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    I don't think stats tell the whole story but it is amazing how well Garnett plays on a selfish team that looks for the first shot available. Garnett would average about 26 points a game on San Antonio and they would be world champions with him to. Do it. Trade Duncan
    So says the prophet of a parallel universe.
    [SARCASM]If Duncan plays on the Wolves, he would average 85ppg, 45 rpg, 16 assists per game, along with 15 blocks and 11 steals, shooting 92% from the field, and 70% from the line. The team will go 82-0 in the regular season and 16-0 in the playoffs.
    I know this because some guy told that to me in a dream.[/SARCASM]

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    I'm saying Minnesota is too selfish to give the ball to Garnett enough. They are always looking for their shots first. Garnett has to be pissed when they play that way. They are much better when Garnett gets more involved. San Antonio would not allow Duncan to be overlooked and therefore Garnett would be better in San Antonio.

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    He also see Garnett making imaginary 3's to win games for the Wolves as well, how Garnett is a 3pt threat to draw defenders towards him when all he did was saved a broken play by tossing in a 3pter at the end of a shot clock.
    Guy, he has no arguments, when he ran out of stats, he will use the "I speak the truth" argument.
    Your making up to try to get people to think different of me. I said 1 game Garnett hit a winning 3. Use quotes next time before you make up.

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    I'm saying Minnesota is too selfish to give the ball to Garnett enough. They are always looking for their shots first. Garnett has to be pissed when they play that way. They are much better when Garnett gets more involved. San Antonio would not allow Duncan to be overlooked and therefore Garnett would be better in San Antonio.
    I agree Garnett would make an excellent complimentary player, second fiddle if you will.

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    I agree Garnett would make an excellent complimentary player, second fiddle if you will.
    San Antonio was never a high scoring team around Duncan but had the perfect players in Ginobili and Parker. Could you imagine if Garnett who has had high scoring teams along with the defense of Bowen and Ginobili. 70+ wins next year.

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    Your making up to try to get people to think different of me. I said 1 game Garnett hit a winning 3. Use quotes next time before you make up.
    Me "making up "? It was in this very thread, post #63, that you said

    I ing hate the timberwolves but I've seen Garnett hit 3's at an end of a game in the playoffs to burn the Kings. So stop labeling me a t pup fan.
    and now you are going back to one 3 after I told you Garnett never made more than one 3 in the series?
    Lack of research and talking out of your behind got you into this mess, lying and attacks on my character is not going to get you out of this.
    BTW, how do you like them quotes?

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    I didn't say how many 3's but I was trying to make a point that nothing to do with Garnett being a 3 point specialist. I was saying he is capable of hitting a 3 late in the game and I should've made it singular and not plural.

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    San Antonio was never a high scoring team around Duncan but had the perfect players in Ginobili and Parker. Could you imagine if Garnett who has had high scoring teams along with the defense of Bowen and Ginobili. 70+ wins next year.

    Yes, if Garnett was added to the Spurs and play a complimentary role to Duncan, I can see this team winning 70+. But team chemistry issues may arise, and it is no guarantee. In other words, on paper, the team can win 70+ games, but then on paper, the 2004 Lakers could have done that and won the championship, but never did.

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    I didn't say how many 3's but I was trying to make a point that nothing to do with Garnett being a 3 point specialist. I was saying he is capable of hitting a 3 late in the game and I should've made it singular and not plural.
    Should have but didn't. I am glad that you admitted to posting crap you can't back up.

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    Yes, if Garnett was added to the Spurs and play a complimentary role to Duncan, I can see this team winning 70+. But team chemistry issues may arise, and it is no guarantee. In other words, on paper, the team can win 70+ games, but then on paper, the 2004 Lakers could have done that and won the championship, but never did.
    I was joking about that 70+ wins but of course you wouldn't get it.

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    Should have but didn't. I am glad that you admitted to posting crap you can't back up.
    It's funny how one mistake I made and all of a sudden I post crap. My memory got the best of me but I remember Garnett during the season hitting 3's late in games. It didn't happen as much last year but you get my point. I don't keep track of 82 games but I am sure he has done it more than once.

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    It's funny how one mistake I made and all of a sudden I post crap. My memory got the best of me but I remember Garnett during the season hitting 3's late in games. It didn't happen as much last year but you get my point. I don't keep track of 82 games but I am sure he has done it more than once.
    Now it's during the season? and you have to ask me why I claim you post crap? Backpeddling is just going to get you in worse shape.
    And what about malone having less 2nd and 3rd options around him than Duncan? Constantly changing the criteria of a winning team to belittle the accomplishments of Duncan.
    First starting off by saying Duncan got better scoring teammates than Malone, then went on the say Duncan got better defenders around him, then went on to say he got better one-on-one perimeter defenders like Bowen and Ginobili.
    You also never answered my question as to how can Bowen make the 1st defensive NBA when the NBA look at stats for defense and that Stockton is an overrated defender as a result.. (I also find it ironic how later on you said you look at stats to determine the value of a player)

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    Here is the answer to how you slanted my answers by exaggerating or leaving out something I said. My points all made sense if you went back for the answers. Duncan has better teammates than Malone and Garnett. Malone had good teammates but not as good as Duncan and Garnett had 1 year of good teammates but now they are old and injured.

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    Damn, I don't think people like you Spursdaone.

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    I am not here to make friends but to say how I feel about the nba players without getting influenced by other people. I feel Garnett is better. It is very close but I would give the edge to Garnett.

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    Here is the answer to how you slanted my answers by exaggerating or leaving out something I said. My points all made sense if you went back for the answers. Duncan has better teammates than Malone and Garnett. Malone had good teammates but not as good as Duncan and Garnett had 1 year of good teammates but now they are old and injured.
    Wooooo! Getting testy now. You play with fire you gonna get burned. If you come in a troll around, you expect to get your ass handed to you on a silver platter.
    Where did I leave you posts out, when I quote you, I quote whole paragraphs, sentences, and in most cases, whole posts.
    How could Garnett, with all-star Sprewell, Cassell and Wally, have better teammates than Duncan, who only had ONE all-star teammate during the 3 le runs (none in 99 and 03, one in 05). How Malone had worse teammates when his sidekick (you could argue Malone is Stockton's sidekick) is John Stockton, the NBA all time assists and steals leader?
    The best teammate Duncan had in 99 was an aging David Robinson. And as much as I love David Robinson, he clearly lost a step in that year.
    His best teammate in 03 was either an even older and less effective Robinson, or a rookie point guard from France.
    In 05, his best sidekick was Ginobili, a first time all star, who averaged 16 ppg in the regular season, and his 20.8 points in the playoffs shoved him in the spotlight.
    How are ANY of these players better than Stockton? And even though you can make an argument Manu was better than Sprewell, Sczerbiak and Cassell, how can you argue the 99, and particularly 03 season?
    The fact is Duncan made his teammates better, and carried the team on his shoulders to 3 championships, where Garnett and Malone, despite having good teammates, was never able to earn their trust and lead by example in terms of team basketball to earn any championships.

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    So Robinson was old and sucked and Ginobili is no star while Stockton is the greatest player ever. Good points. I hope you write a book about the all star team of Minnesota getting to the western conference despite Garnett. Here is a taste of your own medicine.

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    I also enjoy having fights since it is a long summer before basketball starts and nothing better to do than argue with fans.

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    So Robinson was old and sucked and Ginobili is no star while Stockton is the greatest player ever. Good points. I hope you write a book about the all star team of Minnesota getting to the western conference despite Garnett. Here is a taste of your own medicine.
    Where have I said Robinson sucked and Ginobili is no star? Where did I say Stockton is the greatest player ever (although he is one of them)?
    And what tastes of what medicine? Quote me on it, go ahead, quote me.
    You said Duncan had better teammates than Garnett and Malone, and you NEVER backed it up, not once.

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    When Garnett hits his first big shot in the Finals give me a call.

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    Kori please close this thread.

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    Where have I said Robinson sucked and Ginobili is no star? Where did I say Stockton is the greatest player ever (although he is one of them)?
    And what tastes of what medicine? Quote me on it, go ahead, quote me.
    You said Duncan had better teammates than Garnett and Malone, and you NEVER backed it up, not once.
    I'll give credit to Duncan that he took advantage of having good teammates and a coach who is great. I doubt Flip could do as well as Pop. You don't know how good Garnett could be if the chemistry was right. An example is early on in Jordan's career where he couldn't take his team that far but he dominated statistically. Later on in his career he had the right chemistry at its prime and he won 6 championships. I feel Garnett has a team that has talent but no chemistry and that has to be considered. This is not a knock on Duncan but how great Garnett can be on the right team.

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    I'll give credit to Duncan that he took advantage of having good teammates and a coach who is great. I doubt Flip could do as well as Pop. You don't know how good Garnett could be if the chemistry was right. An example is early on in Jordan's career where he couldn't take his team that far but he dominated statistically. Later on in his career he had the right chemistry at its prime and he won 6 championships. I feel Garnett has a team that has talent but no chemistry and that has to be considered. This is not a knock on Duncan but how great Garnett can be on the right team.
    You are right, I don't know how well Garnett would do in the Spurs system, and neither could you. "What you feel" is not a valid argument, because I can't use your imagination and go on trajectory about how good Garnett COULD be if certain things happen, and if I use the same line of thought, I could say that if Duncan was scientist, he could have invented cure for cancer and AIDS all in the same week, but there is absolutely NOTHING to back up that claim.
    I find it amusing how you put Garnett in an imaginary world and proclaim that he is better than Duncan because of that, while ignoring what actually happened in the real world.
    The fact is Garnett never won anything with all-star teammates around him, and a valid argument could be made that he couldn't make his teammates good enough to win a championship.
    For the rest of the posters here, I apologize for hogging space, but I can't stand ignorance and trolls posting as Spurs fans.

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    No TD can't add more to his game. He has peaked, just like Manu.

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