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Ha. In San Antonio everything costs 25% as much, right?
Time is the operative factor here. The Cowboys' stadium is scheduled to be completed in 2009.
Should? It will. After all, it's the fairy godmother who apparently is going to foot the bill. No strings attached.They should include professional Cricket, Curling and Lacrosse stadiums into this complex.
Yeah.
Ha. In San Antonio everything costs 25% as much, right?
Time is the operative factor here. The Cowboys' stadium is scheduled to be completed in 2009.
No, but when you have three active limestone quarries within the city...
The bigger and more complex the longer to build. It's that simple.Time is the operative factor here. The Cowboys' stadium is scheduled to be completed in 2009.
My you ARE stupid.
Yes...certain barns may be torn down and new better multipurpose buildings built which could accomodate the rodeo but thay are not gonna tear everything down and build a football stadium. Another small detail you are overlooking is that the Rodeo still has 22 years left on their lease. Those barns or their replacements aren't going anywhere.
Might wanna take it up with HollyHills but you can play the cynical, bitter ahole all you want.
See: Steel, price of.
I'm not saying (even though I did earlier in this thread) they're going to tear down the Freeman and all the Barns. But as the county official said, they're all fair game.
Also, when the companies showed their proposals, the winning team had no Freeman in place.
Whatever..I'm not about to post everything I know in here. Just remember that I am beer drinking and cigar smoking buddies with some of those county officials mentioned in that article and we have been talking about this for five years now. I know exactly what is and isn't on the table and I know what the budget range is.
That's good to know.
Tell your county friends not to tell the Express News everything sans the SBC Center is fair game so it gives you one thing less to about.
I'm wondering what the Marky Mark, Scott, and Stout would have done to themselves if they lived in Oklahoma when Oklahoma City created MAPS and from that proposed and built Bricktown and a 20,000 seat ARENA.
I think they would have hung themselves.
reporter: "Are you going to tear down the Freeman Coliseum?"
county official: "We are just starting the formal planning process and are trying to keep an open mind at this time"
Headline...Coliseum and Barns Fair Game!
Really, that's how it went down... in your head?
writer.
I think since he knows what hes talking about, I would take his word for it.
Chill out.
mybad...Reporters never ask leading questions and sensationalize the answer.
I know the budget.
I know the tenants and what they want.
I know the area under discussion and in general terms what improvements are envisioned.
but don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of your football stadium fantasies.
It may be built but it damn sure won't be built there.
I'm not saying he doesn't.
But the fact that the winning purposal had no Freeman (ie. razed) shows that county officials don't care whether it stands or falls.
It's not. I could care less if the Freeman stands or falls or how many barns get torn down.
Seriously.
Are arguement is empty, lets just end it.
BTW, did you see how much land HollyHills bought?
you aren't getting it. That was a preliminary "talent show" and nothing more. Pie in the sky dreams to show creativity. Neither the Spurs or the Rodeo want that firm and they are the end users that pay the rent. Neither firm has been given budget or design criteria to work with yet.
I know that.
Again, I don't care whether the Freeman stands forever or is razed tommorrow morning.
There's no point in this arguement.
The closest property that big that is even reasonably close is at I-10 and Foster Road about 8 miles from the SBC. Doesn't really affect us.
This is the land they bought:
Looking at your pic, I'd say the cleanup costs from those oil storage tanks are going to be a . And doesn't that include the rail lines?
They can't do anything about the rail lines, they'd have to incorporate it into the design.
That may be the land they want to buy.
So now we've established that TheWriter knows more than CC about the Freeman et al, because TheWriter really loves San Antonio de Bexar and no one else does.
And having 3 quarries in town doesn't mean jack when it comes to the price of a new stadium.
What a provincial tool.
Not to mention a neighborhood where they'd have to get everyone to sell out.
I can think of a variety of things more important to San Antonio than building another ing stadium 12 years after your 1st one opened for business. When you have streets that need to be repaired and schools that are in the ter, building a new NFL stadium is kind of a low priority.
And no private firm is going to build a brand new stadium gratis. They are going to want the city/county to issue the revenue bonds to pay for it, with the city/county picking up any shortfalls on the debt service and the developer getting the equity in the facility. That may sound like a good deal to a young 20 something with a GED but to most people that sounds like a sham.
No, per news outlets, the land they did buy.
Low cost for material.And having 3 quarries in town doesn't mean jack when it comes to the price of a new stadium.
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