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Do you need a disclaimer next time?
You might be the only person who failed to tell it was an opinion. I am willing to help you with what seems to be a great difficulty for you.
I will ask you again: is English your first language?
You just used a prepositional phrase! Identify it. I've given more than the week I'd promised.
Do you need a disclaimer next time?
You might be the only person who failed to tell it was an opinion. I am willing to help you with what seems to be a great difficulty for you.
I will ask you again: is English your first language?
The movie has the nasty, unavoidable (for serious people, not right wingers) context of the failed Iraq war and the assholes who LIED America and sicko Kyle into Iraq.
That's why it's a movie and not a do entary. Movies are made to generate profits. If false portrayal helps entertain an audience and sell tickets, then that is what to expect.
The movie has the nasty, unavoidable (for serious people, not right wingers) context of the failed Iraq war and the assholes who LIED America and sicko Kyle into Iraq.
That's like ing because Selma didn't show all of MLK's mistresses.
If one or more were present during the March, I would totally be cool with that. These were real people.
I'm pretty sure Chris Kyle was a real people too.
You want perfection, go to the movies...
That's what I said. You were to busy knee jerking a partisan comeback to realize that. Dude publicly lied his ass off. Would have been cool to see that portrayed.
Did you even read my posts or is this just a brain stem response?You want perfection, go to the movies...
I scrolled back two pages. This thread really hadn't interested me. I saw you criticizing the movie because it didn't point out all the guys flaws. I just pointed out that movies romanticize their characters and you might as well point out that Selma didn't characterize MLK as an adulterous horndog. Big ing deal.
actually selma did cover mlk's cheating ways. watch the film before talking out ya ass.
It's clear that Kyle did some 'embellishment' of the stories of his days after the war, my problem with Kyle is that these 'embellishments' might have also occurred in Kyle's stories of his sniper days in Iraq....
Notice I said ALL the mistresses. I knew it was briefly addressed in the film. His being an adulterous horndog in no way should over shadow his accomplishments. That was the point. All the es like Boo and Chump saying "but he did THIS or THIS" are just chewing sour grapes and trying to make it overshadow what he did do. Movies romanticize things. That's what they do.
lol goal post move.
I knew it was there all along!
Super defensive about Chris Kyle -- did you celebrate his day with Ironside Monday?
I did, chump. Guess you didn't.
And I'm not super defensive. I have read about what some people have said about him. Maybe true, maybe not. Don't really give a one way or another. I thought it was decent movie which like any movie can't completely capture a life or a story in an hour and a half.
You probably ed about the Lord of the Rings because it didn't have every detail from the book and romanticized some things that weren't.
I was talking about what Kyle said about himself in the book upn which this movie is based. His lies were whoppers and proved spectacularly wrong. That's all I was talking about. I said how it could have been done but would not expect his widow to want her husband's lies repeated nor would I expect a director like Eastwood to explore them.And I'm not super defensive. I have read about what some people have said about him. Maybe true, maybe not. Don't really give a one way or another. I thought it was decent movie which like any movie can't completely capture a life or a story in an hour and a half.
Do you consider The Lord of the Rings movies to be based on a true story?
That would explain a lot.
Actually, I haven't read the book. from what I understand, however, things he has been alleged to have said like the superdome sniper claim and the carjacker claim weren't in the book, but rather just claimed from alleged conversation second hand. Since you apparently read the book, is that true?
I was talking about what Kyle said about himself in the book upn which this movie is based. His lies were whoppers and proved spectacularly wrong. That's all I was talking about. I said how it could have been done but would not expect his widow to want her husband's lies repeated nor would I expect a director like Eastwood to explore them.
As far as I can tell, yes.
OK, include just the Ventura story if you want to just be faithful to the book -- the early editions of the book
Otherwise, it probably isn't too difficult to talk to the people who would confirm stories like the other ones as coming from Kyle. i'd be surprised if they didn't Since he was confirmed to be a baldfaced liar in his book, checking out the other stories to see if he acknowledged them wouldn't be impossible.
It would all make for a pretty engrossing story about how people in general and Kyle himself felt the need to add to his legend. Just another sanitized biopic is boring.
You know...if he really shot looters off the roof of the superdome, don't you think he would have put something that awesome in his book? Oh he didn't? The alleged story about the carjackers? Not there either? Dang. But it somehow confirms your bias.
As for Jesse Ventura...
I don't know if it's true or not but I hope it was. Guy is a ing Joke. But hey, you want to defend him, fine.
Neither one of us knows the real truth but you and Boo feel free to convict Chris Kyle posthumously as being a worthless liar.
why would he put super secret stuff like that in his book?
Don't have to defend anyone. Look at the court decision.As for Jesse Ventura...
I don't know if it's true or not but I hope it was. Guy is a ing Joke. But hey, you want to defend him, fine.
Nice straw man, CC. I can tell you're upset about this.Neither one of us knows the real truth but you and Boo feel free to convict the Chris Kyle posthumously as being a worthless liar.
I never said he was worthless. I said he was a proven liar who felt the need to embellish his own legend that really didn't need it. Rather than deal directly with that issue, the movie apparently just continued it. Which is pretty boring.
I'm glad they included not so nice things about MLK in Selma. I guess you only think of him as a worthless cheat if your own logic is valid.
You and Boo share the same dirty, semen stained jockstrap on this one. Sorry you were bored by the movie you never saw and made up about the book you never read.
And in with the ad hominems.
You and Boo share the same dirty, semen stained jockstrap on this one. Sorry you were bored by the movie you never saw and made up about the book you never read.
You're really upset now. It's OK, you had to take a defensive stance from the start because Kyle isn't perfect. No one himself like you did, though you tried to reverse the whip with the MLK movie you didn't see.
I'm going to watch both movies eventually. Eastwood makes usually good, not great movies. Ironically his best work had to do with dispelling myths and telling the rest of the story -- Unforgiven, both Iwo Jima movies. And I've heard good things about Selma, though I don't expect to see a shot of LBJ's berating his staff while taking a -- that would be great.
But you are only interested in protecting your political movie ideals and dug in just like boutons would do to make the discussion purely political, and now purely personal.
Great job!
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