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    LOL, an Italian talking .

    If there's one thing Italy is good at, it's losing. Tbh...

    Italy hasn't won since the fall of the Roman Empire, tbh...



    Well, you all did beat Ethiopia in 1935-1936 after losing against the tribesmen in the 1890s.

    Steamrolled by Austria-Hungary in 1918.

    -slapped by the Greeks until the Germans bailed your asses out in 1941.

    Crushed by the British until Rommel temporarily saved the day in 1941-1943.

    Knocked out of World War II in 1943.
    As Opposed to the French, who got ed slapped twice by the Germans and needed over 100,000 US soliders in two World War's to die on their soil just to save their sorry lazy asses. They needed us to save their asses in Vietnam but at the end of the day we were like enough of this . Just to let you know, that is why the French Government hates us. We lost Vietnam for them, which was their richest province at the time. Since then they have voted against US interests in almost every UN Resolution. Bunch of lazy ass MF's who can't fight their own wars. Napoleon (who is actually Italian ironically) is the only saving grace the French has had in their history and probably Voltaire and the age of Enlightenment.

    Italians ruled half the civilized world for 500 years to claim to their history and the Renaissance.

    Both Italians and French for past 100 years + are more noted for Car Designs, Fashion, Wine, Food, etc., not their Military might. So its funny that you would dog them and yet defend Frenchies as well and still promote European Int'l Intelligence as a whole. So if Italians are excluded from this, wouldn't the French be as well. This is a pure example of the pot calling the kettle black.
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    De Colo was 3rd worst in the league among guards for TO% for guards who played at least as many minutes as him.

    And he was only third because one of the other two nearly posted an all time worst TO% for guards.


    I'm glad De Colo is looking like now, that means less chance of being on the team where he absolutely doesn't belong. Dude is in awful like I was saying throughout last year.
    Out of 127, from worst to best
    1) Jamaal Tinsley
    2) Pablo Prigioni
    3) Nando De Colo, ok point made ...

    4) Rajon Rondo, hmmm
    5) Ricky Rubio

    19) Will Bynum
    20) Manu Ginobili
    21) Jrue Holiday

    70) Courtney Lee
    71) Tony Parker
    72) Louis Williams

    100) Wesley Matthews
    101) Marco Belinelli
    102) Marquis Daniels

    112) Joe Johnson
    113) Gary Neal
    114) Gerald Henderson

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    Out of 127, from worst to best
    1) Jamaal Tinsley
    2) Pablo Prigioni
    3) Nando De Colo, ok point made ...

    4) Rajon Rondo, hmmm
    5) Ricky Rubio

    19) Will Bynum
    20) Manu Ginobili
    21) Jrue Holiday

    70) Courtney Lee
    71) Tony Parker
    72) Louis Williams

    100) Wesley Matthews
    101) Marco Belinelli
    102) Marquis Daniels

    112) Joe Johnson
    113) Gary Neal
    114) Gerald Henderson
    Notice too how there's a huge gap between where Nando is and where guys just a few spaces below him are, while the gap between 7 and 40 is the same as between him at 3 and the guy at 7. The gap between him and being out of the top 10 is about the same as #11 and Parker way down at 71.

    There's a high e in TOV% at the top. Rubio and Rondo didn't play complete seasons, so it's not too surprising to see their incomplete season percentages high if they started out worse than usual. Not to mention their TOV%'s are higher because their USG% and AST%'s are a lot higher than Nando's (almost the same as their TOV% which means they're just turning it over about as much as the rest of the team, with AST% way higher than their TOV% and USG%). De Colo has a low and a high TOV% without the AST% to make up for it, which greatly magnifies how bad it is. (23.7% TOV%, 17.1 USG%, 20.6 AST% which means he commits about 1/4th of the team's turnovers while getting only 1/5th of their assists while having the ball about 1/6th of the time.

    Compare that to:

    Parker: 13.0% TOV%, 27.7% USG%, 40.4% AST%.

    Ginobili: 17.3% TOV%, 25.2% USG%, and 30.6 AST%.

    And since you mentioned them I'll throw their stats in too:

    Rondo: 22.6 TOV%, 21.7 USG%, 49.3 AST%

    Rubio: 21.4% TOV%, 21.2 USG%, 38.8% AST%

    Nando: 23.7% TOV%, 17.1 USG, 20.6 AST%


    Notice how real playmakers have roughly double the AST% of their TOV% (Rubio about about double, Rondo with about 2 1/2, Parker with a godly triple, and Manu at about 75% more rather than a full 100%). Nando on the other hand is 15% worse than breaking even.

    Nando is one of the last guys you want handling the rock imo.

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    It's curious that the poster that so vehemently defends a French player can assault Italian military history.
    France won World War I, tbh.

    World War II? Eh, maybe not.

    But that military record sure beats the out of the Italians.

    The French Alpine Line also completely stuffed the inept Italians when they tried to cross over the border during the invasion in 1940.

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    As Opposed to the French, who got ed slapped twice by the Germans and needed over 100,000 US soliders in two World War's to die on their soil just to save their sorry lazy asses. They needed us to save their asses in Vietnam but at the end of the day we were like enough of this . Just to let you know, that is why the French Government hates us. We lost Vietnam for them, which was their richest province at the time. Since then they have voted against US interests in almost every UN Resolution. Bunch of lazy ass MF's who can't fight their own wars. Napoleon (who is actually Italian ironically) is the only saving grace the French has had in their history and probably Voltaire and the age of Enlightenment.

    Italians ruled half the civilized world for 500 years to claim to their history and the Renaissance.

    Both Italians and French for past 100 years + are more noted for Car Designs, Fashion, Wine, Food, etc., not their Military might. So its funny that you would dog them and yet defend Frenchies as well and still promote European Int'l Intelligence as a whole. So if Italians are excluded from this, wouldn't the French be as well. This is a pure example of the pot calling the kettle black.


    I promote European nationalism, but there is no doubt that France is indeed superior to the rest of Europe. De Gaulle had it right when he kept France out of NATO, tbh. It's time for France to leave the EU and begin to colonize Africa again, tbh.

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    Nando Is Over Rated..... If you are NBA Talent, You Would Shine or show signs of Being Good... Especially Against Summer League Compe ion

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    I promote European nationalism, but there is no doubt that France is indeed superior to the rest of Europe. De Gaulle had it right when he kept France out of NATO, tbh. It's time for France to leave the EU and begin to colonize Africa again, tbh.
    Je suis français (toi aussi on dirait) mais tu es vraiment un gros crétin




    I'm French (you too it seems) but you're really a big jerk

    You're a disgrace to your fellow countrymen and other Europeans to each of your thread
    Stop bull ting

    Je suis français (toi aussi on dirait) mais tu es vraiment un gros crétin

    Tu fais honte à tes compatriotes et autres européens à chacun de tes sujets
    Arrête de raconter des conneries

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    As Opposed to the French, who got ed slapped twice by the Germans and needed over 100,000 US soliders in two World War's to die on their soil just to save their sorry lazy asses. They needed us to save their asses in Vietnam but at the end of the day we were like enough of this . Just to let you know, that is why the French Government hates us. We lost Vietnam for them, which was their richest province at the time. Since then they have voted against US interests in almost every UN Resolution. Bunch of lazy ass MF's who can't fight their own wars. Napoleon (who is actually Italian ironically) is the only saving grace the French has had in their history and probably Voltaire and the age of Enlightenment.
    France lost 1,3 million soldiers in WW I. Which is more or less 10 times the number of US soldiers who died during WW I - and 3 times during WWII. Sure we are grateful for all the allies that came to fight in 1914-1918 (they did not only come from the US by the way) but they did not come to save France, they came to fight a common foe.
    As far as Vietnam is concerned, the US did all their best not to support the French. They probably thought they could do better. They did not.

    Otherwise PlayNando is a complete troll. Italy contributed so much to European civilization (and still does) that reading his posts is just a waste of time.

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    Italy is a . Those fkers took advantage of Germany's domination of France and occupied southeastern France during the war from the Vichy Regime. Opportunists, smh. The barbarian hordes brought down their great "empire" during the 300s.

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    Say what//?????????

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    This thread is turning into an international history debate.

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