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    Compare and contrast with Fox News which has 6 times as many GOP viewers to dem.

    It's very similar to your 'neutral' USA Today.
    People of the left or right often think they are closer to center than they really are. Such pols are skewed by personal bias. This seems obvious to me when MSNBC, clearly leftist, is close to balanced on how people claim their conservative vs. liberal views.

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    People of the left or right often think they are closer to center than they really are. Such pols are skewed by personal bias. This seems obvious to me when MSNBC, clearly leftist, is close to balanced on how people claim their conservative vs. liberal views.
    A 58:16 Dem to GOP ratio isn't even, dumbass.

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    A 58:16 Dem to GOP ratio isn't even, dumbass.
    He probably means that of those 58% Dem only 36% identify as liberal. 22% of the Dem consider themselves moderate.

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    People of the left or right often think they are closer to center than they really are. Such pols are skewed by personal bias. This seems obvious to me when MSNBC, clearly leftist, is close to balanced on how people claim their conservative vs. liberal views.
    Both parties, "study has shown", almost totally ignore voter preferences while implementing donor preference, so it doesn't ing matter if voters consider themselves left, right or center. It doesn't ing matter

    the test is:

    "What GOOD have the Repugs done for ALL of America in the past 40 years"

    "What BAD have the Repugs done for ALL of America in the past 40 years"

    short answer: THE REPUGS.

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    A 58:16 Dem to GOP ratio isn't even, dumbass.
    pretty clear he was referring to the right column, considering he said conservative/liberal not republican/democrat.... which has it at 32/26

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    Trash (in fact ALL Repugs already) had a problem with women voters. Pence could make it even worse.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-had-a-problem-with-women-voters-pence-could-make-it-even-worse/2016/07/15/6ee5dcc8-4a01-11e6-acbc-4d4870a079da_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

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    A 58:16 Dem to GOP ratio isn't even, dumbass.
    posts chart, can't read chart who's the dumbass

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    Compare and contrast with Fox News which has 6 times as many GOP viewers to dem.

    It's very similar to your 'neutral' USA Today.

    Left LEANING was my description ya fella. And it's pretty much money now. Bingo.
    Same with the NY Times. You basically have made my argument.

    So now you attempt to use my left leaning description and juxtapose that with Fox?
    You are so incredibly disingenuous. So left leaning means Marxist revolutionary.

    Cmon fuzz. Get off it.
    Dont pull this crap and let's just go dancing.

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    Bud Light and AT&T

    They are alcoholic phonehounds now.
    You are are such a contortionist.
    Seriously, you are using this is an argument for political adds asking for donations? Really?

    Hey, I saw a food commercial on FOX... wtf...
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    You are are such a contortionist.
    Seriously, you are using this is an argument for political adds asking for donations? Really?

    Hey, I saw a food commercial on FOX... wtf...
    If the ads supporting contributions means the site supports the one asking for donations then why does it not also follow that ads asking for donations to beer and phone companies mean they are beer and phone leaning just the same?

    Nevermind that the site uses ad choice which shows ads based on what your personal browsing history is.

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    Left LEANING was my description ya fella. And it's pretty much money now. Bingo.
    Same with the NY Times. You basically have made my argument.

    So now you attempt to use my left leaning description and juxtapose that with Fox?
    You are so incredibly disingenuous. So left leaning means Marxist revolutionary.

    Cmon fuzz. Get off it.
    Dont pull this crap and let's just go dancing.
    And yet the demographics of the audience are just the same as your 'neutral' USA Today. Your logic lacks consistency.

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    If the ads supporting contributions means the site supports the one asking for donations then why does it not also follow that ads asking for donations to beer and phone companies mean they are beer and phone leaning just the same?

    Nevermind that the site uses ad choice which shows ads based on what your personal browsing history is.
    All sites use some of these.
    But not all the ads are picked by a firm.

    We are not discussing food and beverages fuzz, we are talking politics, are you joking?

    And if your assertion means they have pegged me, it means I'm a radical liberal calling a your middle road news site liberal leaning (which by the way is hardly something for you to laugh at like its something extreme and we have a huge difference of opinion.)

    And this hardly fits your implied narrative concerning my opinion eh? Like I'm some reactionary conservative calling a site left leaning

    Christ almighty fuzz, just love me already.
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    All sites use some of these.
    But not all the ads are picked by a firm.

    We are not discussing food and beverages fuzz, we are talking politics, are you joking?

    And if your assertion means they have pegged me, it means I'm a radical liberal calling a your middle road news site liberal leaning (which by the way is hardly something for you to laugh at like its something extreme and we have a huge difference of opinion.)

    And this hardly fits your implied narrative concerning my opinion eh? Like I'm some reactionary conservative calling a site left leaning

    Christ almighty fuzz, just love me already.
    Still no proof on actual content.
    Still no proof that they bias who they take their advertising dollars from.
    Still no proof that anyone other than yourself and breitbart thinks this.
    Still no response to what ad choice does with their advertisement.
    Still no response to their sharing the same audience as your 'unbiased' site.

    Instead we get these strawmen about me making claims to your leanings. It's irrelevant beyond that ad choice tailors what you see based on your browsing history which is an independent truth.

    And your Constantinian God.

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    Still no proof on actual content.
    Still no proof that they bias who they take their advertising dollars from.
    Still no proof that anyone other than yourself and breitbart thinks this.
    Still no response to what ad choice does with their advertisement.
    Still no response to their sharing the same audience as your 'unbiased' site.

    Instead we get these strawmen about me making claims to your leanings. It's irrelevant beyond that ad choice tailors what you see based on your browsing history which is an independent truth.

    And your Constantinian God.
    So the ads you see on the site are food and beverages. This brought your attention to my notion of CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION ADDS for Sanders, Hillary and other democrats, and none for Republicans and saying the site was left leaning.

    So what political ads come up when you visit the site fuzz? None? Tell me about the political ads YOU see if you think I am just making up. Which you obviously do as you concentrated on food,phones, and beverages.

    And then kiss me you fool...

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    So the ads you see on the site are food and beverages. This brought your attention to my notion of CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION ADDS for Sanders, Hillary and other democrats, and none for Republicans and saying the site was left leaning.

    So what political ads come up when you visit the site fuzz? None? Tell me about the political ads YOU see if you think I am just making up. Which you obviously do as you concentrated on food,phones, and beverages.

    And then kiss me you fool...
    Still no proof on actual content.
    Still no proof that they bias who they take their advertising dollars from.
    Still no proof that anyone other than yourself and breitbart thinks this.
    Still no response to what ad choice does with their advertisement.
    Still no response to their sharing the same audience as your 'unbiased' site.

    Instead we get these strawmen about me making claims to your leanings. It's irrelevant beyond that ad choice tailors what you see based on your browsing history which is an independent truth.

    And your Constantinian God.
    I don't get political ads. Bolded for relevance.

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    I don't get political ads. Bolded for relevance.
    Well I know you don't.
    You did not have to tell me that.

    So here is how it goes down.

    I read politico, I say to myself after reading it, especially this year, "a bit left leaning I would say." ( little did I know that I needed to do an in depth objective statistical analysis, possibly because one CANNOT be done) Then I see ads for The Burn, Hillary, and some other minor deomocratic ads, some even asking for contributions and some even attacking Republicans. Don't see any Ads asking for or backing ANY Republican or Republican issue (gun rights etc...) Lots o democrat stuff, no Republican stuff. I say to myself, not odd given what I have read and hey, this is pretty good stuff for politics per usual.

    Then I post a little excerpt from an aricle saying Ruthie is not the first justice to get out of line in making known her distaste for a presidential candidate in rebuttal to the uproar. It says Sandra Day Oconnor pulled some possibly out of line stuff, but not before a major audience. I add the site is a bit left leaning imo. I did not hound politico for diversion or even making the possibly unfair comparison, I just thought it was damn interesting action by Oconnor that I never knew.

    Little did I know the fuzz would be on me, dancing with me on ST like so many other minor dancing quibbles in which the argumentative posters are asked to get a room.

    So there you have it.
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    Still no proof on actual content.
    Still no proof that they bias who they take their advertising dollars from.
    Still no proof that anyone other than yourself and breitbart thinks this.
    Still no response to what ad choice does with their advertisement.
    Still no response to their sharing the same audience as your 'unbiased' site.

    Instead we get these strawmen about me making claims to your leanings. It's irrelevant beyond that ad choice tailors what you see based on your browsing history which is an independent truth.

    And your Constantinian God.
    From Politico,which of course is liberal, but if true she should have recused herself.
    Youre full of .

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    I dont think it leans left at all...seems pretty straight down the middle to me.
    Yes. True. I did not use the "lean" first.

    Blue used the term first. And I continued with it.

    But it's not like I had raged about it being so slanted it could not be believed. In fact I said I liked it. You immediately juxtaposed it with FOX to twist it which I rejected way back.

    So don't play mr. goodbar and reject your obvious attempts to contort.
    Does this mean you will not take my hand at the dance fuzz? Just because I am familiar with you?

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