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    here is colin going IN on trump and hillary.


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    Zak de la Rocha been liftin'

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    As a veteran, I think the guy can stand or sit as his conscience dictates.

    The PC police trying to tell him to stand up can eff themselves.

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    I think the guy can stand or sit as his conscience dictates.
    Oh Kaep will be doing plenty of sitting with the current trajectory of his career

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    The USA Today NinersWire transcript of the follow-up discussion shows that Kaepernick added, "You have Hillary who has called black teens or black kids super predators."

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    American hero. Leave it to triggered right wing cucks to get sensitive over this. You gots need to stop being so PC

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    He can sit if he damn well pleases. And people can curse his name if they damn well please too.

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    As a veteran, I think ...
    you're a veteran?

    Vets aren't a special class of people, with privileges, rights beyond any other citizen

    A huge number of vets have their emotional motivations in the right place, but are horribly misinformed about why the politicians sent them into war.

    Has all to with defending America or the Cons ution, or spreading peace and democracy.

    Rightwingnuts, Christian Taliban only want self-defined "freedom" for themselves, and are very energetic, relentless in blocking other peoples' rights.

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    https://www.yahoo.com/tv/nfl-executi...150020910.html

    NFL Executive on ‘Traitor’ Colin Kaepernick: ‘I Don’t Want Him Anywhere Near My Team’


    maybe he could move to Canada and play football there

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    NFL executive said he hasn’t seen level of front office dislike for Colin Kaepernick since Rae Carruth

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/8/3...or-rae-carruth

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    He can sit if he damn well pleases. And people can curse his name if they damn well please too.
    This is basically what it all comes down to, as it should. Been amusing watching both sides regardless.

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    you're a veteran?

    Vets aren't a special class of people, with privileges, rights beyond any other citizen

    A huge number of vets have their emotional motivations in the right place, but are horribly misinformed about why the politicians sent them into war.

    Has all to with defending America or the Cons ution, or spreading peace and democracy.

    Rightwingnuts, Christian Taliban only want self-defined "freedom" for themselves, and are very energetic, relentless in blocking other peoples' rights.


    100% ThAAts in A right !

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    Tomorrows game at San Diego should be entertaining considering its military appreciation night. I may go just to hear the boos.

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    If he played for me he has already been told.

    Avante....you will stand for our National Anthem, if ya don't you are gone and I've called around, you will not be playing in the NFL, do we have an understanding?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I'd love to see some big lineman..."my dad died defending this country ya skinny little , you will stand or I will kick your ass, ok".
    If Colin could actually play the position he could recite Mao's Little Red book and fans around the league would start buying it. You just don't get it.

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    We don't want millionaire athletes speaking publicly about politics.

    That's for billionaire businessmen hiding behind super PACs.
    To be fair, think if you take the last incidents of political controversies started by white guy athletes or former athlete (I'm referring to Schilling who was fired by ESPN & Tim Tebow who has constantly gotten put down by social "justice" warriors), the media actually tend to be more protective of a guy like Kaepernick, even though the whole premise of his actions & beliefs is pretty moronic, & given his celebrity status pretty consequential. The media protects him because he buys their excrement. And kids who don't know any better view him an authority on this . Right now, there are undoubtedly inner city kids & adolescents watching this who don't know any better & are buying what he's selling w/o giving it any serious thought. They'll go through their days blaming the system "oppression" for their failures.

    And the system isn't perfect. It's never going to be perfect.

    So what about encouraging people to jump over the hurdles that life throws at them? Taking personal accountability? Not relying on the govt. to rescue you, when you're perfectly capable of overcoming those challenges on your own? Isn't that what life is about for most everyone?

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    So what about encouraging people to jump over the hurdles that life throws at them?
    how do blacks "jump over the hurdles" of being harassed, brutalized, slaughtered by the cops? of systemic racism? of nderfunded schools? of no "equal opportunity" in the face of white privilege? of the "social injustice war" the blacks are losing?

    So the problem is on the blacks?

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    Right now, there are undoubtedly inner city kids & adolescents watching this who don't know any better & are buying what he's selling w/o giving it any serious thought. They'll go through their days blaming the system "oppression" for their failures.
    I'm not sure that's an unassailable point. If Kaepernick's basic grievance is that cops kill black dudes and face no consequences for doing so (which is where he was when this started), a kid in a ghetto doesn't need Kaepernick to tell him that's true; he likely sees it and often. From the standpoint of black lives lost at the hands of bad cops being treated as something akin collateral damage as a symbol of continued oppression, Kaepernick is merely highlighting the problem through a relatively unique public forum (and he's succeeded wildly in at least making this an issue that has gotten widespread discussion). He's not specifically articulating an issue for someone who would otherwise be unaware of it.

    And the system isn't perfect. It's never going to be perfect.
    It's funny how white folks are perfectly willing to accept the imperfections in the system and tell others who more directly feel the brunt of those imperfections to just accept them. I'm also not sure why -- if we recognize that there are specific imperfections in the system -- we wouldn't at least explore the possibility of correcting them. Unless, of course, those with power don't really care to actually correct those imperfections.

    So what about encouraging people to jump over the hurdles that life throws at them? Taking personal accountability? Not relying on the govt. to rescue you, when you're perfectly capable of overcoming those challenges on your own? Isn't that what life is about for most everyone?
    Are you saying that nobody ever encourages kids in socio-economically disadvantaged areas to persevere, to take responsibility for themselves? I think that's happening every day in virtually every impoverished community in America. A significant problem in those communities is that even when kids are taught those lessons and try to live into them, they still struggle to get out of the ghetto or the barrio and ultimately realize that no matter how persistent and self-reliant you might be, a fact of American life in 2016 is that many (most?) of those who come from poverty are destined to remain there specifically because "the system" tends to best serve those who have the power. And we tend to systematically deprive poor folks from ever really attaining any real power to change the system.

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    "take responsibility for themselves"

    dog whistle alert:

    knitters are lazy, irresponsible, cheats, and genetically inferior. Society (we white taxpayers) has given black kids exactly the same opportunity as white kids in well-financed public schools, provided a stress-free, neighborhoods, full of successful black role models, kept safe by white honest, fair, sympathetic cops who shoot blacks dead only after all attempts to de-escalate have failed. So if blacks fail at life, it's all on them.

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    I'm not sure that's an unassailable point. If Kaepernick's basic grievance is that cops kill black dudes and face no consequences for doing so (which is where he was when this started), a kid in a ghetto doesn't need Kaepernick to tell him that's true; he likely sees it and often. From the standpoint of black lives lost at the hands of bad cops being treated as something akin collateral damage as a symbol of continued oppression, Kaepernick is merely highlighting the problem through a relatively unique public forum (and he's succeeded wildly in at least making this an issue that has gotten widespread discussion). He's not specifically articulating an issue for someone who would otherwise be unaware of it.
    For me there's just so much more as a country that we can/should do to help with what's going on in alot of these African American communities. Kaepernik isn't thinking for himself. He's clearly paying attention to what he sees being covered by the media, & as we can see he's gobbled it all up.

    Like they say, context is everything. If the main goal here is, as it should be, to help underachieving communities, we're doing a ty job of providing what people SEE w/ context & fair analysis. What people see is less of a concern than how they make sense of it all.

    It's funny how white folks are perfectly willing to accept the imperfections in the system and tell others who more directly feel the brunt of those imperfections to just accept them. I'm also not sure why -- if we recognize that there are specific imperfections in the system -- we wouldn't at least explore the possibility of correcting them. Unless, of course, those with power don't really care to actually correct those imperfections.
    You had to reach far into your ass for you to characterize my at ude on this as one of dismissiveness. One because it's insulting & false and two because it's just plain wrong & dumb. All I'm calling for is a fair distribution of focus & balance when it comes to coverage. From where you're standing--hyperfocused on a couple issues, just a couple of pieces of the pie when it comes to the current multi-faceted plight of a lot of African-Americans. I'm not dismissive at all, I'm just aware that there are in addition to this issue of cops using lethal force too unscrupulously against citizens, esp. Blacks), which make no mistake has to be dealt with, there are other issues surrounding the African-American community that have to be addressed & have our attention as well. Of course, this is the realistic, commonsensical approach. The media & politicians, both left & right, don't want to assess our reality for what is, they'd rather paint one of their own & swindle the masses into buying it.

    So yea, your whole premise for my dismissiveness is just made up, stupid & insulting.

    Are you saying that nobody ever encourages kids in socio-economically disadvantaged areas to persevere, to take responsibility for themselves? I think that's happening every day in virtually every impoverished community in America. A significant problem in those communities is that even when kids are taught those lessons and try to live into them, they still struggle to get out of the ghetto or the barrio and ultimately realize that no matter how persistent and self-reliant you might be, a fact of American life in 2016 is that many (most?) of those who come from poverty are destined to remain there specifically because "the system" tends to best serve those who have the power. And we tend to systematically deprive poor folks from ever really attaining any real power to change the system.
    It's not encourged by the media is what I'm saying. It's also not encouraged by politicians. The left has its talking points, the right has its own. It's either this way or the other way. It's bull . And Kaepernik is now a cog--a big one bec. of his celebrity--in peddling that bull . And they're on the left & right.

    I get that their is cause for investigation into this particular issue. I also get can't understand that for the better part of what maybe two years now, pretty much all we've heard about in terms of the different problems facing black communities is this issue of unwarranted use of deadly force by white cops toward black people.

    A big issue no doubt, but the media has used it to define in narrow terms the black experience by giving it the first 10 rows of seats. It's not that it's untrue, it's that its place in the narrative, authored by the media & politicians, is problematic.

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    ok, on a lighter note.......pretty funny what that police assoc. exec said about the league.


    roger is probably looking to kill kaepernick.

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    Welp, he put his money where his mouth is. Will his critics and the rest of the PC bro? Nope

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    The outrage is so stupid. This isn't north korea where you have to worship the state. IMO the pledge, anthem, all that patriotism crap is fine if that thing is for you. But to shame someone with it is just fascist and demonstrates your complete ignorance of what freedom actually means. Not that America is free at all. That just makes the irony all the more delicious.

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    Like I said pages ago. Power move.

    Now he has other players taking a knee and not standing up.

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    The outrage is so stupid. This isn't north korea where you have to worship the state. IMO the pledge, anthem, all that patriotism crap is fine if that thing is for you. But to shame someone with it is just fascist and demonstrates your complete ignorance of what freedom actually means. Not that Aimerica is free at all. That just makes the irony all the more delicious.
    You were doing so well...until you made that ridiculous statement.

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    There I was, the black grandson of a slave, the son of a black sharecropper, part of a historic occasion, a symbolic hero to my people. The air was sparkling. The sunlight was warm. The band struck up the national anthem. The flag billowed in the wind. It should have been a glorious moment for me as the stirring words of the national anthem poured from the stands. Perhaps, it was, but then again, perhaps, the anthem could be called the theme song for a drama called The Noble Experiment. Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made.

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