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    I don't really care for the 3 PG lineup. How many do we need?
    I should've used the blue font tbqh. Sorry fwiw.
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    In a vacuum, the trade is fine. It's not about that though. It's about the front office once again not doing their job.

    If Leonard get's in foul trouble against the Thunder/Heat, they'd be in serious trouble. If he get's injured against either, they're done. Even if he stays healthy, they're not equipped to play a small ball series.

    And before the apologists come out of the wood work with the predictable, if any key player on any contender is injured, they're done, response, that's besides the point. You still have to have a backup plan. They have it with the big three (Splitter, Mills and Belinelli). Obviously they couldn't win the championship without any, but it's conceivable they could win a round or at least have a puncher's chance. If Leonard goes down and it's the wrong match-up, they don't even have that. They'd be flat out done on the spot.
    Understood, but De Colo wasn't going to contribute there anyway. I think in that scenario, they let Green take Kawhi's spot and insert Manu into the starting unit

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    In a vacuum, the trade is fine. It's not about that though. It's about the front office once again not doing their job.

    If Leonard get's in foul trouble against the Thunder/Heat, they'd be in serious trouble. If he get's injured against either, they're done. Even if he stays healthy, they're not equipped to play a small ball series.

    And before the apologists come out of the wood work with the predictable, if any key player on any contender is injured, they're done, response, that's besides the point. You still have to have a backup plan. They have it with the big three (Splitter, Mills and Belinelli). Obviously they couldn't win the championship without any, but it's conceivable they could win a round or at least have a puncher's chance. If Leonard goes down and it's the wrong match-up, they don't even have that. They'd be flat out done on the spot.
    Nah, the backup plan is Green, and that's just about better than anyone mentioned in trade talks.

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    wow, based on the vitriol in here one would think the spurs have the worst FO in the office. the same FO that makes players out of patty mills and danny green.

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    wow, based on the vitriol in here one would think the spurs have the worst FO in the office. the same FO that makes players out of patty mills and danny green.
    Obvious flukes.

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    Daye this year, when playing SF, his opponents have a PER of 36 (small sample size). He himself has a PER of 0. Contrast that to Nando playing SF: Opponents have a PER of 13 and he himself has a PER of 16.

    Even at SF, De Colo appears to be better. Even if you look at last year, while Daye's numbers look better than this one with the small sample size of him being awful, De Colo still grades out better as a SF:

    Daye: Opp PER 7.9, his own 11.3. De Colo: Opp PER 15.3, his own 22.1. De Colo has been decent in his small time at SF and consistently better than Daye at the position.

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    Nah, the backup plan is Green, and that's just about better than anyone mentioned in trade talks.
    Green is neither big nor strong enough to defend James and though he could conceivably guard Durant/George some, he's not all that suited to defend them either.

    But I'll play along. Leonard is injured, Green takes his spot. Diaw can guard James for stretches, but not the other two, so who does then? Joseph? Do they flat out not play with another perimeter defender in the rotation? Worse yet, what if Green get's in foul trouble? This doesn't even take into account that, if they need him to strictly defend SF's, then they can't have him defend Westbrook/Jackson.

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    the same FO that makes players out of patty mills and danny green.
    The same FO that gives Jeff Ayres a portion of the MLE

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    Eh, I bet no one here has actually seen him play more than a minute or two.

    I'm not going to pimp him, but I'm not going to pretend I have extensively scouted him either.

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    I've watched him play a decent amount. No one has watched him this year very much because he couldn't crack the rotation.

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    Green is neither big nor strong enough to defend James
    Sorry, Green defended James in the finals.

    But we're talking about Lebron James here. Who they was available that can effectively guard him or anyone you listed?

    And if anyone posts the name Singleton I will die laughing.

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    I've watched him play a decent amount.
    Sure you have, sport.

    You know it all.

    Thank God we traded for him, otherwise all your extensive scouting of him would be for naught.

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    Don't understand the hate tbh... De Colo would've never cracked the rotation in the playoffs. Obviously Pop knows he's going with Mills/Jospeh as backup PG's based on certain match-ups. There's no way to say Daye will be in the rotation come playoff time. It all depends on his level of play during the weeks leading up to the P/O's. So all this talk about stupid trade or De Colo is better is non-sense. This is coming from the same bunch who wanted De Colo one of the assets for a trade. Comical.

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    Seems like Spurs didn't even give a about Daye and only made the trade in order to give DeColo a shot at making it in the NBA. If that's the case, it looks like the front office isn't interested in winning a championship. They seem content in being a doomat for the Thunder.

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    The same FO that gives Jeff Ayres a portion of the MLE
    but that has structured itself to run with the big three in such a way that they have a chance to win and then have generous cap space in two seasons.

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    true. De Colo is better at SF than Daye is and wouldn't cost 250k against next year's cap.

    Hard to understand.

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    Seems like Spurs didn't even give a about Daye and only made the trade in order to give DeColo a shot at making it in the NBA. If that's the case, it looks like the front office isn't interested in winning a championship. They seem content in being a doomat for the Thunder.
    that's a lot of assuming in one post

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    I think the question is not so much "who can stop Durant/Lebron", but who has a better shot of doing the most admirable job. I think at every position except maybe PF/C, that Nando was better than Daye. Again, this is really not a big deal in the scheme of things - more a symptom of the fact the Spurs didn't do anything that anyone could reasonably argue to improve in some areas that most would agree they needed improvement.

    Buyout candidates still offer that hope.

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    Don't understand the hate tbh... De Colo would've never cracked the rotation in the playoffs. Obviously Pop knows he's going with Mills/Jospeh as backup PG's based on certain match-ups. There's no way to say Daye will be in the rotation come playoff time. It all depends on his level of play during the weeks leading up to the P/O's. So all this talk about stupid trade or De Colo is better is non-sense. This is coming from the same bunch who wanted De Colo one of the assets for a trade. Comical.
    You're incredibly naive if you think a horrid player like Daye will be in the playoff rotation.

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    Sure you have, sport.

    You know it all.

    Thank God we traded for him, otherwise all your extensive scouting of him would be for naught.
    That literally doesn't make any sense. You said you doubt anyone has really watched him. I told you I did especially in DET and said that no one really watched him this year. Only you could turn that into some sort of strange argument or mock that when you yourself said you only doubted many of us watched him

    Unless for some reason you think I would lie about it. I watch a lot of basketball. You don't have to agree with my "scouting" report, but even that is ironic considering you seem to imply you didn't really watch him

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    Don't understand the hate tbh
    Then you don't understand SpursTalk.

    Barring a buyout acquisition, Green and Diaw are Leonard's backups. I guess people can present their alternative timeline championship trades now.

    Haven't seen one yet.

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    That literally doesn't make any sense. You said you doubt anyone has really watched him. I told you I did especially in DET and said that no one really watched him this year. Only you could turn that into some sort of strange argument or mock that when you yourself said you only doubted many of us watched him

    Unless for some reason you think I would lie about it. I watch a lot of basketball. You don't have to agree with my "scouting" report, but even that is ironic considering you seem to imply you didn't really watch him
    I stated plainly that I didn't watch him.

    And yeah, I doubt you did.

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    Green is neither big nor strong enough to defend James and though he could conceivably guard Durant/George some, he's not all that suited to defend them either.

    But I'll play along. Leonard is injured, Green takes his spot. Diaw can guard James for stretches, but not the other two, so who does then? Joseph? Do they flat out not play with another perimeter defender in the rotation? Worse yet, what if Green get's in foul trouble? This doesn't even take into account that, if they need him to strictly defend SF's, then they can't have him defend Westbrook/Jackson.
    Why do folks always insist Green can't guard SFs? He's done fine on Durant and George, and he was great on James. The problem is that he wears down giving up so much weight that he can't do it enough. He's a great second defender for them, but he'd need a good backup to do it on his own.

    Agree they need a competent SF behind Leonard if only for the regular season. But I feel better about Cory against guards than I did a month ago.

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    Green is neither big nor strong enough to defend James and though he could conceivably guard Durant/George some, he's not all that suited to defend them either.

    But I'll play along. Leonard is injured, Green takes his spot. Diaw can guard James for stretches, but not the other two, so who does then? Joseph? Do they flat out not play with another perimeter defender in the rotation? Worse yet, what if Green get's in foul trouble? This doesn't even take into account that, if they need him to strictly defend SF's, then they can't have him defend Westbrook/Jackson.
    Why do folks always insist Green can't guard SFs? He's done fine on Durant and George, and he was great on James. The problem is that he wears down giving up so much weight that he can't do it enough. He's a great second defender for them, but he'd need a good backup to do it on his own.

    Agree they need a competent SF behind Leonard if only for the regular season. But I feel better about Cory against guards than I did a month ago.

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    Speaking for myself, I've been saying Daye sucks in every thread, because he does, but I don't have a problem with the actual trade, it doesn't affect the Spurs on either side, tbh..

    It's still disappointing that they didn't make a move at the deadline, though, especially after the Ayres debacle..

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