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How big are steroids in Soccer? And do they use em to build stamina instead of explosiveness? I ask because most MLB/NFL players don't have a natural physique. 99% of NFL players look like they're on something, 70% of MLB(like 90% in the steroid era), and 70% of NBA. I'm not buying that bull of better training methods, "Eastern Block training", or nutrition. I would like to see all these agility tests without no PED's or anabolic steroids. Then we would know whose the most "Athletic".
In my opinion: Soccer players would be the fastest, Football players the strongest, Basketball players would be in between soccer and Football, Baseball players coming in last. We would never know because 95% of pro athletes nowadays are on some type of anabolic imho. And these guys are multi-millionaires and know how to "beat" drug tests. If some westside thug could beat a probation drug test using certo, pickle juice and palo azul, what do you think these rich dudes are capable of? I've heard of athletes using marijuana to lower down their testosterone levels so they won't get caught using PED's. It's better for your reputation to get caught dirty masking it with weed than to get busted for roids imo.
Messi takes a load of steroids tbh
I got so ted on that I proved baseball players are all around better athletically than midget soccer players.
Final nail in the coffin.
Ronald runs a 25m dash in 3.31 seconds, equating to 24.77 feet per second.
Fat Prince Fielder ran the 60 yard dash in 7.17 seconds, equating to 25.1 feet per second.
The most athletic soccer player in the world is slower than the fat baseball player povertyball fans always post to prove baseball players are "unathletic."
ted on, indeed.
Compare the times of the 100m dash to 100-200m in the 200m dash.
omgodz you changed the quotz
Compare the times of the 100m dash to 100-200m in the 200m dash.
Ronaldo is a natural freak specimen, same goes for Gareth Bale
If anybody is shooting up its that tranny Sammy Sosa.
Beisbol players needing steroids to slide on dirt and catch balls with a giant glove
But baseball players are the better athlets
Ronaldo is a natural freak specimen, same goes for Gareth Bale
If anybody is shooting up its that tranny Sammy Sosa.
Beisbol players needing steroids to slide on dirt and catch balls with a giant glove
I've said this before, but the only footballers that relate to stickball players are goalkeepers
• Both stand around for hours
• Scratch their butts for 95% of the time
• Use giant gloves to catch balls
• Slide on Dirt/Grass
• Don't have to work on their physique
That's pretty nice bro, but can he do this
Yankees, stealing ideas from the NazisStealing ideas from the Spanish.
Dumbass, teams aren't going to sign a designated punt returner. They want them to be part-time receivers, defensive backs or running backs in Sproles case.
Only in Beisbol where you have "designated" base runners b/c the DH is morbidly obese.Fat also=/=unathletic, again.
You're too basic & dumb to understand that Usain Bolt would lose a 25m dash to a run of the mill sprinter.
Michael Johnson has the second fastest 100m split (8.76) EVER over any distance & it came during the race when he set the 200m record. Johnson NEVER ran under 10 second for the 100m dash.
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I know about acceleration, dip . I just thought it funny that FATASS Prince Fielder is similarly fast to a povertyball player who looks like this:You're too basic & dumb to understand that Usain Bolt would lose a 25m dash to a run of the mill sprinter.
Michael Johnson has the second fastest 100m split (8.76) EVER over any distance & it came during the race when he set the 200m record. Johnson NEVER ran under 10 second for the 100m dash.
Here's a breakdown that calculates Ronaldo's acceleration to come up with an estimate of his 40 yard dash time:
https://xcountrytrackathlete.wordpre...-40-yard-dash/
Conclusion:Using the lower time, that puts Ronaldo at 25.8 FPS.It’s a safe estimate to say Cristiano could run the 40 yard dash between 4.64-4.70 seconds
I just found out that Prince lowered his 60 yard dash time to 6.8 seconds at one point in his high school senior season. FPS: 26.4
Now Ronaldo might accelerate further over the next 20 yards to best Fielder's time, but he won't blow him away. And once more, Prince Fielder looked like this in highschool:
Those base runners still have to an overall skillset because they often sub in for position players.Dumbass, teams aren't going to sign a designated punt returner. They want them to be part-time receivers, defensive backs or running backs in Sproles case.
Only in Beisbol where you have "designated" base runners b/c the DH is morbidly obese.
You're still spinning about this 5'4" thing, I see. Did you play sports? It's exceedingly rare a person that short is going to excel at ANY ball sport, soccer even included. But soccer has the distinction of being the only sport where a GOAT can be that small because the game doesn't demand as much all around athleticism as other ball sports because upper body use isn't really vitally important.
Tennis is a non-contact sport where a lower center of gravity can be a big plus (the moves a tennis player makes laterally to return a ball are not unlike a running back "cutting laterally.") So where's all the GOAT midget tennis players?
Your predictable reply: "Dumbass, short people don't excel in tennis because they need long arms, as well."
And that's exactly my point on soccer being less demanding because all you need are a good pair of legs, "skills" and some stamina. It's the same logic as you saying, "Fat baseball players can become great because it's not a game that demands too much stamina."
Sorry, you just can't spin yourself out of the fact that only men's ball sport on Earth where a 5'4" player can become the greatest of all-time is povertyball
Obviously there's nothing like a bicycle kick in baseball, but can a baseball player do a backflip?
Been there, done that.
Can Zaltan do this, though:
Back in the days, Maradona had speciallised upper strength conditioning to fight off defenders more easilly.
You're constantly using you upper part of the body in football. In fact, there's more contact between players on the upper part than on the legs.
And you are acting like short GOAT players are the norm. Out of the GOAT list only Maradona and Messi are on the short side. Players like Pele, Cruyff, Zidane, Ronaldo, etc. Are all of above average height. 'cause like in anyother sport, size matters. It matters for headers, strength, etc.
Messi and Maradona are just abnormally skilled, they're kinda like Curry (times 100). That's why they are GOAT level.
Behold baseball's great skills
Upper body use=/=strength.
Back in the days, Maradona had speciallised upper strength conditioning to fight off defenders more easilly.
You're constantly using you upper part of the body in football. In fact, there's more contact between players on the upper part than on the legs.
And you are acting like short GOAT players are the norm. Out of the GOAT list only Maradona and Messi are on the short side. Players like Pele, Cruyff, Zidane, Ronaldo, etc. Are all of above average height. 'cause like in anyother sport, size matters. It matters for headers, strength, etc.
Messi and Maradona are just abnormally skilled, they're kinda like Curry (times 100). That's why they are GOAT level.
They don't throw in soccer (aside from throw ins), arm tackle, carry a ball, dribble a ball with their hands, swing, shoot, serve, etc, etc.
Yes, I know it's important to have upper body strength in any sport, but it would take a silly stretch of logic to suggest that upper body strength is anywhere near as important in soccer as in sports that demand use of the upper body.
And as for the bolded
We're finally getting somewhere, and congrats to you for figuring out the point I was making. Bartolo Colon and the few fat players you all like to post are "abnormally skilled" relative to their sport as midget GOAT soccer players. Fat baseball players are nowhere near the norm, and haven't been throughout history aside from Ruth.
Since when is a sports entertainment value determined by the athleticism of the players? If that were the case wouldn't decathlon etc be top spectator sports? No, people are more entertained by skill and teamwork.
And if the main reason for soccer's success is that it's a poor persons sport, then why do most of the highest gdp per capita countries on earth claim it as their favorite? If baseball etc are such superior sports, why aren't they played in such countries, and why are poor countries like Cuba, Venezuela, etc successful enough to defeat the US despite having less than a tenth the population? On that note, if you look at Nobel prizes per capita the US falls to pedestrian 16th.
Oh, and isn't mid the one who always argues that modern athletes are marginally better than previous generations, and skill more important than athletic ability? The reason Maradona is considered GOAT is precisely that he didn't need any physical advantages, just skill and heart a la Tim Duncan or Allen Iverson (if he actually beat the 01 Lakers, he would be the perfect parallel to Maradona, little guy one man team taking down the rich Goliath).
There are 6'5'+ stiffs in tennis who dominate b/c of they have a "big serve". Besides, you don't necessarily have to move much in tennis if you have the skills to hit a winner rather than trying to force your opponent to commit an error. That's the difference b/w Federer & Nadal.
Hakeem Olajuwon couldn't make it in soccer despite being a FREAK athlete.And that's exactly my point on soccer being less demanding because all you need are a good pair of legs, "skills" and some stamina. It's the same logic as you saying, "Fat baseball players can become great because it's not a game that demands too much stamina."
Sorry, you just can't spin yourself out of the fact that only men's ball sport on Earth where a 5'4" player can become the greatest of all-time is povertyball
Never. The reason I'm focusing on athleticism in this debate is because soccer fans are the one who usually claim baseball doesn't require any athleticism and/or the average baseball player isn't "athletic." It's simply false.
Furthermore, baseball is primarily a skill driven sport, but it's useless to discuss how demanding baseball is in this regard with your average foreigner soccer fan since they've never played the sport. I agree that baseball skills aren't flashy and highlight friendly like a bicycle kick or a nutmeg, but hitting a 98 mph fastball that is constantly in movement is one of the hardest things to do in sports, period.
And if the main reason for soccer's success is that it's a poor persons sport, then why do most of the highest gdp per capita countries on earth claim it as their favorite?
British Imperialism.
On that note, if you look at Nobel prizes per capita the US falls to pedestrian 16th
God I hate per capita arguments. Know why? Because of the law of diminishing returns and the fact that per capita will always punish the larger sample. For example, New Zealand only has to win a couple of Nobel Prizes to have a better per capita than the UK. Assuming that rate would continue if their population grew is illogical. You can't expect smooth linear growth.
Compare the US vs. a developed country/continent, like the EU for example, and the US beats the EU "per capita." However, I still don't like using it. Furthermore, the US didn't always have 320 million people, and we won a lot of Nobels in the 50's and 60's when our population was 150-170 million.
For example example, we won 8 Nobels in 1972. Our population then was 200 million. Our population continued to grow, but we never won more than 8 Nobels per year until 2013 in which we won 9. You see that our population grew by over 50% but we didn't automatically win 50% more Nobel prizes.
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