OT: Barkley,"We're never going to be successful as a race because of blacks not whites"

[313]

I always get a good chuckle when whities post "all those negroes have to do is apply themselves, and they can be 10k/day CEOs with all dat der affirmative action herp derp". If making it out of the ghetto and being successful was easy as white people made it seem we wouldn't even be having these silly discussion. But alas, young black men have a higher chance of going to a federal penitentiary than going to college. Christ!

[Malik Hairston]

weren't you running Asif Ali Zardari? iirc you also claimed that at one point you were controlling koolaid_man, and rogues said you gave him his account after thunderpup got banned

I have had trolls in the past, I don't have any current trolls..

The first poster you named belong to me, not the others(especially not Kool)..

I've never been known for trolls like Bump, DD and Jamstone, yet somehow I have a rep for creating them..

[Trill Clinton]

You literally called Obama white as an insult. It was direct quotes. Don't know how you can deflect? Also, you are a sad dude and you come off as someone that was raised in a house with some money. You start shoe threads and talk about your sock game, but it's all online vs going out in real life.

again more reaching and fallacies. i never called him white as an insult either. your struggle trolling is boring. i don't know why jerryd bayless entertained it for so long ugh.

[Malik Hairston]

I always get a good chuckle when whities post "all those negroes have to do is apply themselves, and they can be 10k/day CEOs with all dat der affirmative action herp derp". If making it out of the ghetto and being successful was easy as white people made it seem we wouldn't even be having these silly discussion. But alas, young black men have a higher chance of going to a federal penitentiary than going to college. Christ!

like djohn's "Obama proves you can make it" argument ..

[DPG21920]

Oh look, another thread where white people try to talk about issues in the black community.

I've never seen a guy/girl get picked on for being smart, or getting good grades. Those were usually the kids that students looked up to or had a lot friends. The kids who got bullied were the weird kids or the ones who were too poor to afford decent clothes. of my black friends, even the ones from the hood[I'm from detroit, but went to school outside of detroit], are doing something with their lives. Whether it be school, working, or the army. Mostly school. Maybe it's just the people I surrounded myself with. Sure if all your buddies are drug dealers on the corner, or HS dropouts they'll call you a sellout for trying to be successful, but it's not common throughout the black community. I have been told that I talk white before, but it's been from black and white people. Black guys do mumble a lot, so the stereotype is understandable even though it annoys me.

Black people are deemed sellouts for becoming successful, there are plenty of successful black people. Blacks are usually labeled a sellout for other reasons.

This is hilarious. Another "white guy talking about blacks" comment. So when "white people" talk, it's dismissed. When a black man talks (Barkley), he doesn't have credentials. What are the requirements for someone to speak on the matter?

Also, why do people act like they were slaves? You didn't experience that. You are only talking about your experience and I highly doubt you are more qualified to speak on it more than anyone else. I went to a poor high school (mostly hispanic) and a rich high school too. I've had my own experiences.

It's just funny how people like you use the "white guy talking about black people" logic even when plenty of black people agree. How stupid of logic would that be applied to anything else? You can't talk about food because you aren't a chef. You can't comment on cars because you aren't a mechanic. You can't comment on white people because you don't know the hardships of being white. Just stupid.

[DPG21920]

again more reaching and fallacies. i never called him white as an insult either. your struggle trolling is boring. i don't know why jerryd bayless entertained it for so long ugh.

You seem salty about my Twitter game tbh..The fact you actually take time to read my Twitter posts and I don't even know your handle shows where we are at.

You didn't call him a coon or white as an insult You were using those as terms of endearment?

[DPG21920]

I always get a good chuckle when whities post "all those negroes have to do is apply themselves, and they can be 10k/day CEOs with all dat der affirmative action herp derp". If making it out of the ghetto and being successful was easy as white people made it seem we wouldn't even be having these silly discussion. But alas, young black men have a higher chance of going to a federal penitentiary than going to college. Christ!

The same argument you are making can be applied to all parties. Anyone in a ghetto, no matter the race, will struggle.

[313]

This is hilarious. Another "white guy talking about blacks" comment. So when "white people" talk, it's dismissed.

Yes.

When a black man talks (Barkley), he doesn't have credentials.

Charles isn't completely wrong, but for the most part he is. There are a myriad of reasons why black people struggle in this country, "not being black enough" isn't at the top of the list.

What are the requirements for someone to speak on the matter?

Anyone can speak on the black community, and share their opinions.

Also, why do people act like they were slaves? You didn't experience that.

I didn't mention slavery but it has had lasting effects, that still plague the black community today.

You are only talking about your experience and I highly doubt you are more qualified to speak on it more than anyone else. I went to a poor high school (mostly hispanic) and a rich high school too. I've had my own experiences.

Are you black? Did you grow up in a black family, and in an inner city, black neighborhood. I'd say I'm qualified enough.

How stupid of logic would that be applied to anything else? You can't talk about food because you aren't a chef. You can't comment on cars because you aren't a mechanic. You can't comment on white people because you don't know the hardships of being white. Just stupid.

Let's take your car analogy. Me? I'm not a car guy. So am I going to to go up to a group mechanics working on a car, and give them advice? No. This isn't directed towards you specifically, but towards people outside of the lack community who try to give their two cents. It's like somebody judging your family without knowing you or your family. How would you feel? They don't know you, they just see you around. But they feel they know enough to pass judgement on you.

[313]

The same argument you are making can be applied to all parties. Anyone in a ghetto, no matter the race, will struggle.

Black people make up the majority of inner cities.

[313]

When Barkley says this: "He keeps it real!"
When Barkley orders whites stop use of N-word: 'dumb uneducated n!gger shoots hoops for a living! his opinion doesn't count'

confirmation bias ftw

underrated post

[apalisoc_9]

SMH at all these Idiots..

I grew up in a really low class family, and the main reason why a lot of negros have trouble making out to the hood is not because of lack of IQ, or at ude, or even work habits..It's just lack of proper education..I've been in both Ghetto and Middle Class schools and the difference is significant.

It's not as simple as changing mentality..You gotta understand the hood is the way it is because of years poverty which really goes back to the 60-70 racism IMO..Slowly and surely things are changing as more blacks now are getting better education.

Unfortunately the current crop of educated people are prone to white dixk suxking since most their peers are mostly whites and they always have to assimilate to white people things..hence you get tons of coons....

[Red Hawk #21]

again more reaching and fallacies. i never called him white as an insult either. your struggle trolling is boring. i don't know why jerryd bayless entertained it for so long ugh.

You got exposed and resorted to saying i never called him white as an insult

You are one dumb Mother er.

[Koolaid_Man]

I have had trolls in the past, I don't have any current trolls..

The first poster you named belong to me, not the others(especially not Kool)..

I've never been known for trolls like Bump, DD and Jamstone, yet somehow I have a rep for creating them..

you got dam right right home boy..especially not Kool...because at no time have I been getting prostate exams up my ass and taking viagara for erections let alone in high school....that's all you big homie....you gotdam right...especially not Mutha ing Kool

[Malik Hairston]

you got dam right right home boy..especially not Kool...because at no time have I been getting prostate exams up my ass and taking viagara for erections let alone in high school....that's all you big homie....you gotdam right...especially not Mutha ing Kool

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Kool, what's your opinion on this subject?..

[Koolaid_Man]

When all you sorry ass white bas s will start acknowledging all the foul and evil you white devils do then I may give Barkley's bubbalicious lips rant a look...until then lick my ass....Yall always good for the black man needs to do this and needs to that...what about the got dam white man....you punk ass mutha ers never want to acknowledge all the dirty yall do....like leading the nation in smoking crack, mass killings, mass racism....raping kids...all that ...yall simply don't want to acknowledge it...well suck me...I don't give a

[313]

When all you sorry ass white bas s will start acknowledging all the foul and evil you white devils do then I may give Barkley's bubbalicious lips rant a look...until then lick my ass....Yall always good for the black man needs to do this and needs to that...what about the got dam white man....you punk ass mutha ers never want to acknowledge all the dirty yall do....like leading the nation in smoking crack, mass killings, mass racism....raping kids...all that ...yall simply don't want to acknowledge it...well suck me...I don't give a

[DPG21920]

Yes.

Well the is the epitome of close-mindedness. What if I'm white but grew up in a majority black ghetto? What if I studied at the doctorate level the impacts of racism and slavery?

Charles isn't completely wrong, but for the most part he is. There are a myriad of reasons why black people struggle in this country, "not being black enough" isn't at the top of the list.

I don't think Charles said it was the main reason, did he? If he's not completely wrong, that means there is some truth to what he said and that's what's being discussed.

Anyone can speak on the black community, and share their opinions.

Well, that seems silly considering you just dismissed anyone who was white above.

I didn't mention slavery but it has had lasting effects, that still plague the black community today.

Didn't say you mentioned slavery. I said people, not just you, who bring up the "struggle" are a bunch of people with more opportunities than ever before, and probably who aren't that well educated about slavery since it's so far removed, yet try to argue the direct impacts.

Are you black? Did you grow up in a black family, and in an inner city, black neighborhood. I'd say I'm qualified enough.

I am not black. Did not grow up in a black family. Did grow up in an inner city where whites were the minority (to hispanics). I would not say you are any more qualified than most. You are someone focused on your very limited experience with probably very little high level education/study on the specific matter at hand. May be wrong though.

Let's take your car analogy. Me? I'm not a car guy. So am I going to to go up to a group mechanics working on a car, and give them advice? No. This isn't directed towards you specifically, but towards people outside of the lack community who try to give their two cents. It's like somebody judging your family without knowing you or your family. How would you feel? They don't know you, they just see you around. But they feel they know enough to pass judgement on you.

It's not about giving advice, its about having a well informed opinion. The better analogy would be a non-car guy whos very well educated going up to a group of mechanics and using his experiences and critical thinking skills to have a discussion. Or even more importantly, not allowing mechanics to take advantage of them because they don't know cars. This isn't your family. You don't know every black person any more than I doyet you feel compelled to stick up for them vs whites and just dismiss whites blanketly. Im not black, but I know that seems suspect.

[DPG21920]

Black people make up the majority of inner cities.

So then to me, the issue is that. Not that it's harder for blacks in the ghetto to get out. It's equally hard to get out of a ghetto, white or black. It's why are more inner city ghettos majority black. I'm sure there are systematic levels of oppression that have caused the disparity, but if you want to be taken seriously, talk about the real issues.

[DPG21920]

When all you sorry ass white bas s will start acknowledging all the foul and evil you white devils do then I may give Barkley's bubbalicious lips rant a look...until then lick my ass....Yall always good for the black man needs to do this and needs to that...what about the got dam white man....you punk ass mutha ers never want to acknowledge all the dirty yall do....like leading the nation in smoking crack, mass killings, mass racism....raping kids...all that ...yall simply don't want to acknowledge it...well suck me...I don't give a

Are you white? Did you grow up in a majority white middle class neighborhood that was mostly safe with plenty of opportunity? If not, you don't get to chime on the problems above that plaque my people.

[Infinite_limit]

SMH at all these Idiots..

I grew up in a really low class family, and the main reason why a lot of negros have trouble making out to the hood is not because of lack of IQ, or at ude, or even work habits..It's just lack of proper education..I've been in both Ghetto and Middle Class schools and the difference is significant.

It's not as simple as changing mentality..You gotta understand the hood is the way it is because of years poverty which really goes back to the 60-70 racism IMO..Slowly and surely things are changing as more blacks now are getting better education.

Unfortunately the current crop of educated people are prone to white dixk suxking since most their peers are mostly whites and they always have to assimilate to white people things..hence you get tons of coons....

Chicken or the egg discussion. In college you realize Asians aren't superhuman with some extraordinary brains. They focus on school and put everything else: parties, sports, even relationships to the side. They work hard and then work even more. They don't accept mediocrity. This tends to argue it is about at ude and work habits.

I've encountered plenty of average IQ people that prosper in College simply because they can plan, focus (only on school/work) and work hard. In K-12 they teach you fundamentals like note taking but that is about it. If I had to guess an outside factor, it would definitely be the values taught in the home. If your parents stress hard work, you won't accept mediocrity.

EDIT: Some of you are acting like School is supposed to raise your children

[Red Hawk #21]

This is a real, intelligent Black man here. Truth bombs @ 10:00 Mark

[apalisoc_9]

When all you sorry ass white bas s will start acknowledging all the foul and evil you white devils do then I may give Barkley's bubbalicious lips rant a look...until then lick my ass....Yall always good for the black man needs to do this and needs to that...what about the got dam white man....you punk ass mutha ers never want to acknowledge all the dirty yall do....like leading the nation in smoking crack, mass killings, mass racism....raping kids...all that ...yall simply don't want to acknowledge it...well suck me...I don't give a

[spurraider21]

His mother struggled, yes..not Barkley..

Barkley doesn't know anything about trying to make it ahead in life as a regular dude, nothing at all..he's been recruited and chased by Jews since he was 16 years old, they've been giving him whatever he wants since his senior year in HS, he probably thinks it's the same for everybody..

It's funny listening to these s that act like life is so easy, ignoring that they would be working at Walmart if they hadn't won the genetic lottery..

Barkley can barely speak English, I hope this is aware that none of his White friends would even take a look at him if he couldn't play basketball and jump high..

his main point was on how kids are treated in schools. barkley was a kid in school before he went off to college tbh

[313]

Well the is the epitome of close-mindedness. What if I'm white but grew up in a majority black ghetto? What if I studied at the doctorate level the impacts of racism and slavery?



I don't think Charles said it was the main reason, did he? If he's not completely wrong, that means there is some truth to what he said and that's what's being discussed.



Well, that seems silly considering you just dismissed anyone who was white above.



Didn't say you mentioned slavery. I said people, not just you, who bring up the "struggle" are a bunch of people with more opportunities than ever before, and probably who aren't that well educated about slavery since it's so far removed, yet try to argue the direct impacts.



I am not black. Did not grow up in a black family. Did grow up in an inner city where whites were the minority (to hispanics). I would not say you are any more qualified than most. You are someone focused on your very limited experience with probably very little high level education/study on the specific matter at hand. May be wrong though.



It's not about giving advice, its about having a well informed opinion. The better analogy would be a non-car guy whos very well educated going up to a group of mechanics and using his experiences and critical thinking skills to have a discussion. Or even more importantly, not allowing mechanics to take advantage of them because they don't know cars. This isn't your family. You don't know every black person any more than I doyet you feel compelled to stick up for them vs whites and just dismiss whites blanketly. Im not black, but I know that seems suspect.

I don't have much time right now. I'll type out a proper response tomorrow.

[DPG21920]

I don't have much time right now. I'll type out a proper response tomorrow.

Looking forward to it. Every time you've taken a pause to type something out it's usually well thought out even if I don't agree with it.