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    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
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    Hate to think what it would be like if the Spurs had lost their first game.

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    I said this after the first or second game of the season when Mercer was averaging double figures. Every Spurs fan was ready to name him 6th man of the year.

    Thus the beauty.

    hahaha, okay thats a good call then

    but rasho being a bust? benching manu? did you predict rasho to be a spurs bust before we ever announced we were trying to sign him as well?
    did you predict we should bench manu before he even started?

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    Yes.


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    Uh yeah I was. The forum called me out hardcore and said I was crazy.

    Check the archives, kiddo.


    Bro, I called that whole recruiting class a piece of before they got their jersey numbers.

    Give credit where credit is due.


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    I'd much rather waive Heal.
    Was I more right than timvp?

    Who was waved first?


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    Seeing that the Spurs have had pretty good luck in getting players that pay off i'm not worried yet. But I would advise Rasho fans to start cutting the emotional umbilical cord now........................

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    People who say that it's too soon to tell if the Spurs are lowering Nazr's value are missing the point. I've been saying for a long time that this is the game plan going into the season. Game one is just reinforcing my point.
    So your idea is that this conspiracy to lower Nasr's value is so important that Pop begins to berate him from the very first game of the season, not for his play, but simply as part of the masterplan?

    Pop's gonna forget about winning games this year and having a player respond, it's all about having him whipped into line and sitting on the bench so nobody else will pay the going rate for a center the following year and we can then sign him for Rasho money?

    With all the ploys and unfathomable playing time decisions Pop is gonna make this year with all these talented guys on the bench, you're gonna drive yourself crazy with these theories--excuse me, "facts."

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    Seeing that the Spurs have had pretty good luck in getting players that pay off i'm not worried yet. But I would advise Rasho fans to start cutting the emotional umbilical cord now........................
    Sorry, The Spurs aren't even trying to trade Rasho.

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    Sorry, The Spurs aren't even trying to trade Rasho.

    They tried to trade him for the rotting corpse of Tariq Abdul-Wahad's career in August.

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    This is the best take I've heard in a long while, probably because it's at least partly true, or seems true from the outside looking in.

    We'll see as the season goes on. If Nazr becomes more involved and is just getting his ass chewed now because he isn't into the flow of things, that will change in a month or so.

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    Hmmm...one of the big issues of Nazr Mohammed in NY was that he insisted on fasting during Ramadan. For those of you that don't know, that is basically the month of October. Could it be that the "family problems" was a smoke screen for the fact that Nazr was pulling the same again and Pop is still PO'd by it?

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    Hmmm...one of the big issues of Nazr Mohammed in NY was that he insisted on fasting during Ramadan. For those of you that don't know, that is basically the month of October. Could it be that the "family problems" was a smoke screen for the fact that Nazr was pulling the same **** again and Pop is still PO'd by it?
    See SA Express-News article on Nazr. If a player isn't ready Pop won't start him. He'll ramp him up and use him in spots.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28275

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    Hmmm...one of the big issues of Nazr Mohammed in NY was that he insisted on fasting during Ramadan. For those of you that don't know, that is basically the month of October. Could it be that the "family problems" was a smoke screen for the fact that Nazr was pulling the same again and Pop is still PO'd by it?
    If you pull that "taking Christmas off" again, I'll dock your pay.

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    Hmmm...one of the big issues of Nazr Mohammed in NY was that he insisted on fasting during Ramadan. For those of you that don't know, that is basically the month of October. Could it be that the "family problems" was a smoke screen for the fact that Nazr was pulling the same again and Pop is still PO'd by it?
    Well, this year it coincides with October. Sometimes it comes in February or even April.

    Since Nazr Mohammed is a devout Muslim, of course he's going to "insist" upon observing Ramadan. And if anybody in the Spurs organization gives him any about it, they'll wake up to a nice NBPA greivance and maybe a visit from the EEOC, since they would be violating federal law.

    I remember Hakeem Olajuwon observed Ramadan every year. Seems to be he had a pretty decent career.

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    Hubie Brown said on WFAN New York that the Spurs are starting Rasho as a covert way of showcasing him for a trade and that the Spurs are happy with Mohammed... he just needs to get back into season form.

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    Manufacture your own controversy forum. Yawn.

    Occham's razor needs to be applied to this thread.

    If Nazr sees less playing time this year it's because Pop has more options at center than we've had in a while. Nazr missed a buttload of time in the preseason and came back fasting. Oberto needs to be brought up to speed and his royal serviceableness Rasho needs to get some minutes to hopefully peak some wallowing team into eating his contract.

    Conspiracy theories make good novels, but they're pretty pathetic when applied to real life. Go ahead though and spin the tale. God forbid we should get to enjoy the coming season without somebody ing about something, even if it's an invention of the ers' own minds.

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    I'm afraid more than one theorist in here have to weave their way through stacks of old newpapers at home and have locks on their coffee cans.

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    I think we should give timvp the Malik treatment.

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    Hubie Brown said on WFAN New York that the Spurs are starting Rasho as a covert way of showcasing him for a trade and that the Spurs are happy with Mohammed... he just needs to get back into season form.
    The matter with rasho is that it will be difficult to find a team who can welcome his contract.
    Spurs could sweeten the deal with picks, Beno and/or draft rights for Scola and Javtokas.

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    Excellent idea. Let's ship out more talent.

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    I think It's time we all leave poor Malik alone...

    He's a Knick now! He's moved on... So you all do the same.

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    Hubie Brown said on WFAN New York that the Spurs are starting Rasho as a covert way of showcasing him for a trade and that the Spurs are happy with Mohammed... he just needs to get back into season form.
    Not true. Rasho earned the right to start on opening night-- plain and simple. Let's just say the Spurs views on Rasho and Nazr aren't what they were a few months ago.

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    They tried to trade him for the rotting corpse of Tariq Abdul-Wahad's career in August.
    Last time I checked it is November. Times have changed.

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    I do agree that the Spurs ownership and management will definitely be driven toward making a move in order to get under the cap. Whether that is before the trading deadline or this summer, I'm not sure.

    However, none of this matters because the goal of this season is to REPEAT as NBA CHAMPIONS. Therefore, the Spurs WILL NOT jeporadize the 5 position by having an inferior player on the court. The best player WILL get the minutes.

    I see Nazr eventually moving back into the starting lineup. He's clearly the more active and aggressive player and should continue to do well with more playing time.

    Rasho is simply Rasho. Good in spurts, shoots wells, but still lacks quickness and occasionaly takes mental forays into pansyville.

    Oberto, on the other hand, aint ready to be the starting center. Maybe later this season, but not now.
    Last edited by SenorSpur; 11-04-2005 at 08:54 PM.

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    Last four games, Nazr has played 10, 7, 5 and 6 minutes. Pop has put Nazr in a position to fail. Irregular spot minutes can make any average bigman look horrible. Just ask Malik Rose.

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