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    Im not a citizen chump, though I have lived in the US on and off, in DC, NYC, San Francisco and Chicago over the course of 15 odd years. I have brothers, sisters, nephews, and plenty of friends who are citizens. I am culturally latino, physically white (italian/spanish descent on both sides of the family tree).

    Obviously, police state has connotations that are extremely negative and I'm willing to acknowledge I used the term haphazardly. But it is not as funny or far off the mark as you think. Not when you have the highest incarceration rates per capita for probably decades now (Im not going to go check, but Im pretty sure that was already the case around 2002-03), not when you have the most well armed and well equipped police force the world has ever seen, not when you have surveillance programs of unprecedented size and scope (phone taps, cameras, NSA/prism, now drones), not when your civil liberties were cut to shreds by the patriot act. Generally speaking I hold the US in very high regard, and it might seem unfair to be held to a higher standard than other countries. As a former resident with friends and relatives in the US, and even just as a citizen of one of hundreds of countries that seeks to emulate the US' model, I find the trends in law enforcement there more than a little disturbing- both in terms of results and costs. If this woman were immediately shot dead- because as Nono said there are places you just dont around- that would have been easier to understand for me, than what ended up happening. And if thats the best the US can do, whats left for the rest of the world?

    As for being an internet hero, Im not a trained police officer and I dont know how I would have reacted. I have interfered in robberies and assaults a couple of times, thankfully without serious injuries for me or anyone else (never any guns involved). But thats not my point. My point is that it should have been easy for one of the police men to grab her, or for one of the squad cars to have boxed her in from the rear when she was pinned at the gate. Guns arent the only means to stop criminals and crazies. You think they tried to stop her without shooting, failed, then shot her; well, I dont think they tried nearly hard enough to stop her without shooting. If she were armed then their hesitation would be wholly understandable, despite their numerical advantage. But given that numerical advantage and her being unarmed, I think their performance was quite poor.

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    Calling the US a police state is pretty funny and far off the mark.

    more bs from the post count leading status quo defender

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    more bs from the post count leading status quo defender
    More emoticons from memeboy.

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    Police State, USA

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    Tell us how the police state personally oppresses you every day.

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    us

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    Us as in anyone reading this thread.

    Go ahead.

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    I'm not interested in bull made up questions made up from bs made up scenarios in your own own re ed head

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    You made the claim it's a police state.

    I asked you how what you claim to be a police state oppresses you every day.

    My guess is not much at all if at all.

    Prove me wrong if you can.

    Or whine some more. Reassure yourself with emoticons.

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    Make me

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    I just did make you whine some more.

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    I knew you wouldn't do , coward. lol

    police state defender lol

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    I knew you were wrong about the police state.

    Hope you learned your lesson. Now you have another shtick to steal.

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    Nah, you were wrong, as usual tbh. You actually know it's a police state..you're just the kind of sheep that loves it though, and they love having morons like you defend it, braindead fools..you're the perfect sheep for them.

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    You're the one who can't back up your claim. You actually know it isn't a police state and you were just exposed again.

    You may now get angry about it.

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    Nope, you know its a police state. Sorry you get angry about me knowing that.

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    You failed to give even one example of how the "police state" is affecting you personally.

    Must suck for an armchair revolutionary such as yourself.

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    78,377 post count boy calling someone else "armchair"

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    Not even one way.

    Some police state you're living in.

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