Blow it up

[SouthTexasRancher]

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This team positively sucks. It is just not the level of talent as much as it is the type of talent..

It is almost as if somebody told them to go corner the market on career losers (or perceived ones): who would've thought- only 5 years after the peak of the Beautiful Game--- the Top 3-4 best players on our roster would be Aldridge, Derozan and Rudy Gay?

You can afford to have one of that archetype in in a secondary or tertiary role, but three is total overkill..

Short of a sweep at the hands of the Nuggets (not the Dubs), I don't expect any sort of long, hard look at the roster from this stale front office..They will chalk it up to Murray's torn ACL and will move on..

Spot on...!

[NASpurs]

Damn, some powerful atomic truth nukes in the last couple of pages in this thread.

[jjktkk]

You should just start every post with that.

Nobody said anything about a ing guarantee, you twit. There are no guarantees. Except I can guarantee you that if the team doesn't have enough talent, it isn't going to contend for a championship.

No dumbass. Who knew that Zeus was so schooled in building a NBA champion. The problem with your idea, is PATFO does not want rebuild, rather add earound LA and DeRozan.

Tanking meant a LOT more than just losing games. The point was that they would have gotten rid of some players, rather than overpaying them. That means that for a year, they would have been playing some younger, lesser-experienced players. That would have cleared cap space, and at the same time it would have given those young players some valuable floor time against top-level compe ion.

I agree with overpaying veteran players. I hated the Gasol contract and, to a lesser extinct, the Mills contract. But Pop did play "lesser experienced players" in Pertle and D. White. and if D. Murray hadn't of torn his ACL, he would of played as well, so I don't know what the you're trying to imply there. [/QUOTE]

It would have meant getting a high enough draft pick to pick up a legitimate impact player. Not guaranteeing a generational talent like Tim, but someone who has more skills and upside than White and Murray. Those guys are very good - for late draft picks. But nobody has the same expectation for them that they would have for, say, a Top 3 pick.

It would have meant having some experienced young players on cheap contracts, and enough cap space to pay for some really good FA's. Instead, this team is handcuffed by the cap, and has a number of young guys who are going to have to get paid to stay. Which will put the team back into cap jail. It's about timing and roster construction. If you think it's just about losing some games, why... oh never mind. I already know the answer.

I'm shocked that you're not running a NBA team by now. You just drew up the perfect plan to build a NBA team! So all the Spurs need is some "really good FA's" to FINALLY come to S.A. right? Oh boy, I bet these FAs are already forming a line outside R.C.'s door just waiting to sign up! And going by your logic, you think Murray and White "are very good - for late draft picks, but they're still good enough to get "paid"? So you just want to let them leave so you can bring in these "young experienced players" you covet, right? Wow, this is Brilliant! I think I'm conversing with Jerry West Jr. on ST!

[jjktkk]

Everybody knows this team is flawed and is mediocre at best. Obviously the bar is set high for this franchise, as it should be. But after Leonard forced his way out of town, what were you were realistically expecting in one year, a new dynasty? As we know, because of Leonard, PATFO, was forced to scramble around and try to get some sort of value for him in a trade, which they did by trading him to the Raptors. You can hate the trade, but the Spurs did get a very good player in DeRozan and a good, young, developing player in Pertl, plus a 1st round draft pick. Rather you agree or not, PATFO does not want to rebuild, but rather build around LA, and Demar. Right now this team is incomplete., so I'm not expecting much for them in the playoffs. But I am anxious to see what moves they make this Summer, and having a healthy Murray back will do for this team.

[spursistan]

Aldridge and Derozan have missed a total of 6 games all season mostly resting-- which is the least among all West playoffs teams top 2 players combo-- and yet this team is going to barely make the postseason (mostly likley thanks to Lebron injury)..

60 millions for such a low-impact core (in late prime)...

[TimDunkem]

Aldridge and Derozan have missed a total of 6 games all season mostly resting-- which is the least among all West playoffs teams top 2 players combo-- and yet this team is going to barely make the postseason (mostly likley thanks to Lebron injury)..

60 millions for such a low-impact core (in late prime)...

It's really sad how far this franchise has fallen. There was a time when we would laugh at teams like the Raptors (remember that great prime Rudy and DD team?), Trailblazers, and Suns for sporting these types of "stars" and barely making the playoffs.

Now this forum thinks we're just a player away from winning it all with a Gay/DD/LMA core.

[spursistan]

It's really sad how far this franchise has fallen. There was a time when we would laugh at teams like the Raptors (remember that great prime Rudy and DD team?), Trailblazers, and Suns for sporting these types of "stars" and barely making the playoffs.

Now this forum thinks we're just a player away from winning it all with a Gay/DD/LMA core.

I have said in another thread that going from the Beautiful Game to an Aldridge/Derozan/Gay core in space of 5 years is probably the most cruel joke ever played on a franchise ..

Absolutely surreal how the tables have turned for this organization-- and sadly some it is self-inflicted.

[sasaint]

Aldridge and Derozan have missed a total of 6 games all season mostly resting-- which is the least among all West playoffs teams top 2 players combo-- and yet this team is going to barely make the postseason (mostly likley thanks to Lebron injury)..

60 millions for such a low-impact core (in late prime)...

Preach, brother, preach.

[RC_Drunkford]

What this team needs is to get rid of Forbes and Mills. If you play Walker and Murray instead of Mills and Forbes that already improves the team. Spurs have to make a trade. They should take a serious look at this roster in the offseason and change some things, I don't like the idea of this roster coming back with draft picks and Murray added. They gotta do more

[TDomination]

What this team needs is to get rid of Forbes and Mills. If you play Walker and Murray instead of Mills and Forbes that already improves the team. Spurs have to make a trade. They should take a serious look at this roster in the offseason and change some things, I don't like the idea of this roster coming back with draft picks and Murray added. They gotta do more

Its depressing to know that It can be as simple as playing 2 of our own players in front of 2 other players to make us better and yet it won't happen. Not even close.

Our lack of D is the obvious culprit of our putridness. But once again well see patty and Forbes next year.

[TimDunkem]

Its depressing to know that It can be as simple as playing 2 of our own players in front of 2 other players to make us better and yet it won't happen. Not even close.

Our lack of D is the obvious culprit of our putridness. But once again well see patty and Forbes next year.

Hey! It wouldn't be fair to Patty and Forbes!

[sasaint]

I have said in another thread that going from the Beautiful Game to an Aldridge/Derozan/Gay core in space of 5 years is probably the most cruel joke ever played on a franchise ..

Absolutely surreal how the tables have turned for this organization-- and sadly some it is self-inflicted.

Don't omit the role Number 2 played, with his iso game that was inaugurated by Pop. That marked the death of any semblance of the Beautiful Game.

[SouthTexasRancher]

George Hill and Coach Bud with the Bucks.
Danny Green and KaWhitter with the Raptors.
Coach Brett Brown with the 76'ers.
Coach Kerr with the Warriors.

If Danny, KaWhitter were still playing with the Spurs and Dejounte Murray was healthy and Steve Kerr was our head coach and Bud and Brett were Kerr's assistants we would maybe..........damn, the alarm woke me up.

[duncan2k5]

For the long term viability of this team, we need to trade LMA and DDR... Just like the clippers made the right move in trading their stars once they saw that they hit a ceiling with them they would never get past... We will never sniff a finals with these two as our stars, especially given their age compared to the ages of the other stars in the west... Trade now!