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    Martin has been a net negative player for the past 4 years IIRC, but that has been mostly in a high-usage role..

    His flaws are fatal in the playoffs (one of the worst defensive players in the NBA, extremely reliant on drawing cheap fouls, etc), but it shouldn't be a big deal in a 15 MPG playoffs role..the problem with Beli is that Pop tried to play him at Green's expense until he realized it wasn't working..

    Martin receiving 20+ would be bad for the Spurs, probably, but he would be fine in a Barbosa role..

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    I didn't remember that Baynes was a mid-season acquisition. I'll take Andre and Kevin for Ray and Bonner. That's good.
    Ray/Bonner are essentially James Anderson/Stephen Jackson.

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    I`ll be back at 40th page. See you`ll later

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    This is a shooters league and K Mart is a shooter. Would love to have him if he comes.

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    Martin has been a net negative player for the past 4 years IIRC, but that has been mostly in a high-usage role..

    His flaws are fatal in the playoffs (one of the worst defensive players in the NBA, extremely reliant on drawing cheap fouls, etc), but it shouldn't be a big deal in a 15 MPG playoffs role..the problem with Beli is that Pop tried to play him at Green's expense until he realized it wasn't working..

    Martin receiving 20+ would be bad for the Spurs, probably, but he would be fine in a Barbosa role..

    This, and unlike Beli Martin won't be as familiar with the Spurs' system so I doubt Pop will play him anywhere near Green's minutes (and if he does he's gone full senile).

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    Martin has been a net negative player for the past 4 years IIRC, but that has been mostly in a high-usage role..

    His flaws are fatal in the playoffs (one of the worst defensive players in the NBA, extremely reliant on drawing cheap fouls, etc), but it shouldn't be a big deal in a 15 MPG playoffs role..the problem with Beli is that Pop tried to play him at Green's expense until he realized it wasn't working..

    Martin receiving 20+ would be bad for the Spurs, probably, but he would be fine in a Barbosa role..
    The rules changes for the rip-through move were instated during the 2011-12 season where he had his most efficient season while playing a 6th man role. His fatal flaw during the 2014 postseason was being asked to play the wingman role against the Grizz after Westbrook got injured.

    He's basically going to be asked to play a 10th man role w/ the bench mob (ala Barbosa) rather than the 6th man (ala Crawfrod) & he isn't as horrific as Marco/Gary Neal on defense even though that isn't saying much.

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    I think Spurs are looking for shooters, ball handlers, and enough defense to handle switches late in the shot clock. Martin can handle and shoot, and while not a great defender he has length, which helps on defense.

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    Again the guy averaged 20pts per game last season. And instantly becomes 4th best scorer on the team. Does he have flaws? Yes. But he can shoot it and won't miss open shots which he will get in playing off the bench. It's a low risk high reward and a no brainier if he becomes available.

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    Wait, does this mean the buyout's complete?

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    The Miller signing is a smoke screen to induce Minny to buy out Martin, under the belief that we would not sign him now.

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    Wait, does this mean the buyout's complete?
    Some fan at the Wolves Pelicans game said on twitter that Martin wasn't in warm-ups.

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    Spurs official website treating this as done deal??

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    Spurs official website treating this as done deal??
    Nah just some Fan made it.

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    Spurs official website treating this as done deal??
    No, someone called VN Design is.

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    Yea these pictures seem premature..? Nothing is done yet. The Twolves haven't even bought Martin's contract out yet.

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    If it pushes Bonner up stairs then its a nice move and would give Manu some more time to heal.

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    I'm late to the party. Who were the casualties of Miller and Martin? Please don't say we got rid of Butler...I'd rather lose Ray...

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    I'm late to the party. Who were the casualties of Miller and Martin? Please don't say we got rid of Butler...I'd rather lose Ray...
    No one will be waived until tomorrow

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    If this means, Manu is done, this won't cut it. But if it means no more Ginger , then I'll be the happiest Spurs fan in the world.

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    I'm late to the party. Who were the casualties of Miller and Martin? Please don't say we got rid of Butler...I'd rather lose Ray...
    Miller seems real. Martin, however, is still just smoke.

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    No one will be waived until tomorrow
    Cheers for the update. But two players have to be waived, right? Damn it, Bonner, sure but I would rather keep Butler.

    If this means, Manu is done, this won't cut it. But if it means no more Ginger , then I'll be the happiest Spurs fan in the world.
    God, please don't even joke about that. I would fall into a deep, deep, depression if it were the case.

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    Miller seems real. Martin, however, is still just smoke.
    Cheers man. Thanks.

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    I'm late to the party. Who were the casualties of Miller and Martin? Please don't say we got rid of Butler...I'd rather lose Ray...
    No one is being officially waived until tomorrow. Miller is all but signed; his agent came out and confirmed that he'd be signing with the Spurs once he clears waivers.

    Martin isn't a sure thing yet. Initially reports came out that the Spurs were favorites to sign him, but about an hour later we learned that they signed Andre Miller Not sure if they're still working on getting Martin or not. Martin still hasn't even reached a buyout agreement yet. Believe Monday is the last day he can be waived if he wants to be playoff eligible.

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    I see Martin on the Wolves bench still in uniform

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