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And had he paid them they'd have added new regulations on top of new regulations to eventually get him to this point anyways. Stop being naive, you know they would have found a succulent that needed protecting.
According to the letter posted here from his daughter, he stopped paying the fees when he felt the fees weren't being used to help the ranchers.
That's akin to any of us to stop paying our taxes when we feel like the government isn't doing it's job. It's a recipe for disaster.
The courts don't pass laws, legislatures do. Courts issue orders based on those laws. If he had this basic understanding, he would realize that he should've spent that money in political support or a damn good attorney.
Might be too late now though.
And had he paid them they'd have added new regulations on top of new regulations to eventually get him to this point anyways. Stop being naive, you know they would have found a succulent that needed protecting.
Wiat, now you are questioning the tortoise designation?
I'll take a federal judge's word over yours, counselor.
So you just made up the connection.I'll let you know when Harry Reid replies to my email. Could take a while.
OK. Wouldn't be the first time.
I suspect cronyism in every level of government.You can't keep ignoring that the positions the three of these men hold is a serious conflict of interest.
Let's play the yes or no game you so love to partake in.
Is the possibility for crony capitalism EXTREMELY high when you have Reid, Reid, and Kornze in the mix?
But thanks for admitting it has nothing to do with Bundyville.
I'm not one to post youtubes but the BLM doesn't operate like any other.
It's the landowner's right.
Why can't a landowner determine how the land is used?
You can't squat in your apartment after your lease is up just because you want to live there for free.
The laws are whatever was voted. What's "just" or not is debatable.
We all agree or disagree about a certain law all the time, but one thing we certainly do know is that if you don't follow it, then there's going to be repercussions. That's not up for debate and never changed. That kind of "freedom" to disregard law is imaginary, and outside of perhaps the prohibition, always been pretty consistent. I think we all understand that's part of living in a civilized society.
The BLM sought a court order and got it. This guy needed to go there or another court and overturn it. That's how society works these days.
This isn't even a FISA court where civilians have little to no recourse. He probably thought that because nothing was done in 20 years, nothing would happen. Wrong idea.
What you're saying is you can't support someone who refuses to obey what they consider to be an unjust law.
Obviously consequences will follow. But today's law isn't something set in stone delivered from God on high.
People do what they think they must to protect themselves.
It also depends if you think we live in civilized society instead of one where the criminals run everything.
Dumb rant.
The federal government owns the land in question. Bundy doesn't have a right to squat on it for 20 years.
He should move his cattle off the federal land he's been squatting on for 20 years.
Your level of insight and thought into this is amazing.
You probably hated Les Miserables.
Make the connection for yourself.
Bundy's land in question fall within the Dry Lake solar energy zone.
“Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,”
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medial...dat/TN_444.pdf
But thanks for admitting it has nothing to do with Bundyville.
You so sure about that?
It's very simple. You guys are making up to complicate it.
The book or the play or the movie?You probably hated Les Miserables.
Seeing as it was 20 years ago, yes.Make the connection for yourself.
Bundy's land in question fall within the Dry Lake solar energy zone.
“Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,”
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medial...dat/TN_444.pdf
You so sure about that?
I need a microscope to read your map.
And it's not Bundy's land. Quit making up.
You shouldn't sit in front of a computer screen as much as you do as it has obviously ruined your eyesight.
It's amazing. You're like the perfect serf.
As for Les Miserables, I'm referring to the story (so the book Mr. Literal). Jean ValJean stole dammit. He should have gone to prison!
(I'm glad you couldn't figure out the reference on your own. You're really smart.)
Does Bundy's land not fall within the Dry Lake solar energy zone?
Yes or no?
Chump I'm off to watch the Masters with my militia brothers. I'll check back in later to see if you were able to read the map.
The land dispute is not over land Bundy owns.
Quit making up.
I liked all three in their own way.
Bundy has no relation to any character in the book.
Les Mis is not about a squatter's making threats because he may no longer be able to freeload off the federal government.
This guy stole over a million dollars of your tax money and you want to pass him off as some kind of hero.
If you can fix me up with a phone with a 24 inch screen, let me know.
You're right. It's about a criminal who a decadent and corrupt government is legally yet unjustly prosecuting.
What possible relationship does that have with today?
Clearly that viewpoint doesn't resonate with anyone as seen by how unpopular the story is.
Squatting is squatting. Stealing is stealing.
The justice system is completely fair to all classes.
The government never unevenly applies the law based on personal vendettas or the class of people affected.
If you complain about it there's obviously something wrong with you. If you try to fight it you're an idiot.
Civil disobedience is a waste of time. No laws have ever been changed due to people rising up and voicing their displeasure with them either through "legal" or "illegitimate" means.
Last edited by angrydude; 04-12-2014 at 03:17 PM.
Appears the standoff is not over.
BLM still has guns pointed at unarmed (visibly) peacefully protesting citizens.
The land he owns most definitely falls within the Dry Lake solar zone.
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