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    Thought that was a hearse for a second.

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    wishful thinking, Darrin

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    clinton has to much much ego to drop out but the current president could start indicment charges and then they could I believe replace her
    You worship maniacal egomaniacs, what's the problem...

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    Trump's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway called his supporters: "downright nasty" & "skeeze"



    Donald Trump’s own campaign manager agrees that his supporters are a “basket of deplorables”.

    Kellyanne Conway, who worked for Ted Cruz, called Trump’s supporters “downright nasty” and above their "skeeze" on the John Gambling show in February.

    She starts trashing Trump’s supporters at 26 minutes into the interview. Please listen below. She even referenced how his supporters use the “Canadian Ted” birther attack.


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA — trademark bubbanomics

    ‘Who’s (Trump) supporters, by the way, have been downright nasty to everyone else.'

    At this point, after trashing his supporters, she goes on to tell Gambling how wonderful Trump is and then proceeds to call his supporters “skeeze”.

    'I think some of his supporters are way over their skeeze and have been downright nasty. You know, Cruz the Canadian.'

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=263224&page=4



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    the partisan division is close, so that stands to reason. your point that Trump won the primaries means that the people he defeated wouldn't be better rivals against HRC in the general is less persuasive -- the general election is a much different sort of contest than the GOP primary.

    I do think that most of guys who lost to Trump in the primary would be stronger than Trump in the general election, and that most of them would be favorites against HRC, who is a historically unpopular and deeply flawed candidate. But who knows with theses silly counterfactuals -- they're not testable.
    The general election electorate is not a static thing, though. We've seen more this year than in any other that there are segments of society that can be motivated to participate by different candidates. What I mean to say is that the GOP electorate in 2016 is substantially different in the general election (and in the primary) than 2012. Primaries are indeed different than general elections for many reason, but none of the "mainstream" GOP candidates possessed enough savy to get out of each others way and the RNC didn't posses enough power as a party to actually control its own destiny. For these same candidates to be considered favorites, we'd have to forget that they can't build coalitions among their own support base and that they couldn't even get out of each others way. There's definitely a wave of white nationalism which has helped Trump, but a large part of his success is built upon the malpractice of the RNC and its members in terms of acting as a functioning political party.

    Clinton gets sold short quite often because people point out her problems. She's not well liked, she's had plenty of scandals (legit or not), and she's so secretive. Another perspective is one that takes note that its pretty amazing she's succeeded in spite of this.

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    Actually, many Trump voters are in one basket and it’s both racist and economically frustrated


    What Hillary got wrong in her controversial "basket of deplorables" slam of Trump voters


    was also obviously true: many Donald Trump supporters are motivated by racism.

    “Just to be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables,”

    “They’re racist, sexist, phobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it…But the other basket…of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change…Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.”

    Clinton was wrong to divide Trump voters between the bigoted and economically anxious because many are both, and the two things are interrelated.

    Trump is getting a lot of support from professional racists on the white supremacist and alt-right, and reducing his base of support to any single cons uency is a fool’s errand. But for many Trump voters, anger and anxiety over economic decline and precarity, the rising status of women and people of color, demographic change caused by immigration, and the country’s waning global powerafter more than a decade of costly and futile global warfare, are all wrapped into one big sense of foreboding terror.

    the intersection of exploitative economics and white supremacy certainly isn’t: white economic anxiety is used to foment racism, and racism is manipulated to further elite economic interests.

    America’s racial caste system has long been perpetuated by “appealing to the racism and vulnerability of lower-class whites, a group of people who are understandably eager to ensure that they never find themselves trapped at the bottom of the American totem pole.”

    “Beginning in the 1970s, conservatives deployed a highly racialized strategy that relentlessly linked public ins utions to undeserving minorities in order to undo the country’s social contract,” Haney-López and McGhee continue. “The reactionary economic agenda made possible by dog-whistle politics is responsible not just for the devaluing of black lives but for the declining fortunes of the majority of white families.”

    America’s racial caste system depends on white supremacy to ensure white privileges and oligarchic prerogatives. And so Clinton is right: we should understand and empathize with many Trump voters. Not because establishment liberalism has much to offer them but because their problems are bound up with those of the people who they hate.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/09/12/actu...ly-frustrated/

    Hillary spoke the truth: Trash's appeal to racism, bigotry, misogyny, xenophobia, jingoism has been responded to by the solidly Repug base. All Hillary did was speak the truth, and Trash and the Repug establishment ing know it.

    The Repug establishment has been depending on fomenting, explloiting hate for 50 years.



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    Trash's wishful thinking, but he's WRONG as always

    What Donald Trump considers ‘the biggest mistake’ of 2016


    he Trump campaign, looking for any kind of opportunity to change the trajectory of the race, quickly put together this 30-second commercial, highlighting Clinton’s comments. The Republican ticket will reportedly invest $2 million in support of the ad, which is scheduled to air in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina.

    And if Clinton’s camp had its way, Team Trump would probably invest even more – because this is a fight the Democratic campaign would love to have.

    For Trump, there’s no real upside to this fight.

    Most Americans already see him as a racist and a misogynist, who’s gotten ahead thanks to the support of other racists and misogynists.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), frustrated over Trump’s rise in GOP politics, argued earlier this year that

    35% of his party is made up of racists – an observation that much of the political world found so unremarkable, it was largely ignored.

    There’s probably room for a debate over whether the most accurate total is somewhere between 35% and 50%, but it’s hard to imagine a scenario in which Trump would benefit from such a discussion.

    In fact, the Washington Post’s Greg Sargent, among others, highlighted ample polling data over the weekend that suggests

    Clinton’s criticisms are rooted in fact – a detail the Trump campaign has made no effort thus far to dispute.


    Does the Republican Party see an upside to re-litigating Trump’s previous comments that have alienated women, Latinos, African Americans, Muslims, veterans, people with disabilities, Native Americans, and Jews?

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow



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    Anti-Gay, Anti-Catholic, Anti-Mormon Pastor Accuses Hillary Clinton Of 'Hate Speech'

    Hillary Clinton’s comments over the weekend about the “deplorables” who support Donald Trump have

    resulted in some deliciously ironic criticism from Trump and some of his supporters.

    Among the Trump supporters slamming Clinton was Robert Jeffress, a pastor with a long record of anti-gay, anti-Mormon and anti-Catholic rhetoric, who accused Clinton of “hate speech” and “intolerance.”


    “I tell you, it reveals the hypocrisy of liberalism, and that is liberals who cry loudest for tolerance are usually the most intolerant people in the world when it comes to ideas with which they disagree,” Jeffress told conservative radio host Mike Gallagher today.

    “I mean, think about it, according to Clinton you’re a racist if you believe in secure borders, you’re xenophobic if you believe people ought to only be in this country legally and you’re phobic if you believe in traditional marriage.

    The fact is, Hillary Clinton is exhibit A of intolerance and her comments Friday were nothing but hate speech.”

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...on-hate-speech

    Holy , you ing rightwingnuts are ing hilarious



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    Fox Business Invites On A Deplorable Hate Group Leader To Defend The "Basket Of Deplorables"

    Fox Business’ Stuart Varney hosted Tony Perkins, a leader of a hate group who tried to make sexuality punishable by death,

    Perkins is the leader of the Family Research Council (FRC), an organization the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has designated an anti-LGBT “hate group” due to its known propagation of extreme falsehoods about LGBT people.

    Perkins used his platform on Varney’s show to try to flip the “deplorables” point -- in which Clinton was noting the racist, sexist, phobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic” views of many Trump supporters -- and attack the Clinton Foundation for receiving donations from countries where “those that are considered deplorable” can receive the death penalty.

    But Varney failed to note that

    Perkins is himself one of the driving forces behind such laws;

    he and his group have lobbied to criminalize sexuality internationally, and

    they supported a bill in Uganda that would have made same-sex relations
    punishable by life in prison or death.

    The Fox Business interview also omits any mention of the

    millions Trump made from conducting business in Saudi Arabia -- one of the countries to which Perkins was alluding --

    despite Trump’s attempts to smear the Clinton Foundation for accepting Saudi donations.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/09/12/fox-business-invites-deplorable-hate-group-leader-defend-basket-deplorables/213011?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_c ampaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+Blog%29



    The HATERS just HATE to be called HATERS!



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    Trash has mainstreamed, exposed as legitimate bigots, racists, KKK, xenophobes

    And you Trash supporters are racists, bigots, xenophobes, too.

    Who's Deplorable?




    In one of the more surreal but telling moments of the 2016 campaign last night,

    Trump supporter David Duke took to Twitter

    to attack Wolf BIitzer after Mike Pence refused to call Duke "deplorable."


    David Duke @DrDavidDuke

    Wolf Blitzer demands that Pense call me "Deplorable" and he refuses..

    Wolfie boy, still upset that I outed you on CNN as an AIPAC AGENT?

    8:38 PM - 12 Sep 2016
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/who-s-deplorable?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&u tm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

    Hey, I'm a deplorable RACIST, too, don't leave me out!

    AIPAC? Duke, loving the deplorable TRASH, is the political dud with a nose-job, and hates JOOZE as much as he hates KNITTERS.



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    and back to this Trash

    ‘This is badgering’: Trump campaign manager comes unglued when CNN asks for proof of charity claims



    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/this...e+Raw+Story%29

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    Only whackos like Bookaki give a what David Duke tweets.

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    Yes, half of Trump supporters are racist

    BALTIMORE — Hillary Clinton may have been unwise to say half of Donald Trump’s supporters are racists and other “deplorables.” But she wasn’t wrong.

    If anything, when it comes to Trump’s racist support, she might have low-balled the number.

    this isn’t a matter of gratuitous name-calling. This election has proved that there is much more racism in America than many believed. It came out of hiding in opposition to the first African American president, and it has been welcomed into the open by Trump.

    The American National Election Studies, the long-running, extensive poll of American voters, asked voters in 2012 a basic test of prejudice: to rank black and white people on a scale from hardworking to lazy and from intelligent to unintelligent.

    The researchers found that 62 percent of white people gave black people a lower score in at least one of the attributes.

    This was a jump in prejudicial at udes from 2008, when 45 percent of white people expressed negative stereotypes.

    This question is a good indicator of how one votes: Republican Mitt Romney won 61 percent of those who expressed negative stereotypes.

    And, when the question was asked during the 2008 primaries, those with negative racial stereotypes consistently favored Republican candidates — any of them — over any Democratic candidate in hypothetical matchups.


    “There is plenty of overt white prejudice,” observes Simon Jackman, who directed the ANES until earlier this year and now runs the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney. “Whites who reported prejudicial beliefs about blacks skewed heavily Republican in 2008 and 2012 — and they will in 2016.”

    for the large number of racists drawn to Trump, the shoe fits.

    the Pew Research Center found that 79 percent of Clinton voters believe the treatment of racial and ethnic minorities is an important issue, while only 42 percent of Trump supporters feel that way.

    As I wrote previously, earlier Pew research found that Trump supporters were significantly less likely than other Americans (and supporters of other Republican presidential candidates) to think that racial and ethnic diversity improves the United States.

    Trump does best among Americans who express racial animus. Evidence indicates fear that white people are losing ground was the single greatest predictor of support for Trump — more, even, than economic anxiety.

    If you are “very enthusiastic” about a candidate who has based his campaign on

    scapegoating immigrants, Latinos and African Americans,

    talked of banning Muslims from the country,

    hesitated to disown the Ku Klux Klan and

    employed anti-Semitic imagery —

    well, you might be a racist.


    The new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds the two groups roughly equal: Forty-six percent of Trump supporters say they are “very enthusiastic” about his candidacy. The rest were “somewhat” or not terribly enthusiastic.

    Trump, on stage, rejected any notion of racism, saying people who want secure borders “are not racists,” people who warn of “radical Islamic terrorism are not Islamophobes” and people who support police “are not prejudiced.” But moments later, he repeated the campaign slogan he borrowed from an anti-Semitic organization that opposed involvement in World War II.

    “America First – remember that,” he said. “America First.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/clinton-wasnt-wrong-about-the-deplorables-among-trumps-supporters/2016/09/12/93720264-
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    Of course, Trash's "America First!" is dog-whistle for "White-Euro-America First", and very obviously, the racist dogs hear it loud and clear.

    Duke and Trash, dog-whistling with their Aryan fair-haired dye jobs!

    France's Jew-hating Le Pen does the same.




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    Which side is the one that has the problem when you are arguing with your opponent about what percentage of your supporters are literally white supremacists?

    The Trump campaign can act as offended as it likes, but they still have to account for the literal white supremacist press conference on Friday praising Donald Trump as their fair leader who's brought their movement so much more attention than they've ever had before.


    Full clip and highlights from the white supremacist press conference here:

    http://on.msnbc.com/2cLwUjn

    Has anybody found any Trash team people DENYING Trash's supporters are racists?

    or are they really just
    arguing 35% vs 50% deplorables?



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    Which side is the one that has the problem when you are arguing with your opponent about what percentage of your supporters are literally white supremacists?

    The Trump campaign can act as offended as it likes, but they still have to account for the literal white supremacist press conference on Friday praising Donald Trump as their fair leader who's brought their movement so much more attention than they've ever had before.


    Full clip and highlights from the white supremacist press conference here:

    http://on.msnbc.com/2cLwUjn

    Has anybody found any Trash team people DENYING Trash's supporters are racists?

    or are they really just
    arguing 35% vs 50% deplorables?


    I think they're arguing that being a racist or a white supremacist doesn't make you a deplorable human being.

    Just look at a number of posters here on ST. Many wear their racism as a badge of honor. Others are openly racist, but pretend they were just joking when called on it.

    ST is teeming with deplorables
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    You guys need to read the definition of racism.

    The problem is you fsggots have expanded the definition to include anything that disturbs your "safe space" whether it's true or not.

    example:

    Stating that blacks commit a disproportionate percentage of murders and crime is a fact. It's not a racist statement.

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    You guys need to read the definition of racism.

    The problem is you fsggots have expanded the definition to include anything that disturbs your "safe space" whether it's true or not.

    example:

    Stating that blacks commit a disproportionate percentage of murders and crime is a fact. It's not a racist statement.
    I don't think that is a racist statement. I do think a racist person may use that statement of fact in an effort to argue a point that is driven by racism.

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    I don't think that is a racist statement. I do think a racist person may use that statement of fact in an effort to argue a point that is driven by racism.
    Personally I think that the percentage of people that actually believe that superior/inferior is defined by skin pigment is extremely small, not nearly the 30-50% that is popularly quoted.

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    Personally I think that the percentage of people that actually believe that superior/inferior is defined by skin pigment is extremely small, not nearly the 30-50% that is popularly quoted.
    30-50% of the American population? That number is outlandish. Where is that popularly quoted?

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    Personally I think that the percentage of people that actually believe that superior/inferior is defined by skin pigment is extremely small, not nearly the 30-50% that is popularly quoted.
    one of our resident racists, CC, is justifying his racism by defining racism extremely narrowly, so he can congratulate himself by being outside of his bull definition.

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    For the 100th time. Racism is not only feeling superior. It's also not wanting other races to intermingle with yours and bullying, disrespecting them in streets, restaurants and other public areas.

    Wake up sheeple

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    one of our resident racists, CC, is justifying his racism by defining racism extremely narrowly, so he can congratulate himself by being outside of his bull definition.
    It's the definition of racism head. Look it up.

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    Trump Has 5-Point Lead in Bloomberg Poll of Battleground Ohio

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    ST is teeming with deplorables
    yep, deplorable. every single ing Trash supporter qualifies

    and yep, Trash's people are arguing NOT that their supporters aren't racists, bigots, xenophobes, but that Trash's racists, bigots, xenophobes aren't deplorable.

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    Trump Has 5-Point Lead in Bloomberg Poll of Battleground Ohio
    OH voter suppression just got confirmed by the courts. Adding in Repug Secy of State vote-counting fraud, OH will probably go Trash. Trash is as trash votes.

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