Marjanovic diagnosed with bone edema

[ceperez]

They haven't said something like that. I will try to explain better what I meant by that.

Marjanovic has a bone edema. There is a 95% odd (made up number) that playing with his NT will have no consequences and there is a 5% odd that the bone edema turns into a break that will sideline Marjanovic for at least a couple of months.
- Spurs are worried about these 5% and that's why the don't allow him to play.
- Serbian NT doctors considers that it's a very low risk that doesn't necessitate Marjanovic not playing with the NT.


Well, it's debatable.
During his youth, people in Serbia have spend a lot time and money to develop him as a basketball player. One can say it creates a moral debt and that playing for the NT is a way to pay it while Marjanovic won't really be able to help Serbian basketball when he is in SA.

At the end it's a question of personal moral values that isn't limited to basketball.
For example, in a country like France, studies to be an engineer, which are expensive, are often free and are paid by the state. Is it fine that someone at the end of its studies decides to work at the silicon valley and never come back to France?

Great analysis. You should be an advisor for the Spurs with regards to international players.

You are right here that Boban and his handlers have major pressure to have him play for the NT.

[Axegrinder]

From Javtokas freek accident to Bartnes twice tearing his knees, to now Marjanovic, is there a curse causing every international spurs player to get injured?

What is it with you and curses? You a gypsy or something?

[littlecoyotecoin]

They haven't said something like that. I will try to explain better what I meant by that.

Marjanovic has a bone edema. There is a 95% odd (made up number) that playing with his NT will have no consequences and there is a 5% odd that the bone edema turns into a break that will sideline Marjanovic for at least a couple of months.
- Spurs are worried about these 5% and that's why the don't allow him to play.
- Serbian NT doctors considers that it's a very low risk that doesn't necessitate Marjanovic not playing with the NT.


Well, it's debatable.
During his youth, people in Serbia have spend a lot time and money to develop him as a basketball player. One can say it creates a moral debt and that playing for the NT is a way to pay it while Marjanovic won't really be able to help Serbian basketball when he is in SA.

At the end it's a question of personal moral values that isn't limited to basketball.
For example, in a country like France, studies to be an engineer, which are expensive, are often free and are paid by the state. Is it fine that someone at the end of its studies decides to work at the silicon valley and never come back to France?

Yes. Quite a moral dilemma. Even further, that if the state provides something that is "free", even though it was ostensibly paid for with tax dollars (possibly your own) of some kind, the state somehow owns your ass. It is a conundrum.

[Gladney to see you]

I noticed...a lot of foreign centers do this dip move and it totally exposes them to being blocked. He seems to make himself 6'10" much of the time.

[Mamuza94]

Thank you for posting that. Djilas is certainly more business like that the agent was. And I see this as a very unfortunate conflict of interests for both sides. I do wonder, however, why this letter is available to the public, as opposed to just sent privately to the Spurs? Is this normal?

Best, Bill

Look, basketball in Serbia is huge. And Serbian public has to know everything. Basketball Federation is now under pressure because of this situation and we can say that this is normal.

BTW. i think it's re ed to discuss about which side pay him. Cuz, it's not all about $. I'd give a kidney to be able to represent Serbia.

[RD2191]

Why is scrubonovic still on the team?

[Plum Island]

Look, basketball in Serbia is huge. And Serbian public has to know everything. Basketball Federation is now under pressure because of this situation and we can say that this is normal.

BTW. i think it's re ed to discuss about which side pay him. Cuz, it's not all about $. I'd give a kidney to be able to represent Serbia.

That would be a bad move. Give up a kidney and the Spurs will step in and not allow you to play.
And then there you'll be: alone in a tub full of ice, lees one kidney and playing basketball for nobody.

[Mamuza94]

That would be a bad move. Give up a kidney and the Spurs will step in and not allow you to play.
And then there you'll be: alone in a tub full of ice, lees one kidney and playing basketball for nobody.

Who said basketball?

[littlecoyotecoin]

BTW. i think it's re ed to discuss about which side pay him. Cuz, it's not all about $. I'd give a kidney to be able to represent Serbia.

That is a very stupid statement. Someone has to pay him. You may want to play for free, but you're also probably not under contract to play for someone else for 1.5 million dollars. Just guessin'. He isn't going to play for free, because he CAN, and IS monetizing his skill. As soon as he signs that contract, the rules apply to him. Chinook's proposal is more than fair, and it is re ed for you or anyone else to expect them to take risk they are contractually allowed to avoid. The Spurs would be being very generous to allow him out of the contract given Chinook's terms. And it would be re ed to expect them to pay him 1.5 million if he plays on an injured foot against their wishes.

Letting him and Serbia take the risk, and giving The Spurs back their open roster spot at no cost,other than opportunity cost of pursuing other players that have now been signed by other teams, seems like a good solution if you want him to play. That you would argue against that is a little bizarre. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. That probably doesn't translate well, but that doesn't mean you get to.

[Dex]

If the Spurs stuck to their guns with Manu, one of their franchise's most respected players, and sat him out of the NT even though he obviously disagreed with it, I highly suspect they will be doing the same with Boban. Unless, like others have mentioned, there are significant changes to the structure of his contract...and I really don't see that happening.

[Mamuza94]

That is a very stupid statement. Someone has to pay him. You may want to play for free, but you're also probably not under contract to play for someone else for 1.5 million dollars. Just guessin'. He isn't going to play for free, because he CAN, and IS monetizing his skill. As soon as he signs that contract, the rules apply to him. Chinook's proposal is more than fair, and it is re ed for you or anyone else to expect them to take risk they are contractually allowed to avoid. The Spurs would be being very generous to allow him out of the contract given Chinook's terms. And it would be re ed to expect them to pay him 1.5 million if he plays on an injured foot against their wishes.

Letting him and Serbia take the risk, and giving The Spurs back their open roster spot at no cost,other than opportunity cost of pursuing other players that have now been signed by other teams, seems like a good solution if you want him to play. That you would argue against that is a little bizarre. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. That probably doesn't translate well, but that doesn't mean you get to.

You didn't understand me. I thought from player point of view, you know: "Spurs pay me, i'll play for them". Ofc, from other side, it's all about contract and it's normal.

[jeebus]

I don't see why the Sperms don't just let him play. He's going to spend most of next season in a suit anyways, with maybe an hour of total playing time, tops.

[Obstructed_View]

If the Spurs stuck to their guns with Manu, one of their franchise's most respected players, and sat him out of the NT even though he obviously disagreed with it, I highly suspect they will be doing the same with Boban. Unless, like others have mentioned, there are significant changes to the structure of his contract...and I really don't see that happening.

In both situations, it's possible that the Spurs come in and make a decree so they can take the heat instead of the player. Rabid international fanbases, like any rabid fanbase, tends not to be rational at times.

[littlecoyotecoin]

You didn't understud me. I thought from player point of view, you know: "Spurs pay me, i'll play for them". Ofc, from other side, it's all about contract and it's normal.

Apparently I did not. I don't think Chinook's proposal would be done. It would be very unusual. But, I would love to see it happen. They can just tell him that if he plays, they may go a different route, and dump him. This may be a smart move for them to get out of his contract if they were unaware of his foot issues before his coach started talking to the press about him playing on an injured foot. I would be surprised if they didn't know about that before the press mention, but it seems like they might not have based upon the actions that followed.

I know that it's a big enough red flag for me that I wouldn't mind them looking at other options. If they decided to cut Boban loose if he was to agree to Chinook's proposed deal, could I blame The Spurs? No way.

That would pretty much just put it in Boban's court. Amend your deal, play for the NT, and maybe not The Spurs. Adios, buh bye.

Won't happen, but let's do it!

Hate the idea of this guy having foot issues even before he shows up to training camp.

[Uriel]

Dragan Djilas, presiden of Serbian Basketball sent a letter to RC.

http://www.kss.rs/wp-content/uploads...Marjanovic.pdf

This is a nice letter, atrocious grammar aside. Just goes to prove that tact and diplomacy are way more effective bargaining tools than brute force.

[littlecoyotecoin]

In both situations, it's possible that the Spurs come in and make a decree so they can take the heat instead of the player. Rabid international fanbases, like any rabid fanbase, tends not to be rational at times.

Yes. This seems quite possible. It is the smooth poker play. Very plausible.

[ceperez]

Apparently I did not. I don't think Chinook's proposal would be done. It would be very unusual. But, I would love to see it happen. They can just tell him that if he plays, they may go a different route, and dump him. This may be a smart move for them to get out of his contract if they were unaware of his foot issues before his coach started talking to the press about him playing on an injured foot. I would be surprised if they didn't know about that before the press mention, but it seems like they might not have based upon the actions that followed.

I know that it's a big enough red flag for me that I wouldn't mind them looking at other options. If they decided to cut Boban loose if he was to agree to Chinook's proposed deal, could I blame The Spurs? No way.

That would pretty much just put it in Boban's court. Amend your deal, play for the NT, and maybe not The Spurs. Adios, buh bye.

Won't happen, but let's do it!

Hate the idea of this guy having foot issues even before he shows up to training camp.

I agree... amend the deal... let Boban play for the NT... if he comes back as a damage set of goods... then his deal with the Spurs is void. That way, all risk is on the Serbian NT camp.

Spurs want Boban coming in to training camp with the best of health. Difficult to ensure that if he's stressing his foot out in NT play.

[venitian navigator]

I wonder if it's possible to mantain the structure of the present contract (I mean with the qualifyng offer of 1.500.000 for the second year) if the contract is switched from a guaranteed to a non guaranteed...

[Dex]

In both situations, it's possible that the Spurs come in and make a decree so they can take the heat instead of the player. Rabid international fanbases, like any rabid fanbase, tends not to be rational at times.

I sincerely hope this is the case. While there is obviously the injury concern to deal with, I really would hate for Boban's first interaction with the Spurs to be bad blood over being denied his NT rights or a feud between his agent and the franchise that just signed him.

[Chinook]

I wonder if it's possible to mantain the structure of the present contract (I mean with the qualifyng offer of 1.500.000 for the second year) if the contract is switched from a guaranteed to a non guaranteed...

Yes.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I sincerely hope this is the case. While there is obviously the injury concern to deal with, I really would hate for Boban's first interaction with the Spurs to be bad blood over being denied his NT rights or a feud between his agent and the franchise that just signed him.

Yes. Definitely better if they are just playing the heavy, and not being the heavy. As long as the agent is just saving face, coaches, etc, all can remain calm backstage, and allow the masses to consume the fued/war.

Really was interested in seeing what a healthy Boban could do for The Spurs. An exciting wrinkle to an already great team.

[kobyz]

What is it with you and curses? You a gypsy or something?

It just that i don't belive in accidental or coincidence...

[ceperez]

Yes. Definitely better if they are just playing the heavy, and not being the heavy. As long as the agent is just saving face, coaches, etc, all can remain calm backstage, and allow the masses to consume the fued/war.

Really was interested in seeing what a healthy Boban could do for The Spurs. An exciting wrinkle to an already great team.

Serbian masses want to see some heads roll for this debacle. Our MVP center can't play for the mother land because some American capitalist owns his rights???

This is certainly blow up in the news media over there in Belgrade.

I can see in now, all the op eds over in Serbia demanding that Serbian basketball players be protected from predatory NBA teams.

[Dex]

Serbian masses want to see some heads roll for this debacle. Our MVP center can't play for the mother land because some American capitalist owns his rights???

This is certainly blow up in the news media over there in Belgrade.

I can see in now, all the op eds over in Serbia demanding that Serbian basketball players be protected from predatory NBA teams.

So this is how Cold War II starts.

[lil'mo]

Let him play, it. It's not worth the bad blood.