Zach Lowe : "I think there is mutual interest between CP3 and the Spurs" + LMA future

[coachmac87]

I meant having big contracts off the books and allowing flexibility to move forward, not necessarily targeting anybody in that class..

That doesn't make sense lol

[cd98]

I'd be shocked if the Spurs even met with Chris Paul.

[Robz4000]

I meant having big contracts off the books and allowing flexibility to move forward, not necessarily targeting anybody in that class..

You also have to worry about Kawhi though. While going after these 30+ year old stars is a risky gamble, if the Spurs do nothing Kawhi may see it as the Spurs not doing anything to win. He'll be a FA in 2019 most likely and in that scenario the Spurs would have to throw the $200mil max at him to stay or lose him altogether. Since 2018 is looking like a dud they might as well see if they can land CP0 and give Kawhi a legitimate shot the next two years. If that fails then at least the Spurs made the effort in Kawhi's eyes.

[dabom]

I meant having big contracts off the books and allowing flexibility to move forward, not necessarily targeting anybody in that class..

RC is the best numbers guy. Dude probably has plans on plans on plans.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Doc will suck CP3's nutsack until he relents and resigns with the Clips. He'll get wined and dined and then re-sign.

[snickles]

That doesn't make sense lol

Sure it does. It puts you in a position to offer a contract or to absorb salary in a trade. Cap space isn't always for a FA.

(assuming we are under the cap in 2018, haven't looked at the numbers in awhile)

[kaji157]

What can i say, game wise i like him, i don't see his game declining fast.
Behaviour wise it seems like pop loves the guy, i don't think he is such a if pop is always so high on him.

[raybies]

Doc will suck CP3's nutsack until he relents and resigns with the Clips. He'll get wined and dined and then re-sign.

they'll kidnap him tbh (think DeAndre Jordon)

[TheDoctor]

You also have to worry about Kawhi though. While going after these 30+ year old stars is a risky gamble, if the Spurs do nothing Kawhi may see it as the Spurs not doing anything to win. He'll be a FA in 2019 most likely and in that scenario the Spurs would have to throw the $200mil max at him to stay or lose him altogether. Since 2018 is looking like a dud they might as well see if they can land CP0 and give Kawhi a legitimate shot the next two years. If that fails then at least the Spurs made the effort in Kawhi's eyes.

PATFO don't do this things blindly without talking/consulting to Kawhi first man. I'm 100% sure that all changes concerning staff/players are discussed first with him.

[Brazil]

Yeah but I'm curious how much Paul can save with the NO STATE INCOME TAX and if that makes a difference..

IIRC difference about what Spurs can affor and Clips is very significant, I highly doubt tax saving would compensate tbh

[TD 21]

people keep talking about saving for 2018 but who are we really going after next year? Boogie? PG? no chance they're coming here tbh

Don't mind him. On the one hand, he'll tell you the talent in the league has never been better, then on the other hand, he'll poke holes in 99% of players and act as if you can literally pick and choose from that amount when building a team.

It sounds nice to say wait (as if there's some big score on the horizon) and don't "overpay" players in their 30's, but what's the alternative?

It's not happening, but just theoretically, I'd rather have Paul, a second top 10 player, a puncher's chance at the Warriors and be possibly one break away from a championship, than worry about what level he'll be at in years 3 and 4 and the amount he'll be making. Of course, ideally you wouldn't want to pay him that, but that rare opportunity supersedes that.

[kaji157]

PATFO don't do this things blindly without talking/consulting to Kawhi first man. I'm 100% sure that all changes concerning staff/players are discussed first with him.

Over the years "decitions" table was formed with Pop, RC and the players, i remember an article Manu wrote before about the first time he and Tony were "invited" to that table, i am sure Kawhi and Aldridge are now on it.
in the past i would have been Tim and the Admiral i guess.

[spursistan]

To me, Kawhi making that leap into being, uncontroversially, the 2nd best player in the world has been a game changer these playoffs..The dude has made 27/7/7 look like a routine stat-line a la Lebron. He just had the most dominant postseason of Spurs player since 2003 Duncan. And, with his health not exactly of bullet-proof variety, there are no guarantees 4 years from now. Might as well go take a crack at the Warriors with Leonard at the peak of his powers and another bonafide Top 7-8 player in the league..Only CP3 fits the bill..

[raybies]

There's only one player this free agency that makes sense and is worth the headache of all the roster moves needed to make it work, not to mention the gutting of the team and that's Chris Paul. I mean if your gonna go all in do it with someone of his caliber. I've soured on the George Hill, Lowry, Teague, and Holiday front. From a talent standpoint and financial standpoint it's not worth it. That's why I've been warming up to the Derrick Rose idea. Just one year at the right price and see how it goes. it give time to Murray to see if he's ready and if it doesn't work it doesn't work. Same thing with RJ and with Cap Jack. I think it's worth the risk. Don't underestimate the culture here. Pop and the organization garner alot of respect and Pop is just the coach to not give a hoot to put him in his place. It's really if they sit down and Pop lays the law down and if he's willing to accept. There have been some troubled players come here looking for a second chance. Some do well, some don't, but the risk is small. Hence at the right price. So imo you call Paul as soon as Free Agency starts and see what the interest level is. If not you move on. Personally I'd rather keep the team together for the most part and have that advantage. We won 61 games. Well that's where I'm at.

[TD 21]

There's only one player this free agency that makes sense and is worth the headache of all the roster moves needed to make it work, not to mention the gutting of the team and that's Chris Paul. I mean if your gonna go all in do it with someone of his caliber. I've soured on the George Hill, Lowry, Teague, and Holiday front. From a talent standpoint and financial standpoint it's not worth it. That's why I've been warming up to the Derrick Rose idea. Just one year at the right price and see how it goes. it give time to Murray to see if he's ready and if it doesn't work it doesn't work. Same thing with RJ and with Cap Jack. I think it's worth the risk. Don't underestimate the culture here. Pop and the organization garner alot of respect and Pop is just the coach to not give a hoot to put him in his place. It's really if they sit down and Pop lays the law down and if he's willing to accept. There have been some troubled players come here looking for a second chance. Some do well, some don't, but the risk is small. Hence at the right price. So imo you call Paul as soon as Free Agency starts and see what the interest level is. If not you move on. Personally I'd rather keep the team together for the most part and have that advantage. We won 61 games. Well that's where I'm at.

Hill shouldn't require a headache or gutting, just salary dumping Gasol, as far as significant moves go. You can count not retaining Mills too, but he'd be being upgraded.

[coachmac87]

Don't mind him. On the one hand, he'll tell you the talent in the league has never been better, then on the other hand, he'll poke holes in 99% of players and act as if you can literally pick and choose from that amount when building a team.

It sounds nice to say wait (as if there's some big score on the horizon) and don't "overpay" players in their 30's, but what's the alternative?

It's not happening, but just theoretically, I'd rather have Paul, a second top 10 player, a puncher's chance at the Warriors and be possibly one break away from a championship, than worry about what level he'll be at in years 3 and 4 and the amount he'll be making. Of course, ideally you wouldn't want to pay him that, but that rare opportunity supersedes that.

Can't say it any better TD21...

[raybies]

[Seventyniner]

Don't mind him. On the one hand, he'll tell you the talent in the league has never been better, then on the other hand, he'll poke holes in 99% of players and act as if you can literally pick and choose from that amount when building a team.

It sounds nice to say wait (as if there's some big score on the horizon) and don't "overpay" players in their 30's, but what's the alternative?

It's not happening, but just theoretically, I'd rather have Paul, a second top 10 player, a puncher's chance at the Warriors and be possibly one break away from a championship, than worry about what level he'll be at in years 3 and 4 and the amount he'll be making. Of course, ideally you wouldn't want to pay him that, but that rare opportunity supersedes that.

Agreed. This team is built to win now and it will take a big move like getting Paul to have a real shot at the Warriors.

[JuneJive]

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Logic says yes to this.

[SpursBig3s]

Pretty sure this this pic is from 2015, after we lost to the Clips

[FkLA]

When did Kawhichael have those crazy ass braids?

[BillMc]

[TheDoctor]

Pretty sure this this pic is from 2015, after we lost to the Clips

Yep, from a Jordan Brand camp if I remember correctly. People talked about how big and buffed-up Kawhi looked that summer. He looks easily 15-20 pounds over his end of Season weight.

[coachmac87]

It's crazy that the season isn't even over and this story has caught so much fire lmao

[spursistan]