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    I would imagine, yes. I think Grangers issue is not just that he was traded, but traded from legit contender to worst team in the NBA. His role was limited on INDY - I can't imagine him being upset at that on another contender.
    Good point. And now after nine years, the opportunity to accomplish something has now slipped away.

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    I see zero chance that Granger starts or takes minutes from Leonard.
    You're right. Pop loves him too much. The spurs anemic 1st unit offense would have to hit record levels of sluggishness before Pop would pull the plug.

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    Do you see any chance of the Spurs, if they get Granger, playing small more often? I don't know how effective Granger would be as a smallball 4 (with 3 guards and a big when Leonard is on the bench). Basically it would marginalize any big outside of the top 3, which is probably a good thing anyway.
    I don't. For the last couple of seasons the Spurs have primarily gone small to match up with opponents that go small. By the time we get to the playoffs, the other 3 bigs will disappear unless we play Memphis or Indiana.

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    You're right. Pop loves him too much. The spurs anemic 1st unit offense would have to hit record levels of sluggishness before Pop would pull the plug.
    Well, replacing Leonard with an inferior offensive player wouldn't seem to be a remedy for an anemic offense.

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    Well, replacing Leonard with an inferior offensive player wouldn't seem to be a remedy for an anemic offense.
    Granger regaining his old form > Leonard currently. Offensively, anyway..and like I said, Green has shown the ability to be the team's defensive stopper. With Parker most likely hampered until next season and Leonard contibuing to stink it up on offense I think a valid argument can be made for this move.

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    Anyone who's followed Granger knows why he's pissed. He handled is demotion from face of the franchise about as well as anyone I've ever seen. George says Granger was his primary mentor. Danny was probably willing to take whatever the Pacers gave him to stay this summer. Instead, they dump him on the worst team in the league as soon.as they get a decent return for him. Basketball is just a business, but some teams don't treat it that way, and some players don't think of it that way.

    Hopefully, he gets over it and signs on with the Spurs. I think it's among them, the Clipper and the Thunder. The Spurs' loyalty to their players may actually be an advantage for them here. Both OKC and LAC have unceremoniously dumped players this year. The Spurs' culture might feel like the best fit for what Granger wants in an organization.

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    Spurs are interested in Granger?

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    Yup - even look at the Hill trade. Spurs were very public about how difficult it was to trade him (which I haven't seen from INDY) and not only that they traded him to his hometown team which was on the upswing.

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    Granger regaining his old form
    We can discuss that when it happens. Right now he is a markedly inferior offensive player when compared to Leonard. He's a well below average NBA offensive player right now.

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    Granger regaining his old form > Leonard currently. Offensively, anyway..and like I said, Green has shown the ability to be the team's defensive stopper. With Parker most likely hampered until next season and Leonard contibuing to stink it up on offense I think a valid argument can be made for this move.
    He's 31 with a busted knee and missed a bunch of games with a calf injury this season..he has no explosiveness remaining and he can't jump anymore..there's virtually no chance that he will regain his old form..

    If the Spurs sign him, it'll be to play 10 minutes per game in the playoffs, and/or if Leonard/Green gets in foul trouble, along with being insurance against Lebron/Durant from a size perspective..

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    Would be nice if it was "Granger, interested in Signing with Spurs"

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    Spurs are interested in Granger?
    Actually, all we're going off of is a source saying Granger is interested in the Spurs or Heat. No word yet about whether the Spurs have reciprocated that interest.

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    Actually, all we're going off of is a source saying Granger is interested in the Spurs or Heat. No word yet about whether the Spurs have reciprocated that interest.

    thanks, that was what I imagined, but it was not accessing early, so did not know they had new news

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    This has a Michael Finley 2.0 feel to it...

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    He's 31 with a busted knee and missed a bunch of games with a calf injury this season..he has no explosiveness remaining and he can't jump anymore..there's virtually no chance that he will regain his old form..

    If the Spurs sign him, it'll be to play 10 minutes per game in the playoffs, and/or if Leonard/Green gets in foul trouble, along with being insurance against Lebron/Durant from a size perspective..
    His game really never was predicated on explosive leaping however. I would be willing to bet he could give the spurs the midrange shooting they have been looking for with Leonard and surely his 3pt shooting % would improve aka Richard Jefferson. He's also a big game player not afraid of the moment.

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    If Granger and Caron Butler are both bought out, surely both won't be going to Miami.
    Our hope should be that Miam already has Lebron, Battier and Beasley splitting minutes at the 3 & 4 with Bosh at the 5 and occasionally playing PF. Granger would be competing for minutes with 3 or four players. With San Antonio, a quick look at the depth chart shows only Leonard if Granger and his agent are interested.

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    His game really never was predicated on explosive leaping however. I would be willing to bet he could give the spurs the midrange shooting they have been looking for with Leonard and surely his 3pt shooting % would improve aka Richard Jefferson. He's also a big game player not afraid of the moment.
    You would lose that bet:

    2013-14 shooting percentages:

    3-10 feet:
    Granger: 30.0%
    Leonard: 54%

    10-16 feet:
    Granger: 20.0%
    Leonard: 48.8%

    16 feet to 3pt:
    Granger: 37.1%
    Leonard: 44.4%

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    You wonder if Granger remembers Boylen. That sounds better.
    You missed the joke. Boylen forgot to put Kawhi back into the game, therefore, he has a bad memory.

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    You would lose that bet:

    2013-14 shooting percentages:

    3-10 feet:
    Granger: 30.0%
    Leonard: 54%

    10-16 feet:
    Granger: 20.0%
    Leonard: 48.8%

    16 feet to 3pt:
    Granger: 37.1%
    Leonard: 44.4%
    The stats do not indicate the volume of shots put up. I would bet Granger shot a lot more therefore the percentage is down. Though i'm not doubting the fact that Granger's jumpshot is broken either.

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    You would lose that bet:

    2013-14 shooting percentages:

    3-10 feet:
    Granger: 30.0%
    Leonard: 54%

    10-16 feet:
    Granger: 20.0%
    Leonard: 48.8%

    16 feet to 3pt:
    Granger: 37.1%
    Leonard: 44.4%
    Ewow.. didn't realize Granger was struggling that badly.

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    So he's joining the heat, move on

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    Any idea what the guy would sign for? Vet min.?

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    The stats do not indicate the volume of shots put up. I would bet Granger shot a lot more therefore the percentage is down. Though i'm not doubting the fact that Granger's jumpshot is broken either.
    85 shots for Granger, 169 shots for Kawhi.

    Thing is, even if you go back to Granger's all star season in 2008-09 when he averaged over 25 ppg, his mid range percentages were lower than Kawhi's numbers this season. Kawhi's 3 point shooting was a problem early this season, but has been steadily increasing as the season progressed:

    Nov: 20%
    Dec: 36.1%
    Jan: 43.5%

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    That's assuming sixers let granger walk

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    How is it that the Spurs always get brought up for a lot of these free agents. Who starts that rumor?

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