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    the snowflake delusions are reaching nuclear levels

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    It's already been on the other foot.

    Multiple times.
    I mentioned a couple of them. Some people seem to need reminding.

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    the snowflake delusions are reaching nuclear levels
    Hey- did you wipe your feet before entering this thread?
    You better respect this house of Mueller, s bag!

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    I mentioned a couple of them. Some people seem to need reminding.
    OTOH, there's no way a Starr investigation goes on for as long as it did where it did were he Special and not Independent Counsel. That's half the reason the Independent Counsel statute was allowed to expire.

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    I'm sure he didn't want Baylor to go through all the rape scandals either.
    Repug Rape Caucus is sure none of the were "legitimate rape"

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    I bet you're OK with FBI encouraging/baiting/stinging otherwise innocent Muslims?

    Who has Mueller entrapped / baited?
    What have I ever said that would make you think I am OK with that? Or guilty Muslims for that matter?

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    OTOH, there's no way a Starr investigation goes on for as long as it did where it did were he Special and not Independent Counsel. That's half the reason the Independent Counsel statute was allowed to expire.
    why not?

    honest question, I'm not familiar with the respective laws.

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    Mueller is working from the outside of the criminal circle inwards. Russian hackers> data analytics> russian bots> trump campaign associates having contacts with russians> obstruction of justice to derail the investigation>

    leading to Trumps inner circle of criminals.

    Conspiracy to defraud the USA - has already been tried and convicted. If Trump knew - and when he knew of it - becomes an indictment (all evidence points to him knowing and conspiring - public evidence) =
    then Trump will also be in for a Conspiracy to Defraud the USA - in collusion with Russia/Putin.
    Other crimes "that arise" from the investigation like:
    money laundering, tax evasion, tax fraud, campaign finance felony violations, illicit payoffs, etc..
    will just be a result of a careless criminal deciding to run for the highest office in the land when he knew better than anyone that he had a warehouse/closet full of bodies.
    Let's wait until the charges he's going to bring are brought. If they have something to do with Russian Collusion then, great (although the tactic of investigating/threatening everyone around a target to oblige cooperation still has a distinctly gestapo feel to it - Dershowitz is all over the place talking about this), but if they have nothing to do with collusion and are all unrelated "hey, look what we found" revelations, then I think we are going down a road that is less free than our country purports to be. Ultimately, I'll be OK because I don't break laws. Protections are only for the criminals.

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    you mean the behavior where this prosecutor hasn't said word one? you mean prosecutor that never responds to trumps attacks?


    what do you mean?
    I mean the behavior I talk about in the post preceding this; squeezing and threatening everyone around a target to get said target - and then "getting" that target for whatever you find. , I'd much rather Trump get voted out overwhelmingly in 2020; then he doesn't get to be a martyr.

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    why not?

    honest question, I'm not familiar with the respective laws.
    As I understand it, Special Counsel's investigation is directed by the AG or this time the Deputy due to recusal. The AG could only remove an Independent Counsel for "good cause" or a panel of DC Court of Appeals judges could declare the investigation finished. It's difficult to see Janet Reno's allowing Whitewater to go into blue dress territory.

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    , I'd much rather Trump get voted out overwhelmingly in 2020; then he doesn't get to be a martyr.
    +1

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    If enough Repugs vote to impeach/convict Trash, he won't be a martyr, except to his own ego, because other he has no cause to die for.

    Of course, Trash fellators are so ing ignorant, stupid, tribal that they would act like Trash was martyr. So all those people.

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    Let's wait until the charges he's going to bring are brought. If they have something to do with Russian Collusion then, great (although the tactic of investigating/threatening everyone around a target to oblige cooperation still has a distinctly gestapo feel to it - Dershowitz is all over the place talking about this), but if they have nothing to do with collusion and are all unrelated "hey, look what we found" revelations, then I think we are going down a road that is less free than our country purports to be. Ultimately, I'll be OK because I don't break laws. Protections are only for the criminals.

    How do you think every sting of organized crime is investigated (mafia)?
    Exactly this way. You have reasonable proof - then nab the perimeter small time crooks and work your way inward until you get all the corroborating evidence on the boss.

    Did you care about this when Ken Starr investigated Clinton for real estate Arkansas land deals - and ended up making it about blow jobs - which led Clinton to lie under oath?

    It was good enough then - it is good enough now - except Trump sold out his country and then tried to cover it up. His closet full of skeletons is just collateral damage. He could have tried being honest. He could have obeyed the law. Aren't repugs furious with "illegals" who they say break the law by coming here? "Hey- what part of being here illegally don't you understand?"

    So- Trump - breaks the law - nothing else matters - prosecute his orange ass.

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    I mean the behavior I talk about in the post preceding this; squeezing and threatening everyone around a target to get said target - and then "getting" that target for whatever you find. , I'd much rather Trump get voted out overwhelmingly in 2020; then he doesn't get to be a martyr.
    maybe they're really ty criminals and the instant bob started digging, the floodgates open.

    but you don't think prosecuting criminals is a good idea? not this time?



    ive said from the beginning, follow the money.

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    you see, you can't launder money without help.

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    As I understand it, Special Counsel's investigation is directed by the AG or this time the Deputy due to recusal. The AG could only remove an Independent Counsel for "good cause" or a panel of DC Court of Appeals judges could declare the investigation finished. It's difficult to see Janet Reno's allowing Whitewater to go into blue dress territory.
    thanks

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    Just paying my respects to the Great Mueller.


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    In San Antonio and everywhere else- abuelitas are lighting candles in honor of the great Mueller.
    Respect.

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    This thread shall live on with much appreciation

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    Schiff has a woody for Trump

    Evidence in plain sight' of Trump collusion with Russia, Schiff says
    Source: Politico
    By PATRICK TEMPLE-WEST 02/17/2019 10:55 AM EST


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    In an interview on CNN, Schiff rejected Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr’s statements from earlier this month, in which Burr said evidence shows no collusion by the Trump campaign and Russia.

    “Chairman Burr must have a different word for it,” Schiff told host Dana Bash on “State of the Union,” pointing to communications between Russia and Donald Trump Jr. and former Trump aides George Papadopoulos and Michael Flynn.

    “You can see evidence in plain sight on the issue of collusion, pretty compelling evidence,” Schiff said, adding, “There is a difference between seeing evidence of collusion and being able to prove a criminal conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt.”


    Schiff said special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on potential Russian government meddling in the 2016 election might not be the final word on the matter.
    Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...schiff-1173434

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    This thread shall live on with much appreciation
    By the other side.

    Until people read it, or read the redacted version.

    Then the lit crit starts all over again.

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