NBA: All-Time Scorers Team

[Medvedenko]

% of points per minute shows how effective you are as a scorer over an entire career, while number of 40.50,60 and 80 point games shows the maximum output of a player in a freak occurrence situation. Sleepy Floyd once scored like 29 points in a quarter, doesn't make him a great scorer, but if Floyd averaged more points per minute than Kobe, then s yet, he would have been an insane scorer.

While Gervin may not be the best example from a points per min standpoint given he was a starter and main threat on his team. There a lot of guys that have a per 36 or per 24 mins ratios that beat most major scorers, that's not the point. If you have a better per min, than why aren't you playing a lot of mins? It may come down to coaching, other variables etc, however doesn't deem you to be the best scorer, maybe a more efficient one though. My point was defining what a pure scorer is, and efficiency is up there, however; dropping a load of 40 point games, consequitive 50 point affairs and having the ability of scoring a lot of points namely in the 70's or 80's one would deem that to be a "pure" scorer. I like the sleep Floyd arguement and I've seen that game. He was awesome and scored as a PG better than most in his time.

[ambchang]

If those players have a high per min and played enough minutes that those nbera were not flukes then they are great scorers. There really isn't any other way to interpret it.

A player doesn't play due to various reasons, they may be horrible in other aspects. Cedric ceballos is one such player.

If efficiency is one such measure Kobe and Ai will never be on any scorers list. Which is stupid.

[dunkman]

Magic
MJ
'Nique
K. Malone
Shaq

Zeke
Kobe
Bird
Nowitzki
Kareem (saw him past his prime in the 80's)

The Glove
AI
LeBron
Duncan
Hakeem

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I guess saying that Wilt will average 50 in today's NBA is foolish, 40 would be quite a stretch, as I think only Jordan and Kobe averaged anything close to that in the modern era, but saying Wilt will be a 32/15 type of player is not as outrageous as it sounds (with today's medicine and training). But I have always read your take as Wilt will be some kind of scrub that will just be another average center for some reason, and not a superstar player like Shaq, or even Howard.

I doubt there are people who actually believe Wilt will average 50ppg a season, if he goes Rodman and ignore all other aspects of the game, he may be able to average 20 rebounds though, Rodman was close enough at one point with 18+ rpg for two seasons, Wilt could possibly go 10/20, or even 15/20 if he goes out of his way to do it, like he would go out of his way to lead the league in assist to prove that he is a good passer (while proving he doesn't care about winning and is a total stat padder).

I think Wilt would certainly be a double-double player for his career even in today's league. My estimate would be in the general range of 24-28 PPG and 11-14 RPG during prime years. I most definitely don't believe he is a scrub or would be a scrub. I just think that when people say he is unquestionably the best center (and occasionally player) ever, its crap. He was putting up those insane numbers in a weak league and somehow only won 2 championships, and his second he wasn't even anywhere close to his prime and was on a ridiculously stacked team. He had entirely too many flaws to get those outright distinctions.

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Magic
MJ
'Nique
K. Malone
Shaq

Zeke
Kobe
Bird
Nowitzki
Kareem (saw him past his prime in the 80's)

The Glove
AI
LeBron
Duncan
Hakeem

This list must be a joke, to have Shaq, Magic, and GP rated so highly.

[dunkman]

This list must be a joke, to have Shaq, Magic, and GP rated so highly.

Name a center that was more prolific scorer then Shaq since mid 80's. Shaq won 2 ppg les and 3 total points les, with 5-6 seasons of around 29 ppg, 28,500 total points.

Or name a more prolific true PG's then Magic, Zeke and Payton since mid 80's.

I can't comment about players like Wilt, Baylor, Robertson, Dr. J, Hondo, West, Pistol Pete, Barry, Gervin M. Malone Kareem in their prime, because I didn't saw them play.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Name a center that was more prolific scorer then Shaq since mid 80's. Shaq won 2 ppg les and 3 total points les, with 5-6 seasons of around 29 ppg, 28,500 total points.

Or name a more prolific true PG's then Magic, Zeke and Payton since mid 80's.

I can't comment about players like Wilt, Baylor, Robertson, Dr. J, Hondo, West, Pistol Pete, Barry, Gervin M. Malone Kareem in their prime, because I didn't saw them play.

Zeke should definitely not be in that list. He's a 75% FT shooter and he has some serious Kobe like efficiency issues. He took 19 FGA to score a measly 22 ppg on his best scoring season.

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Name a center that was more prolific scorer then Shaq since mid 80's. Shaq won 2 ppg les and 3 total points les, with 5-6 seasons of around 29 ppg, 28,500 total points.

Or name a more prolific true PG's then Magic, Zeke and Payton since mid 80's.

I can't comment about players like Wilt, Baylor, Robertson, Dr. J, Hondo, West, Pistol Pete, Barry, Gervin M. Malone Kareem in their prime, because I didn't saw them play.

You apparently didn't read the initial post, which had nothing to do with being a prolific true PG, nor scoring totals.

It was a list of the most skilled scorers.

[DeadlyDynasty]

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