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  1. #126
    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Regardless, you don't hire the first person you interview.

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    Rsx ....just fyi...they made this hire for one reason and one reason only...ok two reasons

    1.) they're total ups
    2.) to keep the media off their backs...he's a consensus favorite and nice guy because "everyone loves Golden State" ....they figure since everyone is ok with Luke why not hire him to help give us media "cover"....since they have no desire to win....the only reason they pretended to before was because Kobe demanded it from them...now its time to lay back in the cut and save more money...yall can fall for their but I see exactly what they're doing...and from a business perspective it makes sense..no Kobe no windfall profits outside of the Cable deal....its time to preserve and save....

    Luke provides them temporary cover...its not about player development..well only on theory it is...
    Agree with 1 and 2 but with condition. I don't think saving money is on their radar, because they still have to use all that money in the cap and Luke most likely carries a higher price tag..

  3. #128
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    We wont know for sure, but this is a move that shouldn't be judged now. Lakers went with a brilliant offensive coach (D'Antoni) an excellent defensive coordinator (Brown) and an old school coach who stresses discipline (Scott), didn't pan out, did they? And mind you, two of them had a benefit of carrying a loaded roster.


    You want Ollie but on what basis? He could very well be just another NCAA coach that crapped out in the big league. Brad Stevens is one of those exceptional exclusion. Messina? His NBA resume hasn't been very impressive. Thibs? Not with this roster. Everyone will be screaming "fire" after year one.





    Walton is a favorite because he's well regarded in the NBA circle, and what they do behind the scenes is paramount to their reputation. These are things, we us fans have limited access to.



    This should be a 2 year objective PAR. Let's stop pretending we all know he's going to be a success or failure, no one knows

    You're missing the point again bro....Lets look at your examples...

    What you claim are the reasons they hired the previous coaches are the EXACT opposite reasons..none of it is true....they hired D'antoni in the middle of the night because they despised Phil and couldn't force themselves to being him back when All signs pointed to them rehiring Phil...D'antoni was a pure Jim and Mitch ego hire in case you weren't following it... .they hired Mike Brown because he coached Lebron and these losers thought for some reason he would have credibility with Kobe....and Scott was a pure peer pressure hire...Magic Johnson railing on and on in the media calling Jim and idiot on Twitter and Kobe saying Scott was his guy.....where have you been? Those are the real reasons those hires were made.....

    Ollie on the basis of not just winning a le in college in his 2nd year as Head Coach...but the fact that he is a blend of both..he can reach not just mellinials but also veteran players respect him....while at the same time representing a fresh start... That is why you make that hire.. Do you really want to know why they didn't hire Thibbs or Ollie? All you have to do is look just beyond the surface..looks like I was right all along...Mitch and Jim want a yes man....they're not interested in player development its all about control thats why they hired all those previous clown coaches and Luke is just another one....they keep ing up and yet still think they know best....Ollie and Thibbs actually demanded some control over their players and Mitch and Jim refused to give it..thats why they hired clown Luke...I'm done with them until Mitch and Jim steps down...I'm not gonna be hood winked..yall go right ahead...


    as been reported that Ollie is intrigued by the Lakers job, and according to Adam Zagoria of SNY.tv Ollie would want some involvement in player personnel decisions with the Lakers:

    The source told SNY.tv that Ollie — who led UConn to the 2014 NCAA championship — would want at least some involvement in player personnel decisions with the Lakers.
    “He’s gotta be involved in player personnel decisions,” the source said. “Mitch Kupchak has to be willing to involve him in player personnel. He has to have a say-so in that.”

    Ollie has said that it would take something very special to leave UConn so being involved in personnel decisions would make sense as a need on his end. Whether or not the Lakers would be willing to give him what he wants remains to be seen.

    Tom Thibodeau reportedly crossed the Lakers off his list in part because they wouldn’t give him total control. That doesn’t sound like what Ollie is asking for here, however, but a request like that could still make a difference.

  4. #129
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    If Ollie can guarantee he'll bring in his toy boy Durant then sure give him the keys but if not in naw I don't trust GM/Coach, you don't want one guy having too much control, see Doc/Rivers

  5. #130
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    If Ollie can guarantee he'll bring in his toy boy Durant then sure give him the keys but if not in naw I don't trust GM/Coach, you don't want one guy having too much control, see Doc/Rivers

    Bad counter arguement since Doc > Mitch and Jimbo

    You want a more recent example of success look no further than Stan Van Gundy in Detroit...face it..if you're half a decent coach as they say you are then its dereliction of duty not to require some control and especially with such clown ass ownership as the Lakers....

    Props to Ollie and Thibbs for demanding it...Luke not demanding it in today's NBA coaching atmosphere is further proof he doesn't know what he's doing...tbh

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    If Ollie can guarantee he'll bring in his toy boy Durant then sure give him the keys but if not in naw I don't trust GM/Coach, you don't want one guy having too much control, see Doc/Rivers
    Thats because Doc is a dumbass

  7. #132
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    It's a low risk, high reward move. Not like the Lakers need a good coach now to compete for a championship. They are still several years away. And Walton has the name recognition and championship reputation to lure a big FA or two to the Lakers this year before anyone figures out if he's good at coaching or not.

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    coded language

    “We’re excited to bring Luke back to Los Angeles, where we feel he’s going to start an outstanding coaching career,” said Kupchak. “He’s one of the brightest young coaching minds in the game and we feel fortunate that he’ll be leading the on-court future of our team.”
    In other words don't ask or expect to be involved in any player personnel decisions...you're the "on court " future only....

    This is exactly why the organization is doomed... If you're head coach has NO voice at all then all youre doing is using him..parading him out there to deflect and take heat for you....this is totally disgusting...I'm bout as sick and tired of Mitch and Jim as I am of Russell...

    If this type of puppet show doesn't end with Luke it never will.. when the fans finally wake up and demand that Mitch and Jim step down...you can give me credit for being a sage... Its ok I know many of you can't see what I see at this moment ..Mitch and Jim are horrendous..its scary..this goes way beyond Luke tbh

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    Bad counter arguement since Doc > Mitch and Jimbo

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    Wtf?

    Doc inherited Griffin and CP3 lmao. His moves are equally as re ed, like locking up figuratively and literally deandre Jordan in a basement to sign $120 million

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    Wtf?

    Doc inherited Griffin and CP3 lmao. His moves are equally as re ed, like locking up figuratively and literally deandre Jordan in a basement to sign $120 million

    All in all...he's still better than what we have in our front office...coming off the heels of the Sterling debacle I will give him the slight benefit of the doubt....his only issue is not demanding excellnce from DJ....

    Why should I extend the same benefit to Jim and Mitch who hired a ing bartender to lead player scouting and development...

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    Regardless, you don't hire the first person you interview.
    They probably don't want to miss out on a coach they really want in the first place. Walton was pursued by a number of teams, including Houston, New York and Sacramento. Given the cir stances, it's no guarantee he'll commit considering the other options in theory are better.

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    Good signing. Mrs Jefferson seems to be a decent coach.

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    All in all...he's still better than what we have in our front office...coming off the heels of the Sterling debacle I will give him the slight benefit of the doubt....his only issue is not demanding excellnce from DJ....

    Why should I extend the same benefit to Jim and Mitch who hired a ing bartender to lead player scouting and development...
    meh, doc walked in some of the best situations to date. he received tons of credit in boston while thibs was doing the work and in clippa land if he's not busy signing deandre he's going after austin rivers or lance stephenson


    lakers have a lot of catching up to do but they have done really well the past 2 years in draft stealing clarkson and nance jr. randle is going to be a solid 18 and 10 forward with ample room to grow and appears to be the 2nd or 3rd best player in that lottery. jury is out on d-snitch but he made some strides in the second half.

  14. #139
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    meh, doc walked in some of the best situations to date. he received tons of credit in boston while thibs was doing the work and in clippa land if he's not busy signing deandre he's going after austin rivers or lance stephenson


    lakers have a lot of catching up to do but they have done really well the past 2 years in draft stealing clarkson and nance jr. randle is going to be a solid 18 and 10 forward with ample room to grow and appears to be the 2nd or 3rd best player in that lottery. jury is out on d-snitch but he made some strides in the second half.
    Luke will win all of 5-6 games next year

  15. #140
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    Luke will win all of 5-6 games next year
    I hope your yanking peoples chain , you're pretty bad with predictions tbh

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    If this is true we are done as a viable basketball organization.....they see the success of Golden State and for some odd reason thinks this is a good idea....Heres a novel idea Jim and Chazz...how about giving Jerry West is ing credit for putting together a great team in GS instead of knee jerk hiring its second rate assitant thinking he's actually a good coach on the strength of Curry.....

    Luke is as bout a good a coach as he was a player...this nepotism in LA is absolutely sickrning....total dumbasses running the show....
    werent you just saying the other day that you FO is too smart to get Cousins now because he will be a FA in two years

  17. #142
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    werent you just saying the other day that you FO is too smart to get Cousins now because he will be a FA in two years
    One would like to think...but They've made a fool of me before so who knows....

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    I hope your yanking peoples chain , you're pretty bad with predictions tbh

    They have no threat..no one to coalesce around... just a bunch of young hungry guys playing outta control trying to out shoot and shine each other...

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    Has Luke ever gotten mad before?

    seems like he is one of those guys that would pick a spider up with a paper and put him outside.

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    We will find out if Luke has what it takes. The only reason this is important for LA is because they didn't get turned down for once.

    With free agency looming the needed to stop the slide. Striking out on the guy they wanted (whether or not he's good) would have been really, really ugly. LA needed to call their shot and get their man.

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    We will find out if Luke has what it takes. The only reason this is important for LA is because they didn't get turned down for once.

    With free agency looming the needed to stop the slide. Striking out on the guy they wanted (whether or not he's good) would have been really, really ugly. LA needed to call their shot and get their man.
    Unfortunately that's not what happened...they got rejected by Thibs and Ollie said no...all because they wanted to keep ing up the team behind the scene...so they settled for another ex Laker yes man who wasn't in a position to demand ...the guy would have literally taken any head coaching job..he just so happened to be offered the Laker job so they can use him for cover. ...that's the real black and white situation not that they have you believing tbh....

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    Unfortunately that's not what happened...they got rejected by Thibs and Ollie said no...all because they wanted to keep ing up the team behind the scene...so they settled for another ex Laker yes man who wasn't in a position to demand ...the guy would have literally taken any head coaching job..he just so happened to be offered the Laker job so they can use him for cover. ...that's the real black and white situation not that they have you believing tbh....
    Lakers wouldn't even give Phil Jackson personnel control and that was a guy coming off 6 championships, why would they handle it over a guy like Ollie and Thibodeaux?

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    Unfortunately that's not what happened...they got rejected by Thibs and Ollie said no...all because they wanted to keep ing up the team behind the scene...so they settled for another ex Laker yes man who wasn't in a position to demand ...the guy would have literally taken any head coaching job..he just so happened to be offered the Laker job so they can use him for cover. ...that's the real black and white situation not that they have you believing tbh....
    I agree, they didn't really get "their man" in reality. They very purposely let Thibs/Brooks get hired before they let go of Scott to avoid getting publicly embarrassed and shut down again. They could not afford that PR hit with this free agency being so critical.

    So they stacked the deck, waited until they had a sure thing and "got their man". When I said what I did, I was taking that into account. It's a sham overall, but still could work out and it's what LA wanted.

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    Unfortunately that's not what happened....
    Kool I am not asking you to reveal which member of the RimJob Contest Krew you are, but the obvious recent switch to taking over this profile is much better.

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    Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan 2m2 minutes ago

    Walton will not run the triangle offense as the Lakers' coach. It's not the "most appropriate" offense for personnel they have, he said.


    whew

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