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Once again forum participants err by taking anything mookie2001 types seriously.
Though if someone can translate that last post into plain English that would be much appreciated.
So what you're saying is they should not have the option at all.
I say we make sure they don't use that ability irresponsibly.
Once again forum participants err by taking anything mookie2001 types seriously.
Though if someone can translate that last post into plain English that would be much appreciated.
So, you're equating blacks to criminals or people with something to hide?
Segregation wasn't okay because is denied blacks equal protection, under the law.
Even if it were possible to monitor EVERYONE, why would they? And, wouldn't it just about take everyone else to keep tabs on each other?
the technology will be so cheap, small and intergrated into everything, they would be foolish not use it in the future
You miss the point. Even if the technology allows them to aggregate all sorts of information on everybody and store it in some HAL computer, who the is going to parse all that data?
Open the pod bay door, Hal...and let Mookie out.
I don’t think the article proves the system works...It proves Big Brother got caught that’s all...And you don’t know that they are not RIGHT NOW monitoring peoples conversations since Onstar has made it so easy...
Tivo, Onstar, Cell Phones, Grocery Store Cards, Even your lunch thermos....Are all used to set up profiles & Spy on people....
I don't have any of those things. Nope, not even a lunch thermos.
you CANNOT understand the technology
you wont need someone
it will part of the system
do you understand nanotechnolgy, internet 2, the multistate terrorism and information exchange
how much progress have we made in 10 years
imagine in 10 more, its on a jcurve
Once you have children, and you look into their eyes and they look back at yours, you'll realize that you need OnStar*.
And what, pray tell, will "the system" do with this information?
what a creepy scene
It can happen though. The gayest thing of all will be that there will have been so many authors and 'paranoids' warning us from step 1.
I should change my real name to a really smug name, change my username to my new real name, and then scoff people with different, alternate usernames at random.
What will happen?
It can happen though. The gayest thing of all will be that there will have been so many authors and 'paranoids' warning us from step 1.
they already have it tro
the matrix
google it
someone hacked already
For what legitimate purpose(s) are they going to be keeping tabs on you that would justify going through all of this time & expense?
SW have you read the posts above?
a HAL-like scenario
technology is moving at ridiculous speed
we can only imagine how power hungry the people at the top are. just waiting for an opportunity to exploit everyone else for their own personal agendas.
You guys need help.
It's clear that dookie2001 and Cant_Be_Mated are worried about the Neocons snooping in on their passionate cornholing in the back of a GM SUV.
Darsh!
The Panopticon
noun.
A type of prison building designed by the philosopher Jeremy Bentham. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell if they are being observed or not, thus conveying a "sentiment of an invisible omniscience":
Morals reformed - health preserved - industry invigorated instruction diffused - public burthens lightened - Economy seated, as it were, upon a rock - the gordian knot of the Poor-Laws are not cut, but untied - all by a simple idea in Architecture!-
Jeremy Bentham[1]
The architectural figure "incorporates a tower central to an annular building that is divided into cells, each cell extending the entire thickness of the building to allow inner and outer windows. The occupants of the cells . . . are thus backlit, isolated from one another by walls, and subject to scrutiny both collectively and individually by an observer in the tower who remains unseen. Toward this end, Bentham envisioned not only venetian blinds on the tower observation ports but also mazelike connections among tower rooms to avoid glints of light or noise that might betray the presence of an observer." [2]
Bentham derived the idea from the plan of a factory designed for easy supervision, itself conceived by his brother Samuel who arrived to it as a solution to the complexities involved in the handling of large numbers of men. Bentham supplemented this principle with the idea of contract management, that is, an administration by contract as opposed to trust, where the director would have a pecuniary interest in lowering the average rate of mortality. The Panopticon was intended to be cheaper than that of the prisons of his time, as it required less staff; "Allow me to construct a prison on this model," Bentham requested to a Committee for the Reform of Criminal Law, "I will be the gaoler. You will see [...] that the gaoler will have no salary -- will cost nothing to the nation." As the watchmen cannot be seen, they need not be on duty at all times, effectively leaving the watching to the watched.
Bentham devoted a large part of his time and almost his whole fortune to promote the construction of a prison based on his scheme. After many years and innumerable political and financial difficulties, he eventually obtained a favourable sanction from Parliament for the purchase of a place to erect the prison, but in 1811 and after the King refused to authorize the purchase of the land, the project was finally aborted. In 1813 he was awarded a sum of £23,000 in compensation for his monetary loss which, however, did little to alleviate Bentham's ensuing unhappiness for the miscarriage.
While the design did not come to fruition during Bentham's time, it has been seen as an important development. For instance, the design was invoked by Michel Foucault (in "Discipline and Punish") as metaphor for modern "disciplinary" societies and its pervasive inclination to observe and normalize. Foucault proposes that not only prisons but all hierarchical structures like the army, the school, the hospital and the factory have evolved through history to resemble Bentham's Panopticon. The notoriety of the design today (although not its lasting influence in architectural realities) stems from Foucault's famous analysis of it.
The Panopticon influenced the design of Pentonville Prison, Armagh Gaol [1], Eastern State Penitentiary [2], and several other Victorian prisons.
The Panopticon was likewise later suggested as an "open" hospital architecture: "Hospitals required knowledge of contacts, contagions, proximity and crowding... at the same time to divide space and keep it open, assuring a surveillance which is both global and individualising", 1977 interview (preface to French edition of Jeremy Bentham's "Panopticon").
Critics argue this technology and philosophy could be expanded to society as a whole. Many areas have seen an incremental creep of closed-circuit television surveillance such as at stoplights and in city centres like London where video cameras are used to reduce the risk of crime. In the contemporary setting, call centres, with heavily surveilled employees, realise the idea behind Panopticon in a 21st century setting - where the gaze of a superior is always present in every conversation and internalised in every good employee
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