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Put your hands up timothy
My list was a joke, I was just taking a shot at Larry Bird and his cult
I stay away from rankng players, overall, tbh..too many factors to consider, too many different eras, etc..
If I had to rank them, I would have to split it in several different categories..
If I take the impact of pre-80s players seriously(which I don't), I would divide it by peak and overall career..
Career:
1. Dad Killer
2. Lebron
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Magic
5. Jabbar
6. Duncan
7. Bird
8. Hakeem
9. Shaq
10. Kobe
Peak:
1. Lebron
2. Dad Killer
3. Shaq
4. Wilt
5. Kareem
Regular Season Peak:
1. Kareem
2. Wilt
3. Lebron
4. Dad Killer
5. Curry
6. David Robinson
7. Shaq
8. KG
"stays away from ranking players"
has 3 rankings in the same post
Put your hands up timothy
YouTube videos? What's next? A photo?
Kobe couldn't even win one game vs dirk. DirkownsKobe
Both, sure. However ESPN and SI put Tim ahead of Shaq.
Curry has a ring because he was the beneficiary of unprecedented opponent injury luck (given the Cavs' state, he didn't have to face a single contender). If Paul had that, he'd be a champion too. Getting to a certain round is sometimes more so about luck than your actual ceiling.
It's not just advanced stats that Duncan has Olajuwon beat by, but accomplishments too. If you're going to use antiquated/casual fan arguments, then you can't leave out rings, Finals/regular season MVP, All-NBA/defense teams and All-Star games.
Only pussies & assholes blame injury.
Chang is resorting to career averages type numbers.
Nobody cares.
The fact is we saw Shaq reach a pinnacle unmatched by anyone not named Hakeem.
If you want to compare Duncan to KG, be my guess. But as the numbers showed, Shaq's peak was was greater. Not in one or two categories. ALL OF THEM.
Thats the Shaq we remember. The uber-dominant guy who couldnt be stopped no matter how many guys you threw at him.
Tim Duncan.....
Who?
Spurs fans get upset when everyone calls Tim Duncan boring but I challenge you to find a Tim Duncan highlight. The only one I can think of his hitting a three pointer against my Suns. A 6'11" guy who never shoots three pointers hit a three pointer.
Yay.
Now think of Shaq's highlights.
The diving for the loose ball and sliding into the camera man his rookie year.
Tearing down the entire hoop.
The Kobe lob.
The Dunk and shove on Chris Dudley.
No. Curry has a ring AND got back to another finals (without injuries). Stop giving that lame ass excuse, teams have injuries every season. And so now you've moved on from advanced stats because I showed you Chris Paul has gaudy advanced stats...to using all star games as a criteria when Yao got voted in without even having to play a single game while he was injured
Rings - Duncan has had 2 probable Hall of Famers (Manu being the real MVP of that 2005 playoff run) to play with in his prime, and a hall of fame coach, as opposed to Hakeem, who was surrounded with crackheads who got banned from the league early in his career, and a brittle Sampson.
MVPs - Nash has two MVPs like Duncan. Must mean he's just as good as Duncan right?
It's funny how you left of DPOY awards, where Hakeem has 2 and Duncan has none. Picking and choosing awards I see...
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That Ole Paul Revere was jamming!
Can you imagine swapping Dream out with Jim? Better teams, better coach, better system too? 6-8 rangs for Dream tbhNo. Curry has a ring AND got back to another finals (without injuries). Stop giving that lame ass excuse, teams have injuries every season. And so now you've moved on from advanced stats because I showed you Chris Paul has gaudy advanced stats...to using all star games as a criteria when Yao got voted in without even having to play a single game while he was injured
Rings - Duncan has had 2 probable Hall of Famers (Manu being the real MVP of that 2005 playoff run) to play with in his prime, and a hall of fame coach, as opposed to Hakeem, who was surrounded with crackheads who got banned from the league early in his career, and a brittle Sampson.
Would have been interesting....They want to use advanced stats and awards(while leaving out certain awards), but raw numbers tell the story...
95' run w/o homecourt
1st round: 35ppg for Dream (vs. Karl Malone)
WC semis: 30ppg (vs. Barkley)
WCF: 35.3ppg (vs. DRob)
Finals: 32.8ppg (vs. Shaq)
Hakeem had five 40+ point games those playoffs, and got awfully close to a couple 40-20 games. Even had a 10-assist game.
Only pussies and assholes steal their schtick from Reddit.
They were selling your .
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Fact.Deal with it. Tim>Shaq and Kobe Fact. Deal with it
Only gots and pussies blame homers for the media putting it like it is.
You were stealing your .
They were selling your .
He went Beast Mode det year. I always dreamt of the Logo "trading" for Dream. Never happened though
A) people say the Spurs are boring. Duncan is only part of Spurs
B) Duncan's dunk on Wallace, alleyoop while falling down, left handed rebound then two handed dunk in one motion vs Garnett and the lakers.
C) don't care people say Duncan is boring
D) Vince carter and Nique are no where near to too nba players of all time.
A player who scores 30 point in a game with 200 possessions must be letter than the player who scores 25 points in a game with 150 possessions according to you.
Sorry Duncan didn't have a peak like that. Advanced stats are not the end all be all.
Says the guy with James Harden as his best player.
This?
Think you just proved my point.
Even with advanced stats, Shaq peaked at a higher level than Duncan in every category.
Thus, Shaq was better. Its really not that hard.
Like what?
You actually pointed me to the way that showed Duncan had a higher peak than Hakeem.
Thanks.
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