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    How many gays come from a family of gays?
    that's dumb.

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    It's a disorder that affects millions, not entirely unlike autism.

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    Dumb is thinking we will find a born sexual from a family tree of heterosexuals.

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    Dumb is thinking we will find a born sexual from a family tree of heterosexuals.
    you're assuming that every single person that has a predisposition is going to accept it and lead a totally gay lifestyle.
    and you also do understand that traits can be hidden or shown to different degrees?

    Is Mason half re ed?

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    Dumb is thinking we will find a born sexual from a family tree of heterosexuals.
    You're so stupid.

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    Pedovante going full religi ITT

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    you're assuming that every single person that has a predisposition is going to accept it and lead a totally gay lifestyle.
    and you also do understand that traits can be hidden or shown to different degrees?

    Is Mason half re ed?
    I'm not assuming anything. There is no proof of any kind that a gay gene exists. And we know it's not heredity which was my point there.

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    I never thought about it, who does, oh yeah... sexuals.

    Show me the scientific evidence that there is a gay gene.

    And people do things all the time that are hurtful to themselves. Who was born a drug addict, alcoholic, crook/criminal? We all make bad decisions, smoking?
    "I never thought about it" makes no sense. You are calling sexuality a choice but are now saying you never chose yours.

    Smoking drinking and drug use come from peer pressure a lot of times. Depression. And then addiction. Crimes like theft usually come from those desperate for a buck.

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    Smoking drinking and drug use come from peer pressure a lot of times. Depression. And then addiction. Crimes like theft usually come from those desperate for a buck.
    You said...a lot of times....right? What does that mean? Put a % to that.

    What's your take on this?

    "In a nuts , if you take pairs of identical twins in which one twin is sexual, the identical co-twin is usually not sexual. That means, given that identical twins are always genetically identical, sexuality cannot be genetically dictated. No-one is born gay." by Dr. Neil Whitehead, from the book, My Genes Made Me Do It! - a Scientific Look at Sexual Orientation, a review of more than 20 years of scientific research into sexuality from more than 10,000 scientific papers and publications

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    You said...a lot of times....right? What does that mean? Put a % to that.

    What's your take on this?

    "In a nuts , if you take pairs of identical twins in which one twin is sexual, the identical co-twin is usually not sexual. That means, given that identical twins are always genetically identical, sexuality cannot be genetically dictated. No-one is born gay." by Dr. Neil Whitehead, from the book, My Genes Made Me Do It! - a Scientific Look at Sexual Orientation, a review of more than 20 years of scientific research into sexuality from more than 10,000 scientific papers and publications
    Why do you never link your quotes? Is it because you got it from a bible beater website?

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    I'm not assuming anything. There is no proof of any kind that a gay gene exists. And we know it's not heredity which was my point there.
    I don't know about proof of a gay gene. I haven't done a bunch of research on it. But it's clear that some men are born with something (a gene or whatever) that makes them more effeminate and/or with a predilection for the same sex. And vice versa with women. Sometimes this gets accepted and fostered and sometimes, parents and/or society forces them to fight it. I'm sure in some cases, it could be something learned or developed due to a traumatic event. But I believe that a large part of gay people were in effect "born that way".

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    If sexuality was purely genetic "you got it or ya dont" thing it would have been wiped out a long time ago due to natural selection (a theory you don't believe in). There are many things about people's personalities that aren't purely genetic but at the same time are not "choices.

    Gene expression is a very complicated concept. Two people born with the same gene might not express that gene unless it gets triggered
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    I don't know about proof of a gay gene. I haven't done a bunch of research on it. But it's clear that some men are born with something (a gene or whatever) that makes them more effeminate and/or with a predilection for the same sex. And vice versa with women. Sometimes this gets accepted and fostered and sometimes, parents and/or society forces them to fight it. I'm sure in some cases, it could be something learned or developed due to a traumatic event. But I believe that a large part of gay people were in effect "born that way".
    Ok that's cool, an opinion without any actual proof.

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    Ok that's cool, an opinion without any actual proof.
    Observational proof. Plenty out there.

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    If sexuality was purely genetic it would have been wiped out a long time ago due to natural selection (a theory you don't believe in). There are many things about people's personalities that aren't purely genetic but at the same time are not "choices.
    Where is the evidence supporting the claim that sexuality is a born trait?

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    Observational proof. Plenty out there.
    Such as what?

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    I'm not going to get into some kind of Chumpdumper debate with you. I don't give a enough of a . If I were still allowed to start threads, I doubt I'd be arguing with you in the first place.
    Here's some reading for you though.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health...planation.html

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    lol thinking people choose to be gay then hide in the closet for decades

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    Where is the evidence supporting the claim that sexuality is a born trait?
    You're so stupid.

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    lol thinking people choose to be gay then hide in the closet for decades
    and further lol at an admitted pedophile arguing the case

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    I'm not going to get into some kind of Chumpdumper debate with you. I don't give a enough of a . If I were still allowed to start threads, I doubt I'd be arguing with you in the first place.
    Here's some reading for you though.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health...planation.html
    So you went from plenty of observational proof to frustration when asked to prove that statement?

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    lol thinking people choose to be gay then hide in the closet for decades
    Drug addict choosing to be that hiding it from everyone, happens all the time.

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    Who can show me anything proving that sexuality is a botn trait?

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    Avante, how would you explain sexual behavior in other primates and mammals? Bonobos, dolphins?

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    Drug addict choosing to be that hiding it from everyone, happens all the time.
    already explained drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc. you're just ignoring now. nobody CHOOSES to be an addict

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