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    Who would we be making cap space for? Adams?

    I have refrained from posting proposed trades because I hate to engage in completely futile exercises, but here goes. I would rather trade LMA, Patty and JSimms to Chicago for Butler and Portis, followed by a 3 team trade: SA sends Danny to the Bucks and TP to the Kings. The Kings send Gay to Milwaukee, and Milwaukee sends Monroe, MCW and Brogdon to the Spurs.

    The Spurs:

    PG: MCW, Manu, Dijon, (Brogdon)
    SG: Butler, (Manu), Brogdon, Forbes
    SF: Kawhi, Bertans (Kyle, Butler)
    PF: Pau, Kyle, Portis, LJC
    C: Dedmon, Monroe, (Pau + Ndoye or Nnoko or ?)

    Surely you wouldn't want to keep the same coaching staff? I think Kobe might be up for a head coach position.

    Wouldn't this whole plan be a lot easier if we just switched teams with, say, Charlotte?

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    Reminds me of several years ago, when there was a rumored Suns/Spurs trade** involving Amare for Blair and George Hill. At the time, the Spurs were in love with Hill and Blair, as was Spurstalk.

    In hindsight, if not for Amare's health issues, that would have been a no-brainer of a trade. Anytime you can acquire a player with star potential (who can fit within the team's culture), you have to go for it, no matter how much you love your role players.

    Point being, if this Monroe guy has star potential (despite the "he plays no defense" detractors), you let go of role players to get him.

    **Disclaimer: If my recollection of that trade is inaccurate, then my bad.
    The hot take is not Kyle but the fact that he makes 1 mill and you need to send Tony there to make it work in reality and are left with no starting PG... unless you with my start Dejounte idea.

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    Surely you wouldn't want to keep the same coaching staff? I think Kobe might be up for a head coach position.

    Wouldn't this whole plan be a lot easier if we just switched teams with, say, Charlotte?
    Not Kobe, but another head coach is fine with me at this point.

    I like the idea of having a core of Kawhi, Butler, Dijon, Portis, Kyle and possibly Bertans and Brogdon going forward. The first four are on especially advantageous contracts. Maybe Monroe pans out and becomes a core member. I know; I know: LMA and TP won't get traded.

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    Not Kobe, but another head coach is fine with me at this point.

    I like the idea of having a core of Kawhi, Butler, Dijon, Portis, Kyle and possibly Bertans and Brogdon going forward. The first four are on especially advantageous contracts. Maybe Monroe pans out and becomes a core member. I know; I know: LMA and TP won't get traded.

    I like your idea... it's a much younger team with two star wings, two different bigs with different skills and skilled guards with a lot of 3 pts shooting... but the legacy contract Pop gave Manu should all but tell us he's going to go down with the ship and his decrepit vets at this point. I was rather depressed last night about the prospects for the season considering what Pop's version of a youth movement is. Maybe he will surprise me, hopefully but I am expecting same old from him + maybe some nights he won't have it bc he will be grieving Timmy all season... our record on the road is not going to be that good this season. It was on the road that Tim did the most bonding.

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    Dude, you willing to sell some of that?
    Exactly, some of these trades get so outlandish you wonder if people are high or serious? LMA, Parker and Green are not getting traded all in one year

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    I like your idea... it's a much younger team with two star wings, two different bigs with different skills and skilled guards with a lot of 3 pts shooting... but the legacy contract Pop gave Manu should all but tell us he's going to go down with the ship and his decrepit vets at this point. I was rather depressed last night about the prospects for the season considering what Pop's version of a youth movement is. Maybe he will surprise me, hopefully but I am expecting same old from him + maybe some nights he won't have it bc he will be grieving Timmy all season... our record on the road is not going to be that good this season. It was on the road that Tim did the most bonding.
    I share your skepticism about this season, although I hadn't really broken down our prospects on a home/away basis. I think you make a good point about Tim on the road. Personally, I will miss most the incredible substance as well as symbolism of Tim's being the last Spur off the floor at the end of games, waiting on all the other guys from Kawhi to lowliest scrub (I didn't say Ayres) to walk off before him so that he could give them a hand on the head or a backslap... I'm getting kind of misty writing about that image! (This is my first post about Timmy's departure...)

    I think this season will be a success if the Spurs keep the 50-win streak alive. But, it is a little gratifying to see that you grasp what my moves were attempting to accomplish. MCW would be a one-season place holder as nominal starter. I would expect a virtual PG by committee approach under my scheme.

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    I share your skepticism about this season, although I hadn't really broken down our prospects on a home/away basis. I think you make a good point about Tim on the road. Personally, I will miss most the incredible substance as well as symbolism of Tim's being the last Spur off the floor at the end of games, waiting on all the other guys from Kawhi to lowliest scrub (I didn't say Ayres) to walk off before him so that he could give them a hand on the head or a backslap... I'm getting kind of misty writing about that image! (This is my first post about Timmy's departure...)

    I think this season will be a success if the Spurs keep the 50-win streak alive. But, it is a little gratifying to see that you grasp what my moves were attempting to accomplish. MCW would be a one-season place holder as nominal starter. I would expect a virtual PG by committee approach under my scheme.
    Yup I got the MCW part. I know you are no fan of his but something like that would challenge Dejounte to not feel en led to the spot and earn it through becoming better than MCW to start.

    Sorry I brought the "waterworks" with Tim. I liked how he tapped young players in the head coming in during a timeout. Danny and Kyle's posts in instagram were so revealing as to how he encouraged and lifted young players up after a bad game. It's easy to notice Mills waving towels and the claw sign celebrating Kawhi or the belly rub when Marco was here when the team was winning. It's easy to cheer when guys are winning. Teams are tested in adversity though. That's where you see real leadership and character and those were Tim moments.

    No one can be Timmy for this group right now. They have to find it within themselves. They will miss him.... damn I went down my own sentimental road.

    I don't think Manu or Tony are the same kind of leader and it's better if someone younger starts to step up bc Manu is retiring soon anyways so it will be another loss yet again in leadership next season.

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    I hope Anderson is involved, not that anyone would want him
    tbh

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    idk - someone wanted gary neal.

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    idk - someone wanted gary neal.
    nobody wants him and he already opened his big mouth... what a dummy.

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    RC did want to keep Cojo who some here were considering a fringe player in his second NBA season,, but you went by the side. The main point is that CoJo is in a much better team and situation for himself. He became a regular rotation player and a legit 6th/7th man, which fans here never thought he had in him.

    He had been 10-12 th in the Spurs depth chart but in another good team he's getting more playing time has and be helped improve that team significantly. I believe in a team that sought to play Kyle to his strengths and not off the ball and off Manu he would be better and improve that team significantly more. It's no secret that the Spurs system didn't do CoJo any favors bc he was asked to play off the ball when he was a real PG, more of a real PG than Mills is, and Kyle is similar in some respects, and becoming already a better shooter than CoJo.
    Saying that RC wanted to keep Cojo and that the spurs regret letting Cojo to is 2 very different things.

    There are lots of players that the Spurs would have liked to keep. I'm sure they would have loved to keep George Hill... does that mean they regret trading him? I can assure you that answer is no.

    Cojo is a good player. Cojo was a good player in SA (towards the end of his run). He would have made a fine back up PG here. The Spurs knew that. They also knew they didn't have the money to pay him back up PG money while still being able to bring him LMA.

    Your love for KA is one of the most annoying things on this forum at this point and every post being about him and how he's going to be this or that is just blah. So seeing you post things like the Spurs will regret trading KA one day like they regret letting Cojo go is just wrong and misinformation.

    But whatever.

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    Saying that RC wanted to keep Cojo and that the spurs regret letting Cojo to is 2 very different things.

    There are lots of players that the Spurs would have liked to keep. I'm sure they would have loved to keep George Hill... does that mean they regret trading him? I can assure you that answer is no.

    Cojo is a good player. Cojo was a good player in SA (towards the end of his run). He would have made a fine back up PG here. The Spurs knew that. They also knew they didn't have the money to pay him back up PG money while still being able to bring him LMA.

    Your love for KA is one of the most annoying things on this forum at this point and every post being about him and how he's going to be this or that is just blah. So seeing you post things like the Spurs will regret trading KA one day like they regret letting Cojo go is just wrong and misinformation.

    But whatever.
    It will be my pleasure to keep annoying the out of you.

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    Why does this team contonue to ignore the team's glaring need of another perimter? Even if we're to assume kawhi is primed to take a major leap with his ball handling responsibility, that doesnt addres that issue completely.
    Because the perimeter is more of a quality than quan y issue and there's probably nothing they could have realistically done to make it markedly better.

    In terms of quan y, power forward is clearly the biggest hole on the roster.

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    Because the perimeter is more of a quality than quan y issue and there's probably nothing they could have realistically done to make it markedly better.

    In terms of quan y, power forward is clearly the biggest hole on the roster.
    Interesting, because I would say point guard.

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    Has Thomas Robinson been signed yet by other teams????

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    Has Thomas Robinson been signed yet by other teams????
    Nope.

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    Interesting, because I would say point guard.
    They at least have three point guards, two of which are proven rotation players and the third of which is, if nothing else right now, an NBA talent.

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    They at least have three point guards, two of which are proven rotation players and the third of which is, if nothing else right now, an NBA talent.
    The Spurs' shortest players are serviceable against most teams. But when they are playing the Warriors, they are as useful as teats on a bull.

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    Hes the opposite of what we need. We need a stout rebounder and athletic shotblocker, who cover the PnR when necessary, and excels at SCREENING, and the Dive/roll on the PnR
    Cosign!!

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