OT: Manny Paq better not duck Money..

[Buddy Mignon]

Art = Entertainment
Maybe if he wasnt relying so heavily on the refs, when I think Art in boxing Ali, Sugar Ray, Holyfield (footwork, hard training, punch selection) comes to my mind, I respect your opionion but to me old boy Floy´ is a manufactured POS, I cant call a Champion some who is running away from foes or clinching 5 rounds in a row, In the 1st Maidana bout his face looked like shiet and Maidana came out clean... he is not a great artist to me.

Ali clinched in every fight. That was his signature move... hit and hold.

[HemisfairArena]

Rope a dope will always be the best move ever in boxing history and that is why Ali will always be the best,,,,

[Mikeanaro]

Ali clinched in every fight. That was his signature move... hit and hold.

He didnt clinched the whole fight against Frazier and Foreman, there were some dirty exchanges, with Frazier ended the fight pissing blood at the hospital.
There was no glove complains and stuff like that, there was action people got hurt.
Ali cant have a normal chat with you or anybody because his head went through a world of pain, Floy cant because he is re ed.

[Killakobe81]

PBF has great fundamentals is extremely well coached but many casual fans find the style of play boring ...
Sounds like Spurs before 2013 tbh ...
pbf fights are boring if you don't appreciate head and shoulder movement counter punching , parrying and hand speed ...he is a boxer not a fighter.

[Mikeanaro]

me too.

Funny because In boxing I like more offensive minded boxer punchers, but in MMA, I like pin point striking defensive movers.

In MMA there is no fighters with perfect records, the sport is the show not the fighters, it is impossible to retain a perfect record with 5 minutes rounds and exhausting wrestling moves, you make 1 mistake or you are not in a perfect day and thats it.
Anderson Silva was very Mayweather like, his ego and etc, but because there is no running there is no fairytale either.

[Buddy Mignon]

He didnt clinched the whole fight against Frazier and Foreman, there were some dirty exchanges, with Frazier ended the fight pissing blood at the hospital.
There was no glove complains and stuff like that, there was action people got hurt.
Ali cant have a normal chat with you or anybody because his head went through a world of pain, Floy cant because he is re ed.

Of course he clinched. Go back and watch the Foreman or Norton fights. There are fights he should have been disqualified for so much clinching.

[Cry Havoc]

I've already proven I'm the greatest narutolova on this site.

You got that right.

Still trying to talk trash behind that account.

Biggest laughingstock in SpursTalk history.

[Buddy Mignon]

You got that right.

Still trying to talk trash behind that account.

Biggest laughingstock in SpursTalk history.

Just that fast you've bowed out. Now go back to the nerd forum.

[Cry Havoc]

Just that fast you've bowed out. Now go back to the nerd forum.

Bowed out. When you can't even talk without fellating yourself (necessary, since obviously no one else wants to) and you expect people to want to have a dialogue with you.

[Buddy Mignon]

Bowed out. When you can't even talk without fellating yourself and you expect people to want to have a dialogue with you.

so big just gets in the way... not my fault.

[HemisfairArena]

Its all subjective and I've watched a lot,,,,and I mean a lot of fights,,,,and some of the best fights I have ever seen in my time are the Gatti/Ward fights and neither of those guys will ever go down as the best ever but man want a rivalry. If some of you never saw those fights,,,,rent them.

[Cry Havoc]

so big just gets in the way... not my fault.

hurr durr

You're stupid.

[bulakenyo]

In MMA there is no fighters with perfect records, the sport is the show not the fighters, it is impossible to retain a perfect record with 5 minutes rounds and exhausting wrestling moves, you make 1 mistake or you are not in a perfect day and thats it.
Anderson Silva was very Mayweather like, his ego and etc, but because there is no running there is no fairytale either.

a serious Chael Sonnen interview a while back highlighted the difference in mentality of Pro MMA and pro boxing..

A lot of MMA guys started in wrestling, and those guys would train all year, compete all year, and would sometimes lose multiple times a day in tournaments. To their mind, losing is part of the game, however great you may be. You get disappointed at firdt, but you brush it off quickly and prepare for your next match. They like facing great compe ion, win or lose.

Boxers sometimes care too much about a pristine record. Like losing against a great opponent suddenly trashes all the other great fights you won. Like your career is over with one loss against another great fighter.

[Buddy Mignon]

hurr durr

You're stupid.

So I guess I hurt your feelings... lol

[Cry Havoc]

Its all subjective and I've watched a lot,,,,and I mean a lot of fights,,,,and some of the best fights I have ever seen in my time are the Gatti/Ward fights and neither of those guys will ever go down as the best ever but man want a rivalry. If some of you never saw those fights,,,,rent them.

Corrales vs Castillo has to be in there. That was a 10 round war.

[Cry Havoc]

So I guess I hurt your feelings... lol

You're just not worth even talking to. That's all. You still think you're tough except for that 93 page thread that's hanging around Spurstalk.

[HemisfairArena]

Corrales vs Castillo has to be in there. That was a 10 round war.

The Gatti/Ward was multiple fights with Gatti breaking his wristand pressing on,,,Ward as the huge underdog getting pummeled and coming back time and time again,,,it was the classic style vs substance.

[100%duncan]

Lol naruto

[Thebesteva]

Well that, and it's a bad list.

and "I'm not going to count fighters when Floyd was in his prime." Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

Floyd's ATG status was achieved before welterweight and then you went on to list only what, 2-3 sub 147 guys on your list? (that didn't exist while he fought regularly below 147)

You ask nicely and I'll put together a list that doesn't include ing GGG

Uhh, not as dumb as you making up. When the did I say that exactly? I said Im not counting Diego nor JLC. You're one of those guys eh? When you're clearly losing an argument you start making up quotes. You should work for the media tbh

Jimbo

[Mikeanaro]

Of course he clinched. Go back and watch the Foreman or Norton fights. There are fights he should have been disqualified for so much clinching.

Maybe, but dude was a puncher too, had an awful giant ego but faced the music he was calling his opponents ugly gorilla and to fight with them, not for ducking purposes.

[Mikeanaro]

a serious Chael Sonnen interview a while back highlighted the difference in mentality of Pro MMA and pro boxing..

A lot of MMA guys started in wrestling, and those guys would train all year, compete all year, and would sometimes lose multiple times a day in tournaments. To their mind, losing is part of the game, however great you may be. You get disappointed at firdt, but you brush it off quickly and prepare for your next match. They like facing great compe ion, win or lose.

Boxers sometimes care too much about a pristine record. Like losing against a great opponent suddenly trashes all the other great fights you won. Like your career is over with one loss against another great fighter.

I prefer Evander record over Floy boy because if you cherrypick your opponents there is no real challenge, nothing wrong about losing, because you didnt make 5 out of 50 bouts that doesnt mean you are a loser if you always fought tough guys.

[bulakenyo]

I prefer Evander record over Floy boy because if you cherrypick your opponents there is no real challenge, nothing wrong about losing, because you didnt make 5 out of 50 bouts that doesnt mean you are a loser if you always fought tough guys.

Yeah, Holyfield in his time was pretty good. Too bad he stayed way too long in the fight business. Must be because of all those kids he had.

[HemisfairArena]

Bowe/Holyfield was an epic battle also,,,dude parachuting into the ring and all,,,,

[Mikeanaro]

Yeah, Holyfield in his time was pretty good. Too bad he stayed way too long in the fight business. Must be because of all those kids he had.

He stayed too long because spent more than he could afford, like this mansion, 110 rooms 50 bathrooms and who knows what else.

Info http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/13/sp...avyweight.html
He was delusional.

[jimbo]

Uhh, not as dumb as you making up. When the did I say that exactly? I said Im not counting Diego nor JLC. You're one of those guys eh? When you're clearly losing an argument you start making up quotes. You should work for the media tbh

Jimbo

I made nothing up. I paraphrased what you said, but was just less of a w/ how I phrased it.

Let me break it down for you "Doctor."

"I'm not going to count fighters when Floyd was in his prime."

Floyd's prime was pre 147. How many guys did you list again that were in Floyd's pre 147 days? Listing ing Bradley, Khan, and GGG over actually good opponents Floyd beat . I was never good at anatomy so maybe you can help me with this one. If you've got your entire head up Manny's asshole, what organ do you think you'd reach?