How Do You See the Glass After Game 4?

[MannyIsGod]

Half empty, GS played awful and won.

Except they didn't play awful. They played an awful half, but by what measure would you consider how well the dominated the glass an awful game?

[emanueldavidginobili]

This game was right in our hands, a hobbled Curry Bogut 3 fouls in the 1st Q Manu with 4 3s at half a chance to go back to SA up 3-1 and they still manage to literally choke away the game. Gary Neal sucks, he can't play D he's a jacker undersized slow. CJ should get those minutes. 42 minutes for Tim? Really Pop and still were force feeding it to him at the end of the game when clearly he was gassed. We stopped sharing the ball the last 10 minutes of that game was god awful. KL looks so tentative on the offensive end its not even funny. We are tied up with a team that has 3!!!! ROOKIES in their playoff rotation. Jarret ing Jack does it again. Spurs need to get nasty like Pop said last year they need to send a message, where's the pride? That overtime was the worst OT game I've seen there's just no excuses for that in such a big game. I'll say half full though. I still have faith in this team.

[MannyIsGod]

My only worry is that the Spurs won't have time to recover their legs and that they'll get even more tired with the travel coming up. Its a legit worry looking at how bad they looked down the stretch, but we'll see how it plays out.

[KaiRMD1]

That was a full empty OT period, that's for sure

[Keepin' it real]

Definitely half full. I hope every Spurs' series goes 7 games. Gives me more games to watch. There's nothing more miserable than the long-ass weeks between the end of the Spurs' season and the start of the NFL season. So extend every Spurs series as long as possible. Entertain me!

[therealtruth]

This isn't fun because it shouldn't be nearly this big a struggle against a team this mediocre. If this were a one off, maybe you don't read too much into it, but they've now done this three of the last four playoffs.

The Celtics and Lakers, the other two veteran, savvy, former champions, I don't ever remember doing this in series they were heavily favored in. In fact, the only series I can think of where one almost did, was the Hawks taking the Celtics to 7 in '08. But in fairness, it was the big three's first playoff series together. The Spurs have no such excuse, yet here they are again, hanging on for dear life against a mediocre team, proving all those who constantly insinuate that they're vulnerable, soft and just not that good, right.

That's one thing that has always bugged me about Pop. He can't handle expectations. The Spurs have created high expectations the past several season and whimpered out. Instead of accepting that their favorites and that they should win, you get the feeling Pop thinks it all comes down to who makes shots. It's a genius way to deflect attention from the coaching. When other coaches fail to get their team ready or drop a lead they accept responsibility and say it's on them. It's their fault and they will do better. Pop never admits that. It's always the team's fault. If the coach refuses to be accountable how can the players?

[Borosai]

Half empty, and that's not based on this game or this series. That's based on the body of work this team has put together over the past few years. Lots of wins followed by embarrassing playoff exits.

It's up to them to raise expectations again.

[Sean Cagney]

The glass I see in front of me is a 40 oz bottle tonight. It is down now but it was half full at one point! I hope we do this here.

Half empty, and that's not based on this game or this series. That's based on the body of work this team has put together over the past few years. Lots of wins followed by embarrassing playoff exits.

It's up to them to raise expectations again.

I agree FULLY! IT IS UP TO THEM! If they want it bad enough they can do it, if not forget it they bowed out again early with HC.

[100%duncan]

Full. Spurs in 6.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Half full. I think the first game and a half of series Golden State was playing at a level that they could not maintain. The last two and half games have given us a better idea of how this series should be. We took game three and had a chance to win game four. We've got two out of three next games at home with an experienced playoff team. I'd say we in good shape.

[siraulo23]

The Warriors arent that good and the Spurs arent that good with a limited tp, it was just horrible luck when he seem to be finally getting healthy he gets hit by another injury. I guess it could be worse

As far as game 4 is concerned, the Spurs relaxed when they had that 8 pt lead late in the 4th, there was just no sense of urgency...

[TDfan2007]

I'm neutral.

Duncan is gassed, Parker is hurt, Kawhi can't hit an outside shot to save his life, Splitter has regressed to full-on vagina mode, and our guys just pissed a very winnable game away.

With all that said, we barely lost while putting forth one of the worst offensive performances in Spurs playoff history, and we have 2 of 3 at home.

This series can go either way. We're the better team, but the Warriors clearly want it more and have more confidence/momentum than our guys.

I'm just very disappointed by the lack of poise shown by our guys tonight. They pissed away a big lead on two separate occasions and almost got shut out in OT. Maddeningly poor performance tbh

[Johnny RIngo]

Spurs probably win this series but I have no faith in this team for the future rounds. Parker will not lead the team through adversity. The injury excuse will come up though, which should help the TP fans stay sober when he gets shut down against Memphis. Duncan needed that extra rest from a short Warriors series to prepare for Memphis. Right now, it's looking like Memphis will be the team that will be well-rested against us as we struggle to close out the Warriors in seven. Manu can't shoot anymore - the one game he does manage to shoot straight we lose. Our role players are disappearing. Hard to win playoff games when you regularly expect 10 points from guys like Splitter and Neal and they come up empty in just about every playoff game thus far. I was really looking forward to SA getting revenge against Memphis but I don't see that happening anymore. Conference Finals is our ceiling when it should have been the Finals in this weak Western Conference.

[Johnny RIngo]

As far as game 4 is concerned, the Spurs relaxed when they had that 8 pt lead late in the 4th, there was just no sense of urgency...

Manu and Duncan carried us that first half. We needed more from TP and everybody else in those last two quarters. Disappointing to say the least....especially watching the Spurs go to a tired Duncan time and time again in that fourth.

[siraulo23]

Manu and Duncan carried us that first half. We needed more from TP and everybody else in those last two quarters. Disappointing to say the least....especially watching the Spurs go to a tired Duncan time and time again in that fourth.

definitely, tp is limited but i thought he missed an obvious pass to green who was wide open for 3 and also missed manu one time during the stretch where they blew the 8 pt lead

and yes spurs need role players to step up, kawhi's playing decent but the spurs need his 3 pt shooting.

The spurs need easy baskets to score over 100 vs the warriors, theyhave to go back to pushing the ball offensively rather than slowing it down and playing against gsw's half court defense

[temujin]

Three quarters empty.

1) The supporting cast is mediocre.
It's hidden by the RS system, by playing bad teams.
When it matters, you get a bit of defense here and there, a quarter by Diaw, another by Green. Nothing from Splitter and Bonner (surprise!).
That's it.
Watching Leonard and rookie Barnes in the 4th and OT yesterday was painful.

2) Playing every two days, and OTs, is gassing the oldies.
Ginobili and Parker were terrible after G1: they played 40' and 37' yesterday. And Duncan 43'.
Good luck with their production in G5 tomorrow. And 6G back in Oakland on Thursday.

3) Spurs did not win the rebounding battle in any game, including the victories.
First half yesterday was pretty bad.

4) Pop is being outcoached by Jackson. Yesterday, he looked totally lost in the 4th and OT. Joseph does a great job on Jack? He sits and watches Jack going off.

5) As for HCA, it might be relevant for GS in Oakland. The SA crowd, seriously, gives nothing to the home team.

6) No Bowen, no Horry, no Jackson. This team is soft.

[chapnis]

Gotta be half full otherwise no point in supporting the team.

[temujin]

Harrison Barnes was 9-26 from the field with 4 turnovers..how is he killing the Spurs?..

And Klay Thompson goes off when he's wide open, it has nothing to do with the location of the games..if you watch game 2 again, about 11 of his 13 makes were open shots..

He hasn't done anything noteworthy since Leonard has been guarding him, tbh..

Harrison barnes is a heck of player.
A rookie no less.

He was bricking when it DIDnt' really matter, because his teammates were getting a LOT of the rebounds off his misses.
When it mattered, he went 5-6.
The time is NOT linear, there are moments in games which are MORE important, just like there are moments in our lives that are more important than others.

[temujin]

Duncan and Ginobili getting older surely isn't helping Spurs but I would say that the turning point has been Bruce leaving. Since that, Spurs haven't really been able to find a true and strong iden y (aside of the end of last season).

This.

[mudyez]

100% half full!...meaning 50% half full.

I'm a Spurs fan, not a Lakers fan. So everyday is a half FULL day!

[crc21209]

Half full. The Spurs defense has come around the last 2 games, now if we could only get the offense to come back also. The Spurs were up 80-72 when genius Pop decided to put Neal on Jack, which then lead a Jack 6-0 run and everything went downhill after that. I was fine with Neal on Barnes because Barnes shot like crap today and isn't very skilled or experienced in the post...

[crc21209]

Three quarters empty.

1) The supporting cast is mediocre.
It's hidden by the RS system, by playing bad teams.
When it matters, you get a bit of defense here and there, a quarter by Diaw, another by Green. Nothing from Splitter and Bonner (surprise!).
That's it.
Watching Leonard and rookie Barnes in the 4th and OT yesterday was painful.

2) Playing every two days, and OTs, is gassing the oldies.
Ginobili and Parker were terrible after G1: they played 40' and 37' yesterday. And Duncan 43'.
Good luck with their production in G5 tomorrow. And 6G back in Oakland on Thursday.

3) Spurs did not win the rebounding battle in any game, including the victories.
First half yesterday was pretty bad.

4) Pop is being outcoached by Jackson. Yesterday, he looked totally lost in the 4th and OT. Joseph does a great job on Jack? He sits and watches Jack going off.

5) As for HCA, it might be relevant for GS in Oakland. The SA crowd, seriously, gives nothing to the home team.

6) No Bowen, no Horry, no Jackson. This team is soft.

Seriously? You've obviously never been to a Spurs Playoff home game then. The crowd gets a of alot louder than they do in the regular season that's for sure. And IIRC, they were pretty damn loud during Game 1 and 2 of this series...

[EricB]

Hoping it would be different this year, but this is looking more and more like another playoff collapse/meltdown. The 3-point overtime is a very bad sign. The stench of quit and softness is apparent.

Yeah the less than 48 hour turnaround had zero to do with it. Assclown.

[objective]

just about fully empty.

I was pleasantly surprised that Pop went back to Splitter to start game 3, but not surprised by the other things he did, like playing Neal so much. Also, the team would be better served with 3 minutes of McGrady as a smallball 4 than 3 minutes of Bonner.

It's a nice regular season team.

They will be closed out in a blowout like Dallas was in 07.

[TJastal]

Three quarters empty.

1) The supporting cast is mediocre.
It's hidden by the RS system, by playing bad teams.
When it matters, you get a bit of defense here and there, a quarter by Diaw, another by Green. Nothing from Splitter and Bonner (surprise!).
That's it.
Watching Leonard and rookie Barnes in the 4th and OT yesterday was painful.

2) Playing every two days, and OTs, is gassing the oldies.
Ginobili and Parker were terrible after G1: they played 40' and 37' yesterday. And Duncan 43'.
Good luck with their production in G5 tomorrow. And 6G back in Oakland on Thursday.

3) Spurs did not win the rebounding battle in any game, including the victories.
First half yesterday was pretty bad.

4) Pop is being outcoached by Jackson. Yesterday, he looked totally lost in the 4th and OT. Joseph does a great job on Jack? He sits and watches Jack going off.

5) As for HCA, it might be relevant for GS in Oakland. The SA crowd, seriously, gives nothing to the home team.

6) No Bowen, no Horry, no Jackson. This team is soft.

Pop is just outcoaching himself as per par. The never ending beef with Splitter and propensity to bench him every time he starts to get it going...
the absolute refusal to unleash his only physical rebounder (Baynes) all season...in a series where the spurs are getting eviscerated on the boards...The unending love affair with Bonner and Neal even when its clear matchups don't favor them....yada yada same different year