even the next)?
He is in better shape than any guy on the Spurs roster. He hasn't missed a start in 3 1/2+ seasons. Who else on the Spurs can say that? (hint: no one) Who else in the league can say that?
He ran with Rip Hamilton (probably the best conditioned guy in the league) in the Finals and he shut down Ray, Carmelo, Marion, Rip and Chauncey this postseason.
And I don't think James is going to start too many games.
All Bowen has done as a Spur is prove naysayers wrong. Considering this was a career year for him at 33, two years seems pretty likely.
I thought Doug Christie and Karl Malone were in great shape but injuries happen more often when players get older. The fact that Bowen relies so much on his defense isn't a good thing. Payton along with other great conditioned athletes thought they could last forever but Brown is capable of taking over that small forward position and I doubt Beno will ever turn into anything great because of not being athletic. I think I have a good point and people like Bowen too much to really agree with me.
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