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Yeah, Kawhi was a horrible pick...
sportsmanship ? GTFOH
If anything, both teams gotta have the SAME conditions. If SA had 4 days OFF like Miami and not 4 games in 5 nights, we would be watching Duncan, Parker, Manu and Green now. Pop is the coach. He decides who plays and who doesn't. Pop only had to do it in the 1st place because of this moronic NBA calendar.
SA did the same thing last season against Utah and Portland and Stern did not say a word about it. But because it's on national TV against Miami, Stern wants to make a fuss about it.
GS playing 5 rookies last season in order to guarantee a lottery pick was 100x worse and we did not hear a word about it.
Seriously, Stern is freaking pathetic.
Yeah, Kawhi was a horrible pick...
Yes he did. He let it slide because of the compressed schedule.
Stern truly believes the league is about stars, it's what his ego has led him to believe, it's what he sells. BUT, despite his threat to fine the Spurs BEFORE the game even happens, the Spurs without their stars are playing a compe ive game (so far). So if this is not about letting the fans see a compe ive game, then why the fine? Clearly due to the fact that he believes stars sell tickets, stars get ratings....not good basketball teams. The sad truth.
I'm sorry, but this argument can just as easily be used the other way. Should fans in attendance of a game be expecting the best product possible, or fans of the NBA product as a whole? Because if I'm a coach, and I think that playing my best players in a single game puts my team's overall performance for the season at risk (be it from injury or exhaustion), then you can say that resting those players is actually better for the overall product of NBA basketball.
I don't necessarily think either of those arguments holds more weight than the other. But sanctions of ANY kind in this situation is a really, really bad precedent and completely inconsistent with previous NBA precedents and communications.
It's epidemic up here now tbh. I don't really put much effort into my Spurs posts now because of it. It's mostly brain damaged takes or people that write long posts trying to sound smart but most of it is and you are left wondering why to took the time to read it.
Actually, Stern truly believes the league is about him.
Stern's always let it slide.
Pop did the same thing with Duncan and Manu on a home-away B2B back in 2005 on March 9th.
Sarver cried to the media about it and called the Spurs chicken.
And the Spurs have done it numerous times since then.
....Stern fined Riley $25K in '90 for resting Magic & Worthy.
Stern's putting himself on a pretty slippery slope here. He's done absolutely nothing to stop teams from tanking for draft picks. Teams (not just the Spurs) have chosen to sit players at various points in time. And, as many others have said, coaches have to have substantial discretion to determine who plays for their teams and how much those guys play.
Add to that the fact that he has no collectively bargained (or bylaw) authority to legislate how teams utilize their players and his threat here is going to have to be extremely well thought out if brought to execution.
Otherwise, he's either going to have a one-off rule tailored specifically to resolve his hissy fit about his prized team not being fully challenged on national TV or he's going to have a rule of universal enforcement that is basically going to make the commissioner's office an arbiter of lineup decisions.
If this was really a problem the league was concerned about, it had all summer to craft a rule to eliminate the problem.
I'm not crying about it.
Just want the players to compete. Back in the day there was no whining about being tired. Now all of sudden in the deepest team /considering playing time/ players are tired.
thats what im thinking no championship again for the Spurs 😥
Is what a selfish Spurs fan would say when it affects his team. But the to all those Miami fans who s ed out good money to attend the game. And while they thought they were in store for a possible NBA finals preview, instead, were treated to a glorified exhibition game. Yeah, Stern is the "only" one pissed off here.
David Stern can eat a , plain and simple.
If this game was so 'important' to Stern's game rigging, individual-focused, style over substance machine, then his schedule makers wouldn't have made this the last stop on San Antonio's road trip, their fourth game in five nights and facing a Heat team that hadn't played since Saturday.
Stern is just upset that he got caught with the 'green mist' on his face this time.
Worry more about fixing games, promoting mediocre talent and the fact that you've turned this 'sport' into a combination of the WWE and Jersey Shore you senile bas .
Last edited by Walton Buys Off Me; 11-29-2012 at 10:27 PM.
"The strategic resting of particular players on particular nights is within the discretion of the teams." - future NBA commish Adam Silver
By the way, big props to Craig Sager for putting the scheduling aspect of this to Stu Jackson.
yea it;s so easy to whine about schedule
going to be fun
It will be interesting to see what comes of it.
My guess is a suspension for Pop, that will then get reversed.
Side note: Red Rocket with 8 rebounds in a half? Say what?
Fascinating move by Pop. Clearly sending a message about the ridiculous scheduling. Obviously that is secondary to actually resting his guys, but it's there.
Stern, as a big-shot lawyer type, has got to know better. I'm sure he'll try to push his power in an extra-legal way. But he did say 'sanctions' instead of 'punishment'; I'm sure they'll try to change the rules about how and when players can be sat out of games. But I'm not sure that will fly with the owners (because they want to be able to tank, etc.). Will be interesting.
Poland is ready for a new meltdown tbh
Justice would be suspending those four for the Memphis game. They'll be well rested for Dec. 5th. Pop should be able to live with that.
Coaches have been strategically holding players out since the invention of basketball.
I've had Spurs season tickets for 13 years now and have bought tickets to any number of professional sporting events over the course of my lifetime. Every single time I buy a ticket, I do it with the knowledge that I'm not guaranteed to see the front line players for any team, for any number of reasons. The tickets themselves say that there's no guarantee of particular performers. If you buy tickets expecting that you're absolutely guaranteed to get to see the best players, you're foolish.
If you think that the need to placate fans by requiring teams to play their best players can be legislated from the league office, you're fighting against decades of precedent and a mountain of common sense.
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