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    Todays nba sending Boogie in to sort out Draymond and zazaaa. Lol

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    He doesn't need to be tbh.
    Was thinking the same thing, when you have basically 4 all stars your injuries heal during the season

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    Why am I going to spend the time following the local smaller market team when the good players will leave? The NBA had a solution to this that worked reasonably well, some of it contractual, some of it, well, tradition based. Joining the team that just punked your team out of the playoffs used to be thought of as a move.

    The next time the local NBA team threatens to leave if it doesn't get a public subsidy for a new arena, well, bye.
    Yep. That's why I foresee a nationwide popularity decline in the coming decade. Why should a Bucks fan get invested in Giannis and his team when there's a higher than high probability he leaves for a marquee franchise? The MLB has its fair share of market chasers, but the difference is individual players really don't swing a team's fortunes and if a club develops right, they'll likely have an exciting prospect coming in. Blue Jays are a good example. The centerpieces of their franchises for the past few years (Donaldson and Bautista) are done/gone, but waiting in the wings in Vlad Guerrero Jr and about 3 other intriguing prospects. That's also why I advocate for the NBA to have a similar development system as baseball (lol NCAA and D-League "development"). Spurs are a smart club who develop just about better than anyone so we'd likely have a Vlad Guerrero Jr. coming, so Kawhi leaving wouldn't really sting that much. Be interesting to see what the Spurs could do with a baseball style farm system.

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    Is this a compe ion anymore? He would have easily gotten 10 mil more for one year too many teams. He could have even gotten 8.6mil to any tax paying team. They will change the cap rules next season to address this farse.

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    Wes Matthews? He's nowhere near as good as he used to be, especially on defense..his first year back was a disaster..
    He got paid though

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    Their concern is also going to take a backseat in the next few years because the teams involved are the Lakers and Warriors, it's not like it's the Pistons and Hawks the league is salivating over a LeBron/Kawhi Lakers duo..
    Indeed. Lebron, Warriors, and Lakers are basically the NBA's driving forces in the US. And Lebron seems in indestructible, so I see him playing at above an all-star level until past 40. After he retires and the Warriors age, who is the next stars though? We saw the how the post-Jordan doldrums sent the league into panic, trying to push Lakers, Kobe, Shaq, and having an internal fit every time teams like the Spurs, Kings, Mavs were threats.

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    Indeed. Lebron, Warriors, and Lakers are basically the NBA's driving forces in the US. And Lebron seems in indestructible, so I see him playing at above an all-star level until past 40. After he retires and the Warriors age, who is the next stars though? We saw the how the post-Jordan doldrums sent the league into panic, trying to push Lakers, Kobe, Shaq, and having an internal fit every time teams like the Spurs, Kings, Mavs were threats.
    I could definitely see a 2000s-like decline following LeBron's retirement..

    That's my favorite part about baseball, but it's not a matter of the league, it's just the design of the sports..Mike Trout might be the best non-juiced hitter of all-time, but he's only made the playoffs once IIRC, doesn't guarantee anything.

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    Is this a compe ion anymore? He would have easily gotten 10 mil more for one year too many teams. He could have even gotten 8.6mil to any tax paying team. They will change the cap rules next season to address this farse.
    The CBA doesn't have an opt out until 2022 I think, but that is going to be one ing ugly lockout.

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    One team with 5 all stars... gots

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    Indeed. Lebron, Warriors, and Lakers are basically the NBA's driving forces in the US. And Lebron seems in indestructible, so I see him playing at above an all-star level until past 40. After he retires and the Warriors age, who is the next stars though? We saw the how the post-Jordan doldrums sent the league into panic, trying to push Lakers, Kobe, Shaq, and having an internal fit every time teams like the Spurs, Kings, Mavs were threats.
    Which of course happened with the prior CBA. Whatever Stern thought/wanted in terms of playoff and Finals matchups, he did create a system which enabled the league to have championship caliber teams in smaller markets.

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    DeMarcus Cousins has been on the Warriors for an hour and he already has as many Finals MVP’s with them as Steph Curry

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    He'll play a half season at best. Low risk / high upside for both sides though.

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    When I heard the news all I did was laugh. TBH nobody should be upset about this move considering Kawhi already destroyed the Spurs status as contenders.

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    i wonder how cousins will feel when Donkey does this to him

    Id love for a Spur , any Spur to do this during a game

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    It's cute that Lakers fans are outraged by this move now that they got LeBron and feel compe ive..they loved cheering for Durant and the Warriors the past 2 seasons

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    Not like Silver cares. This appeals to casual fans .
    Exactly. Casual fans just want the spectacle and brand prestige. Compe ive basketball doesn't matter.

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    The league is a pure joke, if not for the Spurs I would be done with them. I can't believe the NBA officials are letting this happen. This is not how you run a pro league.

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    The league is a pure joke, if not for the Spurs I would be done with them. I can't believe the NBA officials are letting this happen. This is not how you run a pro league.
    Stop watching. Stop buying their advertised products. Just for a year. Things will change

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    Unlikely basbeall takes over anything. Its a declining sport for a reason. Too Slow and it is not dymamic enough.

    Fans in general fall in love with sports when unexpected things happen that never happens in baseball. Theres only one way to score in baseball.

    NBA will take a huge hit after lebron though.

    What i am wondering is how os Hockey declining even more as a sport. Its a decently designed sport but i reckon in 20 years NHL will be an afterthought.

    MLS teams are inching closer to NHL level value. Like Toronto and Vancouver are 300 Million USD teams now. How much is an NHL team worth?

    If anything I think the NFL will monopolize America.
    Baseball is already ahead of the NBA in the US. Question: Why is slow bad? People don't watch baseball to watch constant sprinting and jumping. I understand the slowness being a turn off when pitchers are sitting there for a useless number of seconds, but baseball played "fast" as in pitchers taking minimal time has an enjoyable pace.

    Baseball is actually one of the most dynamic sports. One way to score? What? First off, a single at bat can have as many as 4 different "point values" from a solo homerun to a grandslam depending on the baserunner situation. You can bring runners home in a numerous variety of ways, from sacrifice flies, bunts, contact plays, double steals, etc. In any given at bat, the odds are constantly in flux as the count changes with every pitch. You also never know how an at bat will play out. A first pitch homerun has an entirely different "dynamic" than a player battling back from an 0-2 count, fouling off 4 payoff pitches, and then homering.

    What also, theoretically, allows baseball to have infinite variation is that there is no clock and the ball doesn't change hands after possession. This gives baseball the greatest butterfly effect in all of sports. A missed inch on a pitch that would've gotten a team out of inning can snowball into 3, 4, 5, etc, etc, runs in the inning. This effect doesn't happen in other team sports because the scoring team has to concede the ball back to their opponent and/or play is reset. You can't predict how an inning will unfold. I've seen perfectly pitched innings (9 pitches for 3 outs) to 10 run innings. You can predict how a basketball possession will unfold. They either score 1 to 4 points or don't score.

    The most unexpected things in American sports have happened in baseball. The 7th inning from the 2015 ALDS alone was the wildest sequence of events I've seen in a sporting event in the past decade.

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    Baseball is already ahead of the NBA in the US. Question: Why is slow bad? People don't watch baseball to watch constant sprinting and jumping. I understand the slowness being a turn off when pitchers are sitting there for a useless number of seconds, but baseball played "fast" as in pitchers taking minimal time has an enjoyable pace.

    Baseball is actually one of the most dynamic sports. One way to score? What? First off, a single at bat can have as many as 4 different "point values" from a solo homerun to a grandslam depending on the baserunner situation. You can bring runners home in a numerous variety of ways, from sacrifice flies, bunts, contact plays, double steals, etc. In any given at bat, the odds are constantly in flux as the count changes with every pitch. You also never know how an at bat will play out. A first pitch homerun has an entirely different "dynamic" than a player battling back from an 0-2 count, fouling off 4 payoff pitches, and then homering.

    What also, theoretically, allows baseball to have infinite variation is that there is no clock and the ball doesn't change hands after possession. This gives baseball the greatest butterfly effect in all of sports. A missed inch on a pitch that would've gotten a team out of inning can snowball into 3, 4, 5, etc, etc, runs in the inning. This effect doesn't happen in other team sports because the scoring team has to concede the ball back to their opponent and/or play is reset. You can't predict how an inning will unfold. I've seen perfectly pitched innings (9 pitches for 3 outs) to 10 run innings. You can predict how a basketball possession will unfold. They either score 1 to 4 points or don't score.

    The most unexpected things in American sports have happened in baseball. The 7th inning from the 2015 ALDS alone was the wildest sequence of events I've seen in a sporting event in the past decade.
    Basbeall is pretty much the least dynamic of all team sports and again its slow.

    There is not a whole lot of variety in action. In all team sports, ball can swing side to side, they can attack differently and defend diferrently.

    Sorry bro.

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    It's cute that Lakers fans are outraged by this move now that they got LeBron and feel compe ive..they loved cheering for Durant and the Warriors the past 2 seasons
    I would die laughing if the Spurs gifted Kawhi to the Dubs for Iguodala just to hear the complaints from LA. And Iggy would still be better than taking the Lakers crap, so win/win.

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    It's cute that Lakers fans are outraged by this move now that they got LeBron and feel compe ive..they loved cheering for Durant and the Warriors the past 2 seasons
    they had about 24 hours of "You! Give me your star player." before Bob Meyers slapped them back into reality and woke up to Rajon Rondo

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    they had about 24 hours of "You! Give me your star player." before Bob Meyers slapped them back into reality and woke up to Rajon Rondo
    reminds me of Mitch making us all pay for basketball reasons..

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    Basbeall is pretty much the least dynamic of all team sports and again its slow.

    There is not a whole lot of variety in action. In all team sports, ball can swing side to side, they can attack differently and defend diferrently.

    Sorry bro.
    There's more to "dynamism" than the ball just moving around a lot. Your definition is very narrow. Baseball is a different sport than a goal sport, but the fact the ball doesn't get passed around doesn't make it any less dynamic. Baseball has the widest scoring variation in sports. The average runs per game per team is around 4.5. We routinely see 8, 9, 10 runs from teams and sometimes as much as 30 on rare occasions. What other sport can potentially exceed its scoring average by a factor of 8 (at the highest levels)? This would be like a basketball team scoring 800 points. Or an NFL team scoring 160 points.

    Baseball doesn't allow for multiple attacks and defends? No 95mph fastball is the same. One could look entirely different from another and have a totally different "theory" in execution behind it. Those two fastballs can be as different between a Box-and-1 defense and man defense. You can position the defense on a baseball field any way you like.

    And again, why is slow bad?

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