Injury Thread: Tony Parker's Anke (Update: Out 4 weeks)

[DrunkTXLabrat]

terrible news, but i think the spurs will be alright. i think it's huge opportunity for nando and kawhi. i imagine nando pickin up the slack in assists, and kawhi in the points.

this also sets the stage for a mills/cojo backup battle. mills player option fate will be decided.

also wanna chime in on pops minute and injury hounding posters. it's a good strategy. yeah injuries happen, but less minutes = less risk of happen = less risk of injury. plus nando and mills are not so rusty. that's a bonus too.

[mercos]

The Spurs are lucky this happened now, instead of before the Rodeo Road Trip. A home heavy schedule will ease the loss of Parker. It doesn't hurt that Manu just had a 15 assist night. I would think the choice is between starting him at point, or going with De Colo. Nando has played well when he started. The only problem with starting Ginobili is that then we would have no bench.

I honestly believe they can hold on to the number one spot even if Parker misses the rest of the regular season. He has been our best player, but unlike the Clippers, the Spurs are not overly reliant on him. As long as Manu doesn't get hurt as well over this stretch, we still have an all world playmaker. I am very confident that Tiago Splitter and Kawhi Leonard can pick up the scoring slack left by Parker's absence. Those two have needed more touches for some time, and now they are going to get them.

[HarlemHeat37]

While I agree that the Spurs need to be less reliant on Parker, how exactly would any potential success without him translate to subsequent games following his return?..

Parker is a ball-dominant player, as are all top PGs..when he's on the floor, the rest of the team compliments his game, not the other way around..

[capek]

While I agree that the Spurs need to be less reliant on Parker, how exactly would any potential success without him translate to subsequent games following his return?..

Parker is a ball-dominant player, as are all top PGs..when he's on the floor, the rest of the team compliments his game, not the other way around..

Well, we have a very recent reminder of the tendency this team has developed this season to rely on Parker in crunch time to make buckets, and forget about the ball movement. The Phoenix game? Not having Parker on the court for a few weeks, if nothing else, will force the rest of the team to rely more on ball movement even late in games, experience which should stick around once Parker gets back.

[BatManu20]

Dropping out of 1st isn't the worst thing in the world if it means playing HOU/UTAH in the first round instead of a hot Laker team tbh.

Assuming he comes back a week or two before the RS ends, I agree with those saying that this could be a blessing in disguise. This team, particularly Manu/TD/Kawhi, need to learn how to win without TP setting everything up for them.

I think the Lakers make the 7th seed and we end up playing them in the 1st round anyways. They have a pretty easy schedule coming up in their next 15 games outside of a couple and I have zero faith in Houston and Utah to keep winning.

[jestersmash]

While I agree that the Spurs need to be less reliant on Parker, how exactly would any potential success without him translate to subsequent games following his return?..

Parker is a ball-dominant player, as are all top PGs..when he's on the floor, the rest of the team compliments his game, not the other way around..

Parker draws so much attention that our complementary role players can afford to be a little bit "sloppy," in a sense, when making plays off the ball.

Our secondary ball handlers are quite a bit more inferior/ineffective compared to Tony in terms facilitating (Manu, De Colo, Mills, Neal, you name it) which leaves far less wiggle room for our other guys playing off the ball.

Without Tony, you have to set cleaner screens, your positioning on the roll (off a pick and roll) has to be more optimal, your timing on passes has to be a little bit more crisp because the defense isn't nearly as worried of De Colo or Neal with the ball versus Tony Parker.

I mean this is all speculation of course, but it feels almost miraculous when De Colo, for example, successfully assists against a competent defense, given that he's such a non-threat to score. The timing/precision of his passes has to be absolutely on point.

[Mugen]

Looked a lot like Aaron Brook's injury against us a couple of years back. I believe he was diagnosed to be to 4-6 weeks and missed around 5 weeks.

[HarlemHeat37]

Well, we have a very recent reminder of the tendency this team has developed this season to rely on Parker in crunch time to make buckets, and forget about the ball movement. The Phoenix game? Not having Parker on the court for a few weeks, if nothing else, will force the rest of the team to rely more on ball movement even late in games, experience which should stick around once Parker gets back.

True, but this will require Ginobili and Duncan to draw the opposing defense and opening the floor for the rest of the guys..are they still capable of performing at that level?..they both failed in clutch time vs. Phoenix as well, it wasn't just Parker's impact that was negated..

I excluded Kawhi, because it appears that the Spurs are still hesitant to let him create in clutch moments..

[superjames1992]

Pshhhh, that guy can't stay healthy to save his life. He is also 36 and past his prime

Apparently, Tony can't stay healthy either, getting injured so close to the playoffs, smh.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

While I agree that the Spurs need to be less reliant on Parker, how exactly would any potential success without him translate to subsequent games following his return?..
Parker is a ball-dominant player, as are all top PGs..when he's on the floor, the rest of the team compliments his game, not the other way around..

disagree.

i think the team compliments each other more than any one player compliments the team.

imo, that's the benefit of having a coach that's just as important as a big time player.

[Mugen]

True, but this will require Ginobili and Duncan to draw the opposing defense and opening the floor for the rest of the guys..are they still capable of performing at that level?..they both failed in clutch time vs. Phoenix as well, it wasn't just Parker's impact that was negated..

I excluded Kawhi, because it appears that the Spurs are still hesitant to let him create in clutch moments..

I'm hoping TP's absence benefits Kawhi more than anybody else. I'm not expecting Manu/TD to carry this team for an extended period of time as I just don't think they're physically capable of doing it anymore. But if TP's not around, then I think Pop is forced to call more plays for Leonard where he can be a playmaker and not have to rely on TP breaking down the defense. Such experience could prove to be invaluable when TP is inevitably slowed by longer defenders in the playoffs.

This team isn't getting past the WCF if Kawhi doesn't play like a borderline all-star in the playoffs tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Parker draws so much attention that our complementary role players can afford to be a little bit "sloppy," in a sense, when making plays off the ball.

Our secondary ball handlers are quite a bit more inferior/ineffective compared to Tony in terms facilitating (Manu, De Colo, Mills, Neal, you name it) which leaves far less wiggle room for our other guys playing off the ball.

Without Tony, you have to set cleaner screens, your positioning on the roll (off a pick and roll) has to be more optimal, your timing on passes has to be a little bit more crisp because the defense isn't nearly as worried of De Colo or Neal with the ball versus Tony Parker.

I mean this is all speculation of course, but it feels almost miraculous when De Colo, for example, successfully assists against a competent defense, given that he's such a non-threat to score. The timing/precision of his passes has to be absolutely on point.

I agree with all of this, but my point is that I don't think the rest of the team is going to gain useful experience or discover any new internal qualities without Parker..

The only silver lining is that Parker could get some needed rest, and that this may force Duncan/Ginobili to play with more aggression..this could determine whether Ginobili can still reach another level of play and could gauge Kawhi's responsibility level in the playoffs..

[Sean Cagney]

Apparently, Tony can't stay healthy either, getting injured so close to the playoffs, smh.

Eh he has stayed alot healthier than Manu! Manu gets hurt every other week or so. Tony is also in his prime years, Manu is almost 36 years old now so how the is he going to lead us to a le? He is not near what he was in 05-08 or so. Tony did get hurt, but he doesn't get hurt a whole lot nor miss playoff series etc.

I agree with all of this, but my point is that I don't think the rest of the team is going to gain useful experience or discover any new internal qualities without Parker..

The only silver lining is that Parker could get some needed rest, and that this may force Duncan/Ginobili to play with more aggression..this could determine whether Ginobili can still reach another level of play and could gauge Kawhi's responsibility level in the playoffs..

See this is what I want to see, if Ginobili can still get near his older level and if Kawhi has more in him like we know he does! This is the part of me that is excited to see what they can do. Tony is hurt and thats that, now lets try to see positives from it .

[hater]

lol all you weenies calling doom y'all are weak. especially harlem, dude acts like he knows basketball since basketball is his life you'd think he'd be more knowledgeable

hater wrong bout dem injuries per par


would be ironic if TP ends up missing more games than Manu, tbh

ball moves better when manu is running the PG spot anyways...

ing morons. probably never played a sport in their life





here's to TP somehow getting better quick

[capek]

True, but this will require Ginobili and Duncan to draw the opposing defense and opening the floor for the rest of the guys..are they still capable of performing at that level?..they both failed in clutch time vs. Phoenix as well, it wasn't just Parker's impact that was negated..

I excluded Kawhi, because it appears that the Spurs are still hesitant to let him create in clutch moments..

My observation from that game was that it was more about the team 'forgoing' the system in favor of the more direct one on one approach. So in my eyes it's not about any one player being able to do this or that, but the whole team playing within the system, making the extra pass, etc. Now, it still begs the question, when the opposing team gets really tough and plays hard on defense, can this system hold up? It didn't do so well in the WCFs, but then again a lot of our role players shrunk, Tiago couldn't hit his free throws, we had trouble getting stops, and of course Harden going vintage Manu on our asses.

I'm just looking for a bright spot here, and it's that without Tony for a few weeks, the team will have no choice but to rely more on the system, which hopefully will pay dividends in the playoffs when we get into those tough games where the opposing team is playing really tough defense.

[hater]

I'm with pego on this one, tbh... dramatic cliff jumping is dramatic...

MRI tomorrow probably... we'll know more then

[KaiRMD1]

My belief is that now the real season begins

[ElNono]

ing morons. probably never played a sport in their life

takes never stop

pretending anybody here can be compared to professional athletes...

brah, go back to celebrate Spurs' players injuries... that's your thing

[capek]

I agree with all of this, but my point is that I don't think the rest of the team is going to gain useful experience or discover any new internal qualities without Parker..

The only silver lining is that Parker could get some needed rest, and that this may force Duncan/Ginobili to play with more aggression..this could determine whether Ginobili can still reach another level of play and could gauge Kawhi's responsibility level in the playoffs..

I don't get this. So you don't think Kawhi got anything from that Chicago game? Your important players sit, which means there's more minutes and responsibility for other players, which means that get more court time, which means at the end of the day they have more experience than the would otherwise have had. For professional basketball players at this level, more court time can only be a good thing. If they don't end up taking advantage of it, well they weren't going to help the team much anyways when it matters in the playoffs. But for Mills, De Colo, maybe CoJo, and probably Kawhi because he'll get more offensive touches, not having Tony for a few weeks has to change their mindset. De Colo I'm a little iffy on at this point, but I think Mills because of his NT experience, and Kawhi because he's a bad ass, will respond well to having more responsibility but on their shoulders.

[ElNono]

looked very bad. TP has a huge pain tolerance, so seeing him wince in pain is very troubling

I'm with pego on this one, tbh... dramatic cliff jumping is dramatic...

[timvp]

For the worst case scenario-ers out there, playoffs start in seven weeks. Obviously the Spurs are in big trouble if the prognosis is in the 6+ week range.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't get this. So you don't think Kawhi got anything from that Chicago game? Your important players sit, which means there's more minutes and responsibility for other players, which means that get more court time, which means at the end of the day they have more experience than the would otherwise have had. For professional basketball players at this level, more court time can only be a good thing. If they don't end up taking advantage of it, well they weren't going to help the team much anyways when it matters in the playoffs. But for Mills, De Colo, maybe CoJo, and probably Kawhi because he'll get more offensive touches, not having Tony for a few weeks has to change their mindset. De Colo I'm a little iffy on at this point, but I think Mills because of his NT experience, and Kawhi because he's a bad ass, will respond well to having more responsibility but on their shoulders.

Yes, I do, but as I pointed out earlier, Kawhi's confidence is already high..he will get more touches with Parker out, but he will revert back to his current role once TP returns..the Chicago game allowed Kawhi to expand his role and display his versatility..Leonard is the only player outside of the big 3 that has the ability to play more than a supporting role, though..

De Colo, for example, has displayed intriguing potential in a starting role, because he's forced to exert more aggression..once De Colo returned to his bench role, he lost his aggressive streak and reverted back to his shaky and inconsistent game..evidently, he has not effectively translated any of his gained confidence and aggression from those starting gigs to his usual bench role..

[ElNono]

I think we have a good stretch of games at home, IIRC... that should help too

[Mugen]

Typical SPHAM tbh.

Spurs Players Hurt After March.

[BatManu20]

At least OKC lost tonight to Denver. And Lol at Ty Lawson for doing the Bernie after hitting the GW shot.