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  1. #126
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    Leonard is good no doubt. Those other guys didn't need a system to become good.
    Yeah, hitting threes off the dribble at a higher than 40% clip and being one of the most efficient one on one scorers in the league is all about the system.

  2. #127
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    Yeah, hitting threes off the dribble at a higher than 40% clip and being one of the most efficient one on one scorers in the league is all about the system.
    Not to mention the Spurs' "system" has completely changed since Kawhi broke out

  3. #128
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    1. LeBron
    2. Kawhi
    3. Curry
    4. Durant
    5. Paul
    6. Westbrook
    7. Griffin
    8. Harden
    9. Davis
    10. Cousins

  4. #129
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    Lebron wasn't even thee man on his own team in the finals last season; and it's not like he dominates the regular season any more either. Whereas, Kawhi is getting it done on both sides of the ball, night in and night out as he carries a slightly diminishing team on his back.
    lol I can't defend this.

  5. #130
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    lol I can't defend this.
    That said, I can still see ranking Lebron as #1 at this point.

  6. #131
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    Kahwi is somewhere between 4th and 7th right now. I'll take that for a 2-way player any day of the week though. Seriously, DPOY candidate for a 3rd straight year playing offensive hoops with the likes of Lebron, Curry and Westbrook? If you are hating on that, you are just hating.

  7. #132
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    * It's subject to change on month-to-month basis. Only Lebron place as best player in the leagure is undisputable and will remain so til someone severely outplays him in the playoffs and he shows noticeable signs of decline, which he hasn't.

    1- Lebron (duh!)

    2- Durant (showcasing how good of defensive player he's, GSW helps (playing many mins against 2nd units), but his efficiency has been ungodly..still Beta tho)

    3- Kawhi (led the team to 2nd best record having Patty freakin' Mills as his most reliable sidekick .. Spurs probably have the most overrated roster in the NBA; bunch of washed-up names with Softridge barely playing like a top 30 player in the league)

    4- Westbrook (dude pulling the mother of all "carrying scrubs" jobs, warts and all)

    5- Paul: (still the best pure PG in the league)

    6- Curry: (KD has taken the luster and mystique out of him, but his defensive regression and inability to switch to PS mode (only 32% off the dribble 3PT this season) has him looking very mortal)

    7- Harden: (nice bounce-back year)

    8- Davis (he was probably the best player in NBA through November..cooled off lately.)

    9- Butler (this might be his peak season, he is at that age, 27.)

    10- Giannis (biggest leap of any player this season)

    -----didn't make the cut---

    * Blake Griffin: sorry, you have all the talent in the world, but your softness is maddening, tbh.
    * Paul George: Out of all elite wings, he seems like the one who has really plateaued, if not slightly regressed...

    Wait, Leonard better than Davis, Paul, Westbrook, George, Harden, and Aldridge?



    And you wonder where that djohn deliberate obtuseness in the Klay thread is coming from..he is been bad for A while..

  8. #133
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    This season imo:

    1. LeBron
    2. Westbrook
    3. Durant
    4. Kawhi
    5. Harden
    6. Curry
    7. Paul
    8. Giannis
    9. Davis
    10. Butler

  9. #134
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    1. LeBron
    2. Porzingis
    3. AlphaBrook




    The Rest

  10. #135
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    First we can start with you saying Kawhi is better than LeBron
    HUGE Spurs fan but NO, not even close lol.

  11. #136
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    * It's subject to change on month-to-month basis. Only Lebron place as best player in the leagure is undisputable and will remain so til someone severely outplays him in the playoffs and he shows noticeable signs of decline, which he hasn't.

    1- Lebron (duh!)

    2- Durant (showcasing how good of defensive player he's, GSW helps (playing many mins against 2nd units), but his efficiency has been ungodly..still Beta tho)

    3- Kawhi (led the team to 2nd best record having Patty freakin' Mills as his most reliable sidekick .. Spurs probably have the most overrated roster in the NBA; bunch of washed-up names with Softridge barely playing like a top 30 player in the league)

    4- Westbrook (dude pulling the mother of all "carrying scrubs" jobs, warts and all)

    5- Paul: (still the best pure PG in the league)

    6- Curry: (KD has taken the luster and mystique out of him, but his defensive regression and inability to switch to PS mode (only 32% off the dribble 3PT this season) has him looking very mortal)

    7- Harden: (nice bounce-back year)

    8- Davis (he was probably the best player in NBA through November..cooled off lately.)

    9- Butler (this might be his peak season, he is at that age, 27.)

    10- Giannis (biggest leap of any player this season)

    -----didn't make the cut---

    * Blake Griffin: sorry, you have all the talent in the world, but your softness is maddening, tbh.
    * Paul George: Out of all elite wings, he seems like the one who has really plateaued, if not slightly regressed...






    And you wonder where that djohn deliberate obtuseness in the Klay thread is coming from..he is been bad for A while..
    Just like I said yesterday on Curry




  12. #137
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    Who'd the Cavs go to when they needed the winning shot? It wasn't LeChoke.
    "LeChoke" won the Finals with the greatest block in NBA history. The Kang's haters want to obsess over how one of Kyrie's chucks went in, but it was The Block! that crushed the Warriors' spirit once and for all.

    Additionally, from 2001-2015 (unfortunately the most recent stats I could find), "LeChoke" made more playoff game-winners than Duncan, Manu, Dirk, Kidd, Shaq, or Chauncey.

  13. #138
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    Just like I said yesterday on Curry



    Interesting. Will Curry pull a Kobe and run Durbeta offPERIOD? He already pulled a Kobe on draft day - his people told Minnesota not to draft him under any cir stances because he didn't want to play there.

  14. #139
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    "LeChoke" won the Finals with the greatest block in NBA history. The Kang's haters want to obsess over how one of Kyrie's chucks went in, but it was The Block! that crushed the Warriors' spirit once and for all.

    Additionally, from 2001-2015 (unfortunately the most recent stats I could find), "LeChoke" made more playoff game-winners than Duncan, Manu, Dirk, Kidd, Shaq, or Chauncey.
    Agudola playing injured or that block never happens.

  15. #140
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    5- Paul: (still the best pure PG in the league)

    6- Curry: (KD has taken the luster and mystique out of him, but his defensive regression and inability to switch to PS mode (only 32% off the dribble 3PT this season) has him looking very mortal)

    7- Harden: (nice bounce-back year)
    Choke-P better than Curry, who has owned him since the '14 playoffs, & Harden, whose team has the same record w/ an inferior talent.

    Top 3 PGs:

    -Harden
    -WestBrick
    -Curry

    ....but somehow Choke-P is the 5th best player in the league.

  16. #141
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    Choke-P better than Curry, who has owned him since the '14 playoffs, & Harden, whose team has the same record w/ an inferior talent.

    Go look at the stats: Steph has lowkey regressed to his 2014 levels

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    I know it may change in the course of the season, but Curry isn't even Top 5 player in the league right now..remember when you get shocked if he missed an off-dribble 3 pointer last year..His finishing around rim is down and his defense has slipped big time..

  18. #143
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    Go look at the stats: Steph has lowkey regressed to his 2014 levels
    Baby Steph gave PRIME Choke-P the business in the 2014 postseason: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...playoffs::none

    Even without his shot falling (although he killed Choke-P off cuts in the 1st quarter blowout), Curry outplayed him on BOTH ends during their most recent H2H. (Choke-P stat padded in glorified garbage time ala 2014 Final LeBron)

  19. #144
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    I know it may change in the course of the season, but Curry isn't even Top 5 player in the league right now, his defense has slipped big time..
    He looks like the DPOY every time he goes up against the Cripples, tbh.


  20. #145
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    Agudla playing injured r that blck never happens.
    If Irving and Love weren't injured, Iguodala would still be ringless.

  21. #146
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    If Irving and Love weren't injured, Iguodala would still be ringless.
    Even if true, you're not making the case for Lebron's greatness.

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    He looks like the DPOY every time he goes up against the Cripples, tbh.

    Cherrypicking some dumb sh**? No, Curry's not a very good defender.

  23. #148
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    Lebron sits; Cavs get destroyed by the reeling Pistons...He is vasically the difference between them being co- le favorites and a lottery team in the East..

  24. #149
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    Update:

    1-Lebron
    2-Durant
    3-Curry
    4-Kawhi
    5a-Westbrook
    5b-Harden
    5c-Davis
    8-CP3
    9-Cousins
    10-PG13

  25. #150
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    Update:

    1-Lebron
    2-Durant
    3-Curry
    4-Kawhi
    5a-Westbrook
    5b-Harden
    5c-Davis
    8-CP3
    9-Cousins
    10-PG13
    Cousins is carrying the kings to a playoff record and almost an inden al statsitical feats as Davis. That nutcase is the best big in the NBA.

    Players who have never made it to the playoffs or won a game in the playoffs should never ever be considered top 5. Paul George has been trash all year.

    Kawhi is outscoring curry whose only responsibility is to score.

    Lebron
    Kawhi
    Durant
    Harden
    Curry
    Westbrook

    Doesnt really matter, but cousins is the best of the next bunch.

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