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    Bob Bass was the GM in 1993 the year Rodman arrived. After Rodman got here, he started demanding a new contract which Bass and the Spurs resisted. Rodman was quoted as saying something derogatory about, "Bill Bass, or whatever that guy's name is." In 1994 McCombs sold the Spurs and Gen. McDermott fired Bass and brought in Pop as GM. The 94-95 season was a circus culminating with Rodman's antics in the playoffs. The comments about Rodman's debts and financial troubles were told to me by a member of Spurs management. Although later on I knew several people who had heard the same story.
    It was McDermott's daughter who recommended Pop, right?

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    And that's an ex-professional player advocating hold out...
    He was a winner and a true compe or. He would never tolerate that bull with somebody on his team. Especially a team that had actual championship aspirations. He is just basically trolling on TV now.

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    And that's an ex-professional player advocating hold out...
    Worse than typical holdout. At least when players do hold out they speak up and have a reason. Never seen this big of a crier since durant lebron carmelo. ..... oh todays nba where your dad can get you drafted

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    I was pretty disgusted watching undisputed today when Shannon Sharpe who just basically wants the Lakers or whoever to get this guy so he can pair up with LeBron, was basically saying “well he can just fake the injury all he wants next season and refuse to play until they trade him”.. That behavior is ing disgraceful. $19 million so you can pretend that you are injured and some people are actually cool with that. What the is going on? How the did he have such an amazing season and last couple of years with us and now all of a sudden this is what is going on? What the happened?
    All these sports networks want Kawhi in LA so they are going to be one sided when it comes to being honest about what's going on. If Kawhi was pulling this in NYC or LA he would be getting but since it's SA it's ok to do.

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    I was pretty disgusted watching undisputed today when Shannon Sharpe who just basically wants the Lakers or whoever to get this guy so he can pair up with LeBron, was basically saying “well he can just fake the injury all he wants next season and refuse to play until they trade him”.. That behavior is ing disgraceful. $19 million so you can pretend that you are injured and some people are actually cool with that. What the is going on? How the did he have such an amazing season and last couple of years with us and now all of a sudden this is what is going on? What the happened?
    Dude i am so lost with this. I need Sean Elliott to explain it to me.

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    Spurs played nice last season. If he continues to refuse to play despite being cleared then I suspect he'll be suspended by the team without pay. Holdouts occur in the NFL but not really in the NBA.

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    I was pretty disgusted watching undisputed today when Shannon Sharpe who just basically wants the Lakers or whoever to get this guy so he can pair up with LeBron, was basically saying “well he can just fake the injury all he wants next season and refuse to play until they trade him”.. That behavior is ing disgraceful. $19 million so you can pretend that you are injured and some people are actually cool with that. What the is going on? How the did he have such an amazing season and last couple of years with us and now all of a sudden this is what is going on? What the happened?
    What happened is his uncle and his agent have no other clients and are trying to build their businesses off him. They ran off the experienced NBA agent in their group who had a very good relationship with the Spurs. The current agent doesn't represent any other NBA players and I think he has been a NFL agent. You have to assume Leonard is comfortable with this plan to make Leonard into a bigger star and parlay that into attracting more clients. It's ed up because for Leonard personally the deterioration they've caused in the relationship with the Spurs likely has ruined his chances at getting a good part of the supermax extension.

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    or marcus bryant

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    The worst thing he ever did was allowing this asshole of an Uncle to get into his head this badly. He wants to send him to the largest and most pressure filled media market in the country to play basketball in. Yes you are from California, but that does not mean you are suited to play for the Los Angeles Lakers. Whenever they have even a remotely good team, it is championship or bust. And because it is Hollywood, they also expect their great basketball players to have some semblance of a personality. He has no personality of any kind. He doesn’t ing speak. He doesn’t perform there, or refuses to play hurt, they will be calling for his head. Let’s also not gloss over the fact that he will be going to play for a young and completely unproven head coach. Leaving behind one of the great head coaches of all time, that helped to mentor and get him to where he is right now as a player. He does not belong with the Lakers. It’s completely the wrong fit.
    Like I always say:

    You might get what you want, but you might not want what you get.

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    What happened is his uncle and his agent have no other clients and are trying to build their businesses off him. They ran off the experienced NBA agent in their group who had a very good relationship with the Spurs. The current agent doesn't represent any other NBA players and I think he has been a NFL agent. You have to assume Leonard is comfortable with this plan to make Leonard into a bigger star and parlay that into attracting more clients. It's ed up because for Leonard personally the deterioration they've caused in the relationship with the Spurs likely has ruined his chances at getting a good part of the supermax extension.
    Very well said!!

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    I was pretty disgusted watching undisputed today when Shannon Sharpe who just basically wants the Lakers or whoever to get this guy so he can pair up with LeBron, was basically saying “well he can just fake the injury all he wants next season and refuse to play until they trade him”.. That behavior is ing disgraceful. $19 million so you can pretend that you are injured and some people are actually cool with that. What the is going on? How the did he have such an amazing season and last couple of years with us and now all of a sudden this is what is going on? What the happened?
    This. It's so strange to hear the media bury the Spurs for doubting Kawhi's injury and then turn around and take it for granted he could continue to sit out if they don't give him what he wants (a trade to LA); It's like they too think he was faking, yet, want to pounce on the Spurs because a) its their first chance in 20 years and that makes it a story in itself and b) Kawhi and Lebron in LA is good for their TV ratings. Screw parity for small markets.

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    either way Kawhitter is a piece of . i hope we dont hang on to this autistic

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    What happened is his uncle and his agent have no other clients and are trying to build their businesses off him. They ran off the experienced NBA agent in their group who had a very good relationship with the Spurs. The current agent doesn't represent any other NBA players and I think he has been a NFL agent. You have to assume Leonard is comfortable with this plan to make Leonard into a bigger star and parlay that into attracting more clients. It's ed up because for Leonard personally the deterioration they've caused in the relationship with the Spurs likely has ruined his chances at getting a good part of the supermax extension.
    All very plausible and insane. You have to think for yourself Leonard. If this is what you really want fine, but if you let yourself be manipulated by your Uncle to put yourself in this spot, shame on you. Grow up and be a man already. You are 27..

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    This is now just transcends business and sport; it is about basic human relations..

    It simply defies credulity how this guy has managed to hide all this cancerousness, selfishness and utter cowardice for all these years.

    Not even the most dedicated Kawhi skeptics could have imagined he is going to engage in this open charade and carry it to its disgraceful end.

    Unless it emerges that this guy was mentally-challenged in some respect; there is no sympathy for him but he should go down as one of the biggest frauds to have ever set a foot in a professional sport.

    It is a hard lesson to be learned: never ever judge people from the outside looking.

    And no, the Spurs should not take it on the chin. This has been a willful and gratuitous attempt to destroy them and drag their unassailable reputation through the mud.

    This is indeed one of the instances when it is truly "not just about basketball" as Pop famous motto goes. Their prudence and class should know a limit as they play the endgame..

    Even if this piece of cowers and get reeled in, it will never be the same again with him.
    At this point it's clear the dude is on the autism spectrum tbqh

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    So this got is now intentionally tanking his value by telling teams he will only resign for the Lakers.

    Like seriously, any supposed Spur fan who is still caping for this disgrace is devoid of any dignity and pride. Simple as that.

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    per reddit:


    (Aldridge) "Pop told Kawhi during their meeting in June that they would acquire another All Star if he committed to them long term and that they would win the West this upcoming season."


    David Aldridge reporting on nba tv. Speculated that kemba walker is the all star they would acquire. Said Kawhi is still not interested in staying with team, but Spurs are still hopeful that could change.
    David Aldridge is well-respected around the league. Now marinate on this Spursfans ^..

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    The balls on this mute to say no to the GOAT coach and model franchise, who are willing to make a pretty big financial commitment to win. I can imagine a still grieving Pop bringing the fire at the thought of what they could do next year together, promising to win the West. And I can imagine this brainwashed, mute with a blank expression the whole time and then silently muttering "nah I'm good". ing back stabbing, treacherous piece of .
    FkLA from the other the thread..Nothing to add really

    I'll be rooting for that quad to gangrene and explode on this disgraceful ..This is how he treats his mentor coming off a personal tragedy? him..

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    Kawhi is really qualified to do only two things:

    1) Play professional basketball.

    2) Be a mime.

    And you didn't see Marcel Marceau sitting out whole seasons.

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    David Aldridge is well-respected around the league. Now marinate on this Spursfans ^..
    Like I said all along, it's all about kawhi lost trust in the franchise, after they let him down over and over again those past years since last le, not being all about winning with a lot bs in their minds and being too cute while him being all about winning and all business... Now they trying to fix it but it's too late, he made his mind up and have to keep true to himself with this decision... Fans here should stop rant about kiwi and start putting the blaming fingers on pop and co...

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    Like I said all along, it's all about kawhi lost trust in the franchise, after they let him down over and over again those past years since last le, not being all about winning with a lot bs in their minds and being too cute while him being all about winning and all business... Now they trying to fix it but it's too late, he made his mind up and have to keep true to himself with this decision... Fans here should stop rant about kiwi and start putting the blaming fingers on pop and co...
    2015. he got his hit pushed in by Matt Barnes in his first year as the guy
    2016. Andre Robertson imposed his will. He was an MIA in a crucial Game 2 vs the Thunder..
    2017. He was in Conference Finals courtesy of the team winning a Game 6 on the road and clutching out a Game 5 WITHOUT HIM in the fourth Quarter and OT

    He then QUIT on them. Disgusting cowardice..He absolutely has no room.

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    2015. he got his hit pushed in by Matt Barnes in his first year as the guy
    2016. Andre Robertson imposed his will. He was an MIA in a crucial Game 2 vs the Thunder..
    2017. He was in Conference Finals courtesy of the team winning a Game 6 on the road and clutching out a Game 5 WITHOUT HIM in the fourth Quarter and OT

    He then QUIT on them. Disgusting cowardice..He absolutely has no room.

    Pop and co quit the team since last le, Pop being full of himself, soft and too cute, not carring enough about winning with such a bad managment and coaching, Pop: "winning is great but vacation is good also", Pop not about winning anymore, caring too much about politic, media looking and loyality, Kawhi just put Pop and co in their Place somthing the fans should have done long ago instead making him a god, now Pop and fans got what they deserved!
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    Pop and co quit the team since last le, Pop being full of himself not carring enough about winning with such a bad managment and coaching, Pop: "winning is great but vacation is good also", Pop not about winning anymore, caring too much about politic and media looking, Kawhi just put Pop and co in their Place somthing the fans should have done long ago instead making him a god, now Pop and fans got what they deserved!
    Pop cared about winning your full of . In '15 he actively went after LMA and David West along with adding Simmons. In '16 the Spurs added David Lee, Dedmon, Gasol which were great additions. Spurs would have won in '16 if Zaza didn't take out Kawhi so you can't say the Spurs weren't focused on winning. You have right to about their moves in '17 but outside of that the Spurs have been super committed to trying to put together a championship team. if Kawhi played this year they would have had a chance to beat Golden State.

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    Pop cared about winning your full of . In '15 he actively went after LMA and David West along with adding Simmons. In '16 the Spurs added David Lee, Dedmon, Gasol which were great additions. Spurs would have won in '16 if Zaza didn't take out Kawhi so you can't say the Spurs weren't focused on winning. You have right to about their moves in '17 but outside of that the Spurs have been super committed to trying to put together a championship team. if Kawhi played this year they would have had a chance to beat Golden State.
    and what about 2014, staying put? that season was such a miss oportonity to repeat, Pop was so too cute and soft with his coaching also, that when he help bigtime to form the warriors by gift them the first le, since then spurs one step behind and a messed up team cause Pop took a year of and not doing enough to recover cause he also have a lot bs other than winning in his mind...

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    and what about 2014, staying put? that season was such a miss oportonity to repeat, Pop was so too cute and soft with his coaching also, that when he help bigtime to form the warriors by gift them the first le, since then spurs one step behind and a messed up team cause Pop took a year of and not doing enough to recover cause he also have a lot bs other than winning in his mind...
    Spurs got screwed with a lot of injuries in 2015 which put them in a bad situation seeding wise. Splitter was playing with a broken calf during the playoffs, Parker was also hurt with a major injury and experienced a significant drop off. It just wasn't meant to be in 2015. I doubt Pop could predict the future and see that his team was going to have a load of injuries during the summer of '14. I didn't blame him for keeping that team in tact because I felt they were also good enough to win it all again and probably would have had they not been hit with all those injuries. Also the Spurs tried to get Gasol in the summer of '14 but ended up losing out on him due to Chicago offering him more money which the Spurs couldn't match due to being over the cap.

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    2015. he got his hit pushed in by Matt Barnes in his first year as the guy
    2016. Andre Robertson imposed his will. He was an MIA in a crucial Game 2 vs the Thunder..
    2017. He was in Conference Finals courtesy of the team winning a Game 6 on the road and clutching out a Game 5 WITHOUT HIM in the fourth Quarter and OT

    He then QUIT on them. Disgusting cowardice..He absolutely has no room.
    With "fans" like you I guess I don't blame Kawhi for wanting to leave. Smh

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